Why are racists so afraid of being labled racist?

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  1. Sanskrit

    Sanskrit Well-Known Member

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    In 2014, race-carding and race-baiting is the closest thing we have to McCarthyism, with the difference that it isn't just a few overzealous congressmen, but a whole giant political segment of the population. Race-baiting and race-carding is simply modern day McCarthyism. This thread hammers that fact home over and over.
     
  2. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    North America or South America? The United States of America is made up of many cultures and races, good to see you believe this is the best culture, I was begining to think otherwise for some reason:)
     
  3. OhZone

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    So you are a hater of all who have a different opinion that you do.
    Racists do not always hate.
     
  4. OhZone

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    I have spelled out the reasons that I do not want them here.
    I also said that we have enough problems with our home-grown illiterate poor.
    Do you really think that we need foreign-born illiterate,unskilled, possibly diseased, burdens of poor people? They multiply like flies. I truly hope
    that you are young enough to experience what will become of this country as these races who hate white people become the majority. Enjoy.
     
  5. OhZone

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    So she was a racist...and is now dead and gone, so what does that have to do with the topic of this thread?
     
  6. guttermouth

    guttermouth Banned

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    [video=youtube;r4o4WizW2mQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4o4WizW2mQ[/video]
     
  7. Trinnity

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    If anyone wants to call me a racist, just know it doesn't impress me or intimidate me.
    BUT I will report you for personal attack just the same. Have a nice day.
    Gawd, I love this place.
     
  8. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    I'm a natural born citizen of the United States and I don't have to "prove" that to anyone. If my natural born citizenship is questioned by the government then they have to establish the foundation to question it.

    People that believe the United States should operate like Nazi Germany or the USSR where a person must "show their papers" are advocates of tyranny by government and nothing more.

    It is hypocracy by "conservatives" when they claim to want "small government" while at the same time wanting to impose government tyranny by requiring the People to prove they belong here. A person is "assumed" innocent of any wrong-doing in the United States and only if the government can establish that a possible crime has been committed does it have the "authority" (not the right) to question the person.

    This crap about "assuming a person is guilty of committing a crime" where they have to document that they haven't is straight of the tyrant's handbook. That is the very reason that Republicans OPPOSED a national ID card in the 1960's because back then Republicans opposed the tyranny of government.
     
  9. iamkurtz

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    So you'll be throwing away your driver's license and SS card? Passport? The foundation is simple. Prove you are who you say who you are if you wish to vote.It isn't that hard.
     
  10. AmericanNationalist

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    Back in the 60's, we weren't vulnerable to foreign terrorists, or 11+ million Illegal Aliens. Comparing basic identification to Hitlerism or Stalinism is the fallacy of false equivalency. You're not being logged in data bases, or thrown into concentration camps.

    And while I take the time to dismantle you, authority is derived from rights. You have the right to vote because you are a U.S Citizen. The world cannot vote(or run) candidates of their choice in the U.S.

    A search warrant gives the police the expressed authority to search your home, no warrant, no search(You might want to remember that in case you get caught up in litigation of some sort).

    Anything else I can help clarify for you?
     
  11. Mr Johnson

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    Statistics don't lie, would you want to be labeled a dumb@ss because you want to ignore them?
     
  12. Trinnity

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    I'm someone who doesn't give a crap about the Left's usage of words as weapons.

    Off Topic/Replies to Off Topic removed
     
  13. Pronin24

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    This depends on the age and carrier of the racist. If this is a political carrier, he should be afraid. Racism is bad for business. Some may loose profit or a chance to get promotion, being an open racist. Being an open racist is bad for a teacher or any college worker. Reputation matters to many. This is why racists are in hiding, but some become quite open in forums, posting anonymously all kinds of slurs.
     
  14. Gatewood

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    Ahem! Altogether now . . . and ah-one and ah-two and ah-three . . . "Because it's NEVER WRONG when leftwingers do it!"

    Heh . . . that just never get's old . . . :cool:
     
  15. Shiva_TD

    Shiva_TD Progressive Libertarian Past Donor

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    Let's dismantle this piece by piece.

