Why abortion is a good thing

So you don't like it if somebody takes away your choice.

 

Obviously one of them relied on inflammatory rhetoric instead of objective fact, and the other addressed the fact that late term abortion is legal in some cases. In Canada there is no law prohibiting abortion at any time.

Can you find a verifiable case involving a woman who carried a baby for 38 weeks or more and then, without good reason, wanted to get an abortion? Without a good example, I find it difficult to analyze the scenario and decide what strategy I would recommend in that situation.

 

Varies by state but generally it is very difficult after 20 weeks.

 

Gee, you don't even know that and you are discussing abortion!?

Show exactly where Clinton said it was OK to "rip near full term fetuses out of the womb"? WHERE!?

(Uh, just because Trump said she did doesn't mean she did)

Hint: she didn't, only the really gullible believe she did. She didn't.

Ever ask yourself this very pertinent question :

WHY would a woman have an abortion in the last month of pregnancy?

If one uses logic and common sense and facts the answer is : Women don't.

It would be quite stupid to think that women would "enjoy" 9 months of pregnancy all for the "fun" of having a late term abortion....and people who think that are not only ignorant of the facts but have a very low opinion of women.

 

Don said "I think it's terrible what Hillary is saying", pick it up at 3:40-

[video=youtube;NfdRmnT0Weo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfdRmnT0Weo[/video]

 

Like I've said before, every case is different, there shouldn't be "one rule applies to all".
Link, pick it up at 3:40-

[video=youtube;NfdRmnT0Weo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfdRmnT0Weo[/video]

 

I don't know anything about the 12-yr-olds case.
As for "unnecessary" I mean for example if a woman finds herself preggers and decides to get rid of it simply because having a baby would be "inconvenient" because it'd restrict her lifestyle having to look after it.

 

DUH! That's what TRUMP said....


AGAIN, you have NO proof that Clinton is for """rip near full term fetuses out of the womb".....



WHERE does CLINTON say it???


You have NO proof Clinton said it....are you so in love with Trump that you blindly believe every word he says !!???

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That may be "unnecessary" to YOU but guess what!!? YOU aren't the pregnant one .....YOU don't get to decide

 

So, you can't back up your claim and are trying to divert. I understand and accept your surrender.

 

Specifically which claim?
For example atheist Dawkins is pro-abortion, but all the Christian churches are not.
Whose side are you on, Dawkins or the churches?

 

Some Christian churches are pro choice.

 

Evasion


Just because a Church says it's anti-abortion that does NOT mean the women who attend don't have abortions.

Just because ONE ONE atheist is for Pro-Choice doesn't mean all atheists are pro-Choice.



Try applying logic......it helps......trust me....

 

Assumes factoids not in evidence!

https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states

54% of women having abortions self identify as Christians.

Given that atheists are only 3% of the population and half of those are probably male they do not account for the other 44%. The odds are there are plenty of Christians who don't want to answer the religious affiliation question on the survey.

 

If the fetus is posing a risk to the health and/or life of the woman then yes, it is both legal and justifiable.

If the fetus is healthy enough to survive it will probably be induced prematurely or delivered via ceasarian.

However when a 3rd term fetus does pose a risk to the health and/or life of the woman it is not uncommon for the fetus to be non viable. One of those reasons can be anencephilia while another can be that the fetus is dying and poisoning the women via the uterus.

These things do happen and yes, they are only 1.3% of all abortiions but what is disingenuously ignored by the religious right is that these were WANTED fetuses. These woman wanted to have babies and had no option but to terminate the pregnancy during the 3rd trimester. These same women usually become pregnant again in the future and successfully give birth. Had they been denied those late term abortions they might be dead themselves or incapable of having another child.

So throwing hissyfits about late term abortions without understanding the actual REASONS for them happening exposes the shallowness of those who oppose women's reproductive rights for religious purposes.

 

Yes, if abortion is advisable on medical grounds the vast majority of christians would agree it's necessary, it's just the minority of fundy crackpots and cultists who wouldn't agree.

 

You :"Yes, if abortion is advisable on medical grounds the vast majority of christians would agree it's necessary,"""

...as does Clinton...

 

↓The moral bankruptcy is strong with this one.↓

 

Even your link shows the Church of England supports abortion under some circumstances. Other churches respect women and their ability to make their own choices.

http://rcrc.org/

RCRC’s Clergy and Laypeople Proudly Support:
Access

Access to comprehensive sexuality education
Planning

Family planning and contraception
Affordability

Affordable child care and health care
Adoption

Support for and access to adoption services
Abortion
Safe, legal abortion services, regardless of income or circumstance

 

When you have to resort to quoting her political opponent, it suggests you could not find an honest quote from Clinton to support your case.

By the way... Did you ever find an example of a women who waited (of her own free will) until the last week of gestation and then requested an abortion for her own convenience? I'm beginning to suspect that is a lie created by pro-life advocates.

 

Whose political opponent? Here's Hillary and Don's abortion argument again for you to see for yourself, Don is against late-term abortions but Hillary is not-

[video=youtube;NfdRmnT0Weo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfdRmnT0Weo[/video]

 

So you and your hero Trump prefer women die rather than have an abortion to save their lives?

I consider that pretty nasty and misogynistic...

Oh, is this another of your "proofs" that because TRUMP said Clinton said something you believe she really said it ? ...and you consider it "proof"....???

 

At what minute mark does she says she's not against them?

 

At 2 mins she says "I will defend women's right to make their own health care decisions"
Don on the other hand says from 3:40 that it's wrong to "rip a baby out of the womb in the 9th month or even the last day"

 

Don't blame her late term abortions are overwhelmingly done for foetal abnormality Would you deny a woman an abortion if she found her baby had no brain?

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Becaus Don is a TWONK of the highest order and does not realise that is pure bunkum

 

You're sure spinning in the wind trying to defend this claptrap ...

You're trying to say that the words of one person """I will defend women's right to make their own health care decisions" are magically transformed to ""rip a baby out of the womb in the 9th month or even the last day" , the words of another person....

With limited knowledge of pregnancy and abortion it will be hard to understand but "babies" are not "ripped from the womb" , certainly not the "last day"..in abortion....and Donald made a fool of himself by displaying his complete ignorance and susceptibility to be influenced by the more ignorant Anti-Choicers.