Who is Causing the Mutations of COVID?

Quick question for those who say the unvaccinated are at fault for mutated covid variants. Any evidence that the new variant developed due to the unvaccinated?

Seems far more likely to me that it developed in response to the vaccine and those who are vaccinated and yet still developed covid.

The disease had no “incentive” (for lack of a better word) to mutate in a person who had no antibodies. It was highly effective within that population. However, it needed to mutate once it encountered people who had the antibodies from the vaccine as a mutation is the only way it could prolong its life cycle.

Wouldn't you agree?

If so, you vaccinated folks are the ones to blame for mutated covid variants. Not the unvaccinated.

 

Well it's both really. When antibodies develop the virus adapts. Regardless of whether you are vaccinated or not. You can get antibodies from having the virus.

The unvaccinated will likely be blamed for all sorts of stuff until the American people finally tell there's vaccine Karen's to ****.

 

Mutations are just defects caused when the virus replicates - a large number of these defects either cause no harm or they even might make the thing inactive - what we are seeing are the successful mutations


These are variations seen in SARS 1

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc032421



Some of the tracked changes in Covid

https://coronavirusexplained.ukri.org/en/article/und0001/

 

No, you're wrong.

Mechanisms of viral mutation (nih.gov)

 

Polio hasn't mutated, smallpox hasn't mutated....maybe this new "vaccine" methodology ain't gonna be as effective as the old school ways....but the experiment continues, another year will tell more.

 

Yeah I'll take my chances with the minor cold.

 

Can vaccination promote mutations at all?
Theoretically, however, there is the possibility that vaccinations exert an immunological pressure on the virus, says Georg Behrens. "Then it tries to escape this pressure through such a mutation," he said.

That is because the virus is currently encountering populations that are only partially vaccinated. As a result, some people have an immune response, while others still offer the possibility of becoming infected. "That's what the virus loves," said Behrens. "And this can lead to other mutations. This is how the virus trains itself, basically."

 

And from your link:

Additionally, massive numbers of mutations can be introduced by some virus-encoded diversity-generating elements, as well as by host-encoded cytidine/adenine deaminases.

Which is another way to describe a vaccination.

 

You need to read up on natural selection. Mutations are random. The author is speaking casually. Organisms don't train themselves; their survival is dictated by their environment.

 

Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong
I love how people do not bother to do even a cursory google search. Now Smallpox itself was possibly a zoonotic disease since it was so similar to Cowpox

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox

So when it was around there were variants but I suppose it has stopped mutations BECAUSE IT WAS ERADICATED!

As for polio we are still seeing the occasional case due to viral mutation

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsa...ut-polio-was-going-really-well-until-it-wasnt

 

Two hypothesis for mutations.

Pure error. If you have enough to detect it is a variant. If it displays different characteristics it becomes a new strain.

Pressure from select cells. Viruses will mutate if pressure keeps them from replicating. Someone with a bad immune system does not provide that pressure. This hypothesis would apply to the vaccinated or people with very good immune systems.

Keep in mind both are hypothesis.

 

Which does not mean it is a mad scientist with a pipette and a determination to wipe out humanity

 

Mutations can occur for various reasons. Radiation and chemicals being primary.

Do you not see what you're doing? You formed a conclusion, and now you're struggling to back it up. (That's backwards.) Kinda like how you "explain" voter fraud.

It's a good thought process. Very inquisitive. A beneficial quality, to be sure. Seeing it wasted on politics is a shame.

 

We are talking about covid which for the vast majority is a mild flu or nothing at all.

 

i didn’t say it was.
I’m simply pointing out that the unvaccinated being the cause is less likely than the vaccinated.

 

I think I will have to leave this thread before the stupid gets any thicker
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I read another article that says Covid-19 mutates slower than the yearly flu viruses.

 

Leaving with probably the dumbest post yet.

 

That's false. The rate of transmission drops considerably with the vaccine. For a mutation to survive it must be passed to the next generation.

 

Okay let me take a few deep breaths intone the mantra “calm blue ocean” and then you can explain the idiotic Half-arsed “logic” underpinning the twaddle you just posted

 

But but but but states in whiney voice “People are still getting infected”

WAS IT YOU MY FRIEND THE OTHER DAY THAT SAID “THERE IS NOT ENOUGH ROOM IN MY HEAD FOR THE EYE ROLL THIS THREAD DESERVES”.?

I will be charitable and say that maybe the concept of viral load is a difficult one

 

I am no medical expert, so I would defer any and all medical expertise on this COVID subject to the flip flopping master Dr. Fauci.

 

As tested viral load in the infected vaccinated is greater than the unvaccinated.

 

One word: Politics.

Scratch that, we've always had politics.

One word: Trump.

Yep, there's your answer.

 

I can agree with the first part of this post