    A citizen does not have any special "rights" as Inalienable Rights are Inherent in the Person and are completely unrelated to government. Citizens do have "privileges and immunities" (reference 14th Amendment) but no special Rights.

    http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment14/amendment.html

    The US Constitution refers repeatedly to the Right to Vote and if voting is a Right of the Person then our current laws that prohibit voting for resident aliens are arguably an unconstitutional violation of the 9th Amendment that protects the unenumerated Rights of All Persons.

    http://constitution.findlaw.com/amendment9/amendment.html

    George Washington, James Madison, and Thomas Jefferson all argued that, as Jefferson expressed it, a Person had an Inalienable Right of Expatriation (immigration) and assuming this Inalienable Right exists, and logically it does, then our immigration laws that restrict immigration to the United States for peaceful purposes (e.g. work) are also an unconstitutional violation of the 9th Amendment.

    Undocumented aliens were working in the United States in the 1960's and 1970's just like they do today. There was no difference. They came here to work and to make a better life for themselves and their families. The difference is that in the 1960's and 1970's the Republican Party did not have an anti-Hispanic political agenda.

    If we want to address the problem of "terrorists" or "criminals" that would enter the United States for nefarious purposes then we need to differentiate them from those that would come here for peaceful purposes such as work. The most pragmatic way to accomplish this is to allow those that would come here for peaceful purposes to enter legally and prohibit those that would come here for nefarious criminal purposes. Doing this would dramatically reduce the costs and problems related to "illegal" immigration because the Border Patrol and law enforcement would be focused on the "criminals" and not on those that want to work for a living. It's a lot easier and less expensive to defend our borders against a few hundred than it is to defend our borders against a few hundred thousand.

    As noted a "Warrant" is normally required by law enforcement (with certian exceptions) because a person is assumed to be lawful in their actions. This is juxtaposed to the Voter ID laws where the person is assumed to be a criminal without any evidence to support that belief.

    Voter ID laws have absolutely nothing to do with voting by ex-felons, non-citizens, or multiple voting fraud. They only address voter impersonation at the polls which is a non-existant problem in the United States. Not a single election has ever been affected by voter impersonation at the polls. The only reason these laws are being passed is to disenfranchise poor minority voters that are US citizens that have a Right to Vote. Because they target "minorities" (i.e. African-Americans and Hispanices where 25% and 18% respectively don't have valid government ID) they are racist Jim Crow voting laws. These laws are identical in all aspects to the Jim Crow voting laws that existed before the Civil Rights movement of the 1960's.
     
  16. happy fun dude

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    What a racist post!
     
  17. happy fun dude

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    We've got both things going on here... You can't generalize. On the one hand, you do have people who aren't racist being labelled as such e.g. if they argue against affirmative action because equality is more important than diversity (in reality the aa is racist).. Then on the other hand you do get people talking about how they want to get rid of all the Mexicans, legal or not etc.. but will sit there and deny being racist. It's like "I'm not racist, I just hate Mexicans".

    They know they're racist, but somehow if they can trick themselves or others then they feel better and sleep easier? I don't know. It's just a label. Something is what it is regardless what you call it. Kind of like how many pro-choice people will argue the toss about how they say you can't call a fetus a baby.. Like that changes anything.
     
  18. Kurmugeon

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    I agree with all you've said here, but the real core problem isn't about Racism, either the "I just Hate Mexicans" flavor or the Government Institutionalized Racism of AA.

    The Core Problem is the abuse of the majority of the American People's abhorrence of the "I just Hate Mexicans" to allow the rampant and blatant corrupt in Government and Electoral/Public Relations Politics.

    The very fact that the extremely destructive policies of AA Government Institutionalized Racism still exist 35 years after any possible justification for anything like them, is a testimonial to the corrosive and corrupting nature of Race Card Politics.

    Its like have a very well made turbine engine with a broken RPM limiter. It doesn't really matter what fuel is being burned, or what the power take-off shaft is powering, without the feed back and control mechanism, no matter how well built the engine is, without a limit to how fast it turns, it will self destruct!

