Who else is getting into Australia ?

My eyes aren`t painted on.

 

How dare you calling those people scum, people you don't know, their situation you don't know.
You know nothing about them, but you judge them and that on a very low level.
Plain disgusting....

 

I dare to call them scum, because scum is exactly what they are, and scum is exactly what they behave like. They are criminals who engage in “known” criminal activity by engaging the services of criminal people smugglers to bring them over to Australia through the backdoor by paying $10,000 for the privilege.

They are no more escaping persecution and fear for their lives than I’m an Nigerian housewife, and its time some Australians looked at the bigger picture and stopped being such suck-holes to people who don’t deserve our sympathy nor our help.

These scum-bags deceive and lie their bloody heads off when they arrive in Australia regarding their names and their true circumstances for coming here, and that’s evident as to why Captain Emad and his family were allowed into Australia in the first place - all erroneous bull-shyte coming out of their mouths.

How many more of these scum-bags have slipped through the incompetent immigration net due to the lies and deceit of their “real” name and “real” circumstances. I would bet that not one of them is here under a genuine name and genuine circumstance.

How many hundreds of millions have been spend on protection, accommodation, supporting and processing these scummy people, who’s only intent is to pay money to come to Australia through the backdoor, because they know they wouldn’t have a hope in hell if they did it through the proper refugee camps. That’s why they also bypass all the other 7 countries they pass through and not ask for assistance and help, or even apply at Australian embassies in those countries they pass through.

They know their claims for refugee status or asylum would be rejected, so their only alternative is to destroy their original identification and documentation and arrive in Australia without any documentation and seek asylum knowing Australians won’t know who they are, and then they can tell us a pack of lies - tell us anything for that matter.

I want to see all these mongrels sent back to where they came from, and all the money diverted into taking genuine people from refugee camp instead.

I want to see Australia divert this money into taking an extra 5000 refugees from camps instead of squandering it on these scummy boaties who don’t deserve it.

 

You know,
with all this hatred brought against those in most need I often wonder, how your lot arrived?
All those outspoken against boatpeople, how did you arrive in AUS? Or your great great grands?
Not by boat I hope, it would become a double irony....
Cheers bud

 

One massive difference you don't want to entertain for your own reasons and that is; my family did buy a ticket and come to Australia by boat, but they didn't engage in criminal activity by hiring criminal people smugglers and paying them $10,000 to bring them here through the backdoor, not did they have to change their name or their true circumstances for coming here. Nor did they pass through 7 other countries that could have help them and offer them the same assistance that Australia could have, and they certainly didn't have the opportunity of applying at 7 Australians embassaries in 7 different countries before getting here either - not like your boatie mates. Big difference, and no irony is the terms you mean.

 

So which war-torn country did your family flee / come from? How many of your immediate family were murdered, making it imperative for you and the rest of your family to flee?

Oh, wait, no. You had more 'privileges' by virtue of not having had your life under peril and threat when you came here.

I would ship you out of Australia in a nanosecond. Mealy-mouthed, "I'm all right Jack, stuff the rest of you".

 

I'll be the first to chip in $10 towards your boat trip back.

 

LOL,,


I'll pass the hat around. Anything to get this ungrateful prat off our shores.

 

In that regard you haven't got any idea.
If you come from Irak or Afghan or similar places, you have to wait much much longer until you are allowed in. You might be a terrorist, you know......
That compared to white Europeans or Americans, of course.
The tragedy in itself is, that without all those stupid and partly unjustified wars those people mentioned in the first place could stay at home.
Not funny if you have to live in constant fear, but I guess you know it better anyway.

 

There are legitimate reasons for concern regarding our handling of asylum seekers, especially those who arrive by boat. This of course is in no way helped by people like culldav mouthing off hysterically, he just can't seem to help himself.

There is no doubt that these people come from politically unstable countries, and or countries that are experiencing times of crisis, especially war.

That does not negate that this is a criminal enterprise, which prioritises people based on their personal wealth, their willingness to endanger their own lives and to co-operate with a criminal enterprise who deliberately use tactics designed to exploit the UNHCR system. Once you get inside Australian territory, after you have destroyed any ID papers you possessed, it becomes very difficult for our immigration department and ASIO to process the applications, resulting in prolonged waiting times resulting eventually in de-facto refugee status if they are unable to prove that the individual is a citizen of another country.

There's no shortage of legitimate refugees waiting in camps around the world to come to Australia. I do not blame the people who come by boat, and indeed many of them go on to be productive citizens. But I think it undermines the legitimacy our humanitarian immigration program. I don't know why anyone would want the practice to continue, more boat arrivals does not mean a greater refugee intake. And I do not think it's acceptable that refugee status can effectively be bought.

But at the same time, it's wrong to demonise boat arrivals or place the blame on them.

IMO we should be working more closely with the Indonesian police forces to shut down this industry, and of course continue to expand our offshore refugee intake and support and fund the UNHCR. However I think there's some pretty fundamental problems with the whole immigration system world wide that need to be addressed as well, though that's getting off topic.

 

God, what has gone on here? I find once again I could not agree more on this subject.

If Australia actually spent more time and effort (including money) on off shore processing in Indonesia, there would also be far less reason to climb onto one of these boats and risk their lives. But unfortunately it would seem that there is very little incentive for these genuine refugees to actually apply off shore, due entirely the time period it takes to process them. one family I know of has been waiting 5 years for an answer in a country that legally they can not work in and with no known (that I have heard) income. Yet if this family was to board a boat, once arrived, they would have a far less time period to wait.

I agree with you once again Zig, where is the incentive to apply before getting on these boats. That would destroy the people smuggling industry.