Who runs the media?

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  1. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Donor

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    Please see my Post # 380

    Additionally, Hitler even honored Jewish WW1 veterans many of whom were already in Palestine:

    "When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers"
    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/.premium-1.602868

    EXCERPT "The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the 100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine."CONTINUED
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and then the Nazis sent Jewish WW1 veterans to Thereisenstadt, to die of starvation and disease.
     
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    Grau Well-Known Member Donor

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    You don't know that. Many Jews were exempt from being sent to the work camps and among those were WW1 Veterans & in many cases, their families.
    Additionally, Buchenwald Commandant, Karl Koch was executed by the SS for killing & torturing prisoners after being tried by Judge Konrad Morgen....why?
     
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    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    Good thread!! I wonder who controls the media. But this is why folks don't trust the media.
     
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    Yes I do as a matter of fact. It was a deliberate descension to the perceived level of the post I was responding to. Its one of the tactics I use when confronting the subjects of my bigotries - treat unto them as they treat unto others.

    then forgive my misperception.
     
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    Oh sorry. You see when Hitler took power there were all kinds of jews in the military. In fact, my grandfather won the Iron Cross in WW1. They were completely purged according to the nuremberg laws of 1935 which also "allowed" special dispensation for certain second degree jews to apply for a legal waiver of the law. they came up with that because there were a whole bunch of real important soliders and nazis that needed an out.

    I'm afraid you are a nazi apologist.
     
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    Oh no, I am well aware of the decadence, corruption and desperation of post ww1. When writing mein kampf, sure hitler expressed his moral outrage about wonton ways, mostly cause he was frustrated by being stuck in prison at the time and could only be intimate with his hand and Rudy his cell mate.

    But if you think some bawdy nightclubs, openly gay people and an uptick in hookers in the economically wasted remains of a once proud and great empire was the cause of nazism then clearly you have the em-PHA-sis on the wrong sy-LAB-le.
     
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    Right, because mother and daughter sex shows, animal orgies, and pedophilia losing its taboo status in Germany's capital had absolutely no effect on whether Germans would support the first person to take a strong stance against these things. I'm sure everyone was very tolerant and progressive on these topics.
     
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    My comment on emphasis was intended to convey that the "pervsion cause" you were championing was way down the list on the causes of nazism's rise. Not that it didn't contribute.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your say-so. I don't agree with it.
     
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    Re: "I'm afraid you are a nazi apologist"
    No, I think what they did was reprehensible. I simply believe that WW2 history has been grossly oversimplified and that the German people have been unfairly demonized for the horrific crimes committed by the many of those throughout Europe who adhered to similar racist ideologies that have plagued Europe for centuries.
    Among other things, racist Nazism was the malevolent key that opened a Pandora's box of murderous persecution.
    Anti Jewish, Gypsy etc hatred was not limited to Germany and with the outbreak of WW2, Jews etc were murdered in many nations and by many ethnic groups simply because they hated the same people persecuted by the hard core Nazis and/or had tribal scores to settle.

    Above all, there's a part of me that likes to play the devil's advocate for the sake of a lively discussion. Just recently I was called a "Hezbollah supporter" even though I would hate to live under Islamic law. I would have equally have hated to live under Nazi law and resisted it as much as any form of racist fascism.
    Bottom line, I hate boredom & you can imagine how boring a discussion / debate thread would be if everyone expressed the same opinion.
     
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    Well, I don't think its been oversimplified. In fact the german people have NOT been unfairly demonized for creating and promoting a demon like hitler and the rest of the german nazi scum that licked his balls. I would agree that self flagellation of third generation removed germans is a tad much but extreme unrelenting vigilance to guard against such amoral hateful lunacy sticking its head out of the cesspit is not.
     
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    Really. Just so we are clear about what we disagree about.

    Are you contending that the reason nazism arose in german was because of post ww1 debauchery in Berlin? Especially since hitler started out in Munich. You do realize the existence of such debauchery was virtually unknown to most germans outside of berlin, don't you?

    Do you actually have a reference to support your thesis, or is this just more National Vanguard common knowledge?
     
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    ALL Jews lost their citizenship and for the most part ALL German Jews were exiled or sent to the death camps and concentration camps.

    your apologizing for the Nazis is sick.
     
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    What's your evidence that "such debauchery was virtually unknown to most germans outside of berlin"?
     
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    The idea that the Jews run the media is so mid 20th Century.

    Why not accuse the Jews of running health care too because there are so many involved.

    Could be the Jews are just better at both. Y'think. And not so good at Basketball. :lol:

    The media is run by "money".
    The monied run the media.

    Channel 9 use to be an independent TV station.
    Today I noticed it is just Channel 7 KABC running the same news programs and cheap shows.
    Since the fifties, we have always had network, 2 CBS, 4 NBC, 7 ABC. Plus independent stations, 5 KTLA (first to put a live broadcast in a helicopter) plus 9, 11 and 13.
    11 has become our Fox channel. I do not know about 13, but I guess only an independent KTLA 5 remains, independent.


    Moi :oldman:

    r > g


    :nana: :flagcanada:
     
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    From what I've read about post WW1 Germany and after talking to Germans who survived post WW1 Germany & the Weimar years, I can understand why any people would be drawn to support a strong & charismatic leader. It's impossible for today's pampered Americans/ Westerners to imagine a life of seemingly endless hyperinflation, starvation, anarchy, unemployment, humiliation etc that made the "Great Depression" look like a picnic.
    At the time & during those conditions Hitler was popular enough to make "Time" magazine's man of the year in America.
    I agree that there's a lesson to be learned & worry about the many people in this country who are so eager to sacrifice freedom for security.
    Yes, it CAN happen here.
     
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    How many here knew before they clicked on the thread that it was going to be an anti-semitic thread by PF's most prolific "racial enthusiast"?
     
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    I'm not apologizing for the Nazis. I'm simply relating historical facts unknown to you & that conflict with your Hollywood indoctrination
     
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    sure you are.

    you are even denying that death camps existed, millions of Jews were killed, and that the Nazis sent Jewish WW1 veterans to their deaths. all you're doing is repeating Neo-Nazi propaganda.
     
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