    America is headed toward fiscal collapse and Civil WAR! Primarily because what should be the people's choice of proper leadership, to guide the actions of our now immense government (IMHO greatly oversized!) has been hijacked by cynical mass manipulation by the Race Card.

    Without the feedback and control mechanism of honest elections, candidate investigation, review and vetting, because of the Race Card Politics, our country is left without the ability to pick the GOOD, Effective, and non-Corrupt leaders.

    If we cannot end the Race Card Politics, they will end U.S!

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  19. Shiva_TD

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    I'm not sure if my edit reflects the actual opinion but it does represent something that needs to be addressed. If I do misrepresent the actual opinion then forgive me and simply accept the issue I choose to address.

    Racism in society relates to invidious discrimination based upon race or ethnic characteristics of the person that adversely effects the people of the United States. It does not refer to preferences that are an attempt to mitigate the effects of invidious discrimination that do not create discrimination. Affirmative Action does provide preferences to mitigate the effects of invidious discrimination but does not create discrimination. AA actually addresses racial, ethnic, and gender discrimination leaving basically "white males" as the remaining group and there is no statistical evidence of invidious discrimination against white males in the United States.

    Those that argue against Affirmative Action resort to anecdotal evidence but the problem is that anedcotal evidence has no meaning. As FactCheck,org likes to point out "The Plural of Anecotal is No Data" and there is no statistical data indicating discrimination agianst white males in the United States. All statistical data reflects "white male preference" in the United States.

    Affirmative Action does not create invidious racial (or gender) discrimination. Affirmative Action mitigates the effects of invidious racial (and gender) discrimination.
     
  20. ErikBEggs

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    Racists in this country are cowards, basically.

    If you are a racist (and we know who you are), just admit it. Nothing bad will happen to you. Your own racism will probably be your undoing in the long run.
     
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    A century ago calling someone a racist would have been a neutral description in this country and two centuries ago it would have been a compliment. The fact that it is now very politically incorrect to be a racist is what creates the behavior commented on in the OP. Attitudes toward racism have changed and have swung almost too far; the true defeat of racism will come when people can react to such behavior with laughter and scorn rather than with stylized outrage.

    As for the case of President Obama, his election and re-election has served to shine some light on the amount of racism against Blacks that still exists in the USA. It is a shame that this fact is being obscured by some on the Left making political capital of racism charges at the drop of the hat, but there have been plenty of racist comments, cartoons and actions trotted out by quite a few Obama-haters. Some people are not racist because they dislike Obama (for his politics) and some people are racist because they dislike Obama (for his race) and some people dislike Obama for his politics and his race.
     
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    Based upon different studies the election of President Obama apparently increased racism in the United States as anti-black racial prejudice has increased and the number of "anti-black race based hate-groups" has increased dramatically. There was apparently a huge racial backlash by "conservatives" because of the election of a liberal black president according to numerous studies conducted between 2008 and 2012. For example measured explicit anti-black racial prejudice by Republicans increased from 71% in 2008 to 79% in 2012.
     
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    I volunteer. Please please attempt this with me. Please. I want you to face your own cowardice and the reality that once you stand in front of me, you'll be fully chicken to lay a hand on me.
     
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    In America, Blacks have never been treated worse than they deserved. You are looking at the treatment alone, without making any effort to see how it was justified. What's more, it's far better than they have always been treated by their own people in Africa.

    You also ignore how Whites, Jews, and coolies were treated all over the world. The hereditary British guillotine-fodder let one third of the Irish simply starve to death. For the myth of White Supremacy when it has always been only Class Supremacy over Whites, read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair. Far worse than the treatment in Uncle Tom's Cabin has been the treatment of Whites by the ruling class, who believe they have inherited superior genes and are a race onto themselves. A race of subhuman predators that must be eliminated from the gene pool.
     
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    I was wrong once when I told someone that I was not infallible. Even though I now realize that I have always been infallible, still I did make that mistake of saying I wasn't. So I now say I'm infallible "from now on."
     

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