Why are we a divided Nation?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Hyde Park 63, Oct 5, 2019.

  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Cops, Firefighters and EMT's get it too. Also anybody that's just been through a big storm or disaster, and very often now have no job or even al place to work, let alone health insurance from their job.

    Mental illness is like any other illness.
     
  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    You don't like numbers that go against you and call them lies. Bye yourself
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    AGAIN with the illegals, and it's very easy not to cover illegals
     
  4. LangleyMan

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    You don't believe Trump?
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Most conservatives wouldn't know Cultural Marxism if Herbert Marcuse ran up and bit them in the ass.
     
  6. LangleyMan

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    Oh, please. :rolleyes:
     
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    Yes, that is half the problem. Lets not pretend that the right is having polite discussions with those who disagree. 2 sides of the same ugly coin.
     
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    Interesting that you would use a thread about why we are divided to take a cheap shot at the other side. Your post is an example of the problem.
     
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    And the result of Obamacare is record profits for the pharm industry, and the highest rate of illness. Poor folks always had access to healthcare through Medicaid/Medical. I grew up a poor folk. Since you support Obamacare, you are not in a position to complain about Trumps abuse of power. The government knows what is best for you. Just accept it.
     
  10. Robert E Allen

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    To some extent.
     
  11. Robert E Allen

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    Most communists want Herbert to bite the. On the ass take a big chunk and distribute it.
     
  12. EarthSky

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    Cultural Marxism was what Anders Breivik was raving about as he mowed down 69 young people at a labour camp in 2011. Also he left a manifesto railing against Muslims and European liberalism.

    I am surprised that right wingers here want to take up Breivik's cause and use the same slogans.
     
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    The same way Migrunt came to his conclusion.
     
  14. Robert E Allen

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    Quit using cultural Marxism and conservatives will stop calling you marxist.

    Fact is the worlds history has gone the way it has because of the hierarchy of competence and not overt racist/sexism.

    America was not built on the backs of southern slaves, it was built on the backs of industrial workers in the north. Agriculture in the south was a failure and built next to nothing.
     
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    I didn't use CM except in response to it being brought up by another poster to describe leftists. And I don't think I am about to not be called a Marxist or Commie on this forum if CM disappears from the lexicon as it should.:)

    The rest of your post is historical fallacy but I will certainly listen and respond if you want to fill out your argument.
     
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    Cultural Marxism will disappear from the lexicon when people's value stops being calculated by the suffering of their ancestors at the hands of white men.

    Fact northern industrialization built America not slave labor in the agriculture industry.
     
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    Obamacare's essential feature is loading on healthcare premiums the cost of tens of millions of poor and/or unhealthy people to rolls of insureds. It doesn't cause higher rates of illness, but it no doubt adds to drug company profits by having more people getting care.
    Some low-income folks make too much to qualify for Medicaid, and then the quality of Medicaid care is often well below what it should be.
    Relevance?
    I favor former Senator Coburn's medical voucher plan, not Obamacare. What I don't support is getting rid of Obamacare until we have a replacement that won't make healthcare unaffordable once again for tens of millions of Americans. Trump's defeated plan did exactly that and had support of less than 20% of Americans.

    I'm concerned Obamacare may be declared unconstitutional and Medicare-for-all may be the only healthcare plan that will have certain SCOTUS support. We could back into Medicare-for-all because Obamacare is wiped away before we can have a national debate about an Obamacare replacement.
    Why I'm in favor of medical vouchers.
     
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    While you have the best of intentions, government involvement in our lives has produced the fattest, sickest population ever. The results speak for themselves. Government interference is the problem; not the solution. So far, the benefits go to the pharm industry and lawyers.
     
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    Insurance companies are ripping you off but you seem to be more upset that some people are getting help with their premiums rather than people getting super rich and insurance companies. Do you think it is fair that a 21-year-old should have to pay Social Security?


    But yet you have no problem with young people subsidizing you. I bet you’re getting Social Security. You’re being subsidized ..but we don’t mind t because we care about all People, not just ourselves
     
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    how has government produced the fattest and sickest people? Maybe we should have government encourage people to smoke because smoking inhibits appetite.Maybe we should pollute the air even more in the sea even more because that’ll make everybody slim and healthy (sarcasm alert)
     
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    Interesting how you ignore the neo-Nazis marching in columbine which is where you heard about anTifa
     
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    Were they neo-Nazis or Klansmen ?

    Klansmen fought against the Nazis and killed more than a few Nazis during WW ll.

    But then again, the Hells Angels were founded by American combat vets who also fought against and killed Nazis but they adopted the swastika because they knew it would scare and pissoff snowflakes.

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    So you think it's Rich being divided against the poor? I would say that's quite preposterous because wait any quality has always existed
     
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    Sorry, not following you. I live in a nation with free education and free healthcare, and our public school teachers are well paid. Our medical professionals determine their own incomes, since they are private practitioners.
     
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    I think that what's causing all this division is the fact that we don't have the same hope for the country. I'm hoping that it becomes more prosperous and people are able to get into more fields of study or more fields of employment. The people who disagree with me or what us to become a socialist dictatorship.

    it used to be that the Republicans and Democrats just had different ideas on how to achieve the same goal. People coming out of poverty greater prosperity for everyone. Now it seems the Democrats don't want that they want socialism. which I interpret to mean they want destruction because that's what socialism leads to.
     

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