Why are blatantly racist threads allowed?

You started this meaningless debate. But you couldn't finish what you started. Ignore me or not, that's your choice. Just make your mind up either way!

You shoudl read Iolo's posts and his stalwart defence of awrwly's anti-semitic thread. I linked it. Then you can see what racism really is.

 

One - if you think this site does not censor already - you do not understand the word.

Two - I would FAR rather they let everything go so I could let fly at the individuals who post that tripe. Getting on people like that is one of the things I truly enjoy about chat forums.
I cannot get on their case much in real life because they rarely have the courage to show themselves.

and Three - how hard would it be?

If someone begins a thread outside of the 'Race Relations' section specifically about race...it goes into the 'Race Relations' section.

That seems difficult to you? Interesting.

Seems incredibly straightforward to me.

Like I said - heck - I will handle that part of the 'modding' if they are too busy but wish to instigate the suggestion.

 

I started no intentional debate...that is why I did it in the 'Feedback' section.

I started a thread to make a suggestion to the moderators.

'You should read my post properly and think'


Well...you have a nice day now.

 

because this admin adheres to the constitution. That's what another poster says.

Now why are topics that you consider this or that allowed? Because if that was the criteria for topics there would be none here. Racism is in the eye of the liberal beholder. Besides, the charge of racism will mean nothing very soon because it is thrown around so much.

 

I actually agree with you on what you wrote here. I would prefer zero moderation on race relations threads and all racist threads moved there. Anyone wanting to have a sensible discussion about racism can easily put the others on ignore. And we can really give the neo-Nazis who abuse Jews and other races the sort of unrestrained abuse they deserve so that their efforts to poison this site with their filthy prejudice fail.

This would apply to the Jewbaiting thread I referred to above.

 

Actually the title of the thread is misleading. It implies that racist threads shoudn't be allowed, but when you read the threadstarters posts he is merely proposing that they be put in a certain section, so he is not arguing against freedom of speech at all.

 

Is that like putting those that don't agree with you in a certain place so that he isn't arguing against feedom of speech at all?? That would be convenient wouldn't it?

 

Well, I was not suggesting ZERO moderation on Race Relations threads...but only because I did not want to push my luck...lol.

But I would greatly prefer it that way.

Keep the politeness in the main area.

Let fly in the 'playrooms'.

 

I don't think he deserves a good day. You'll see what I mean about the racist use of 'anti-semitic' to mean 'decent'. I am, and have always been, anti-nazi. I like real Jews.

 

Well, the thread starter (me) originally just wanted to suggest the former.

But then I thought of the latter (moving all race threads to the Race Relations section) as I typed and that became my main 'hope'.


Hey, this is a chat room - not my office.

I off-the-cuff it when I feel like it.

 

I was explaining to the poster that you didn't want to ban racist threads. Is that OK? And I was agreeing with you. Is that allowed?

 

Yes and I was explaining.

I meant it as a joke.

I guess I should have stipulated that.

Sorry.


Hey - you make a post I agree with - I'll let you know.

And the opposite applies as well.

I don't hold grudges...well, I try not to.


I come on here to learn, teach, pass the time and try to 'urinate off' online bullies...in that order.

 

Go and read the thread where you joined in the Jewbaiting. I linked it for you. Having regrets now?

The thread was characterizing Jews, not Zionists, as being EVEN more like Nazis. It's in the title as well as all the arguments put by the Jewbaiting cabal that you joined.

You joined in with the threadstarter.

It's a permanent record. If you didn't want us to know you shouldn't have posted. You sided with the Jewbaiters. It's pretty clear.

I think your last sentence will send a shiver down the spine of many Jews.

 

I hold grudges, against real racists who persist with such filth for example.

But I think my post, whilst being right, was extremely rude and sarcastic and I misread you. I apologize for that rudeness. Sometimes it is appropriate to have a sting in my tone. Not in this case to you.

Start again?

 

Fine with me.

 

Ignorance and stupidity have no color...or boundaries from now one it will be stupid vs smart people. Many will go under. It will not be pretty when anarchy breaks out.

 

They censor personal attacks and crude language. That's pretty simple stuff to pick up. Having to go in and read every thread and post, then determine whether it has racist nuances in it, is entirely different.

There are many threads that delve into race/gender/sexuality issues. I'd venture to say at least 1/3 to 1/2 of all threads in the Current Events/Political Opinion sub-forum ends up in these waters. If something current on military topics come up (Iran for example) it isn't automatically relegated to the military sub-forum. Why should race issues be unique? Seems pretty cut and dry to me.

You were saying these threads should be closed....now your saying you want free reign to go after them? Language is one of the easiest and basic things to censor. When you start censoring content its an entirely different endeavor.

 

I just signed on and have to agree with this. This thread will be moved to that section as it isn't something I consider a hot topic for "Current Events".

As far as the racists examples, it can be anyone who puts down or attacks another race, whether black, white, jew or gentile. We allow free speech but it's the context on how a thread is written. For example: All blacks have a low IQ and don't deserve an education". This is not only considered "racist" but it also falls under the rule of flamebait. It will cause an emotional reaction from many members here.

 

It seems to me, that the people who are the most defensive when called a "racist", tend to be the ones more likely to make veiled racist statements.

Anyone who is comfortable and secure about thier lack of racist thinking is never offended when someone calls them a racist.

 

The OP said BLATANTLY racist threads. If someone particularly someone who is a mod can't spot a BLATANTLY racist thread they need to get off the internet and have their head examined. Every rule has its gray area. A gray area is not a reason not to have a rule.

If anyone can't tell this post is flamebait of zero intellectual worth they need to seek help...

Also I don't think anyone is getting bent out of shape over someone saying something questionable once in a blue moon in the heat of a debate. What the mods need to do is start policing people who have an unrelenting pattern of racist flamebait. There is a contingent that day after day starts race based threads all over the forum. If the mods cracked down on this syndicate it would go a long way towards making the forum readable.

I think I may see what the problem is. PM me and I'll help you out.

 

No thanks. the zionists have murdered some 2,000 children in ten years, as you know (as against 123, before you ask). They manifestly base themselves on German nationalism and actually supported Mussolini (Hitler murdered Jews instead of expelling them to 'Israel' as was his comradely duty, so they went off him): they believe in a Jewish 'race' such as Hitler preached, and like Hitler they drive people out of territories to which their Occupation has no right, as you know. Like Hitler they detest traditional Jewry (which I like) and want to destroy it to be replaced by brainless unintellectual storm-troopers. If you support those swine, what gives you the right to criticise anyone on earth?

 

I don't care what your point is or what your ideology is. If you constantly go Godwin someone is going to come down on you. I do not agree with the creation of Israel nor the treatment of the Palestinian people. That being said you are not going to move all the Jews out of Palestine and you aren't going to expel all the Palestinians. So the answer is to come to a balanced agreement. Constantly calling either side "Nazis" isn't going to solve the problem and is in my opinion unhelpful flamebait. You can discuss crimes against Palestinians without mentioning Hitler. If you continue in your current fashion I foresee many a ban in your future.

 

Adolf Godwin himself said much the same: never blame me! If there are any Jews living in Palestine, fine, and I don't even propose to remove the colonists (what gave you that idea?). I call nazis nazis because they are nazis. Admittedly the whole point of fascism was to defend capitalism, which isn't necessary now, but otherwise the zionist ideolgogy corresponds exactly to the vacant old filth Hitler used. Obviously the settlement of the issue depends on the establishment of a non-racist non-religious state of CallitwhatyouPlease. I am used to nazi bans: my father had the same trouble with the zionists' Great Model and was, I believe, on a (German) nazi death list, but we fought them back then too. I can live through nazi bans: all I care about is stopping them from a new round of death camps in Gaza.

 

Glad to see you have been rumbled again. From another anti-nationalist, like me.

My grandfather was at Cable Street where they smashed the faces of Nazi anti-semitic scum into the pavement. Back then zionism was about kibbutzes and socialism. The mind boggles at your family's political pedigree.

No pasaran!

 

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