Why Are You Against Same Sex Marriage?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by learis, Oct 13, 2015.

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Why Are You Against SSM

  1. Your Religion Says It's Wrong

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    19.2%
  2. Same Sex Couples Are Incapable of Genuinely Loving Each Other

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    7.7%
  3. Allowing SSM Will Lead to Allowing Beastiality, Polygamy, Incest, etc.

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  4. Other

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    65.4%
  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    False, furthermore what is the purpose of a civil union without legal recognition?

    Are infertile people able to procreate, “in principle”? What about elderly people, “in principle”?

    Yes yes, you cannot debate so you instead just dismiss the item. Pretty much waving a white flag there buddy.

    Specifically, what portion of the constitution do you believe they are ignoring considering the arguments made by the Supreme Court?
    Do you feel you are more qualified to understand the constitution than the justices?

    White flag accepted
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Having sex with my wife is an expression of the possibility we might bring forth a miracle in the form of life. It is far deeper than "getting off" Think you confuse the different loves, the carnal from the spiritual. Having sex with somebody is "eros". I heard songs throughout the seventies about love. Very few of them had anything to do with Real Love. Before I decided to follow God, I had sex.....and I Loved it! Now I can see into the past and look into their eyes and wonder had I really considered the spiritual aspect....it could have been a lot different. I could have "known them" without "knowing them sexually". Love has nothing to do with sex. A women and man becoming "one flesh" is far deeper than that.
     
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    Perhaps if your driving/walking practices are conducive to not being hit by a bus you won’t. Evidence suggests that behaving in a predictable manor in relation to traffic along with watchful eye for danger can reduce ones chances of being hit by a bus to near zero.
    Fusion is an understood process and is the process that fuels the sun. By observing the sun’s size we can make estimates on how much fuel it has left. Telling us how long we can expect it to burn. Hint, we’ve got about 5 billion years left on that bad boy.
     
  4. gfm7175

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    They were not forbidden to speak nor were they forbidden to form arguments.

    Yes, they quite literally do (from a legal standpoint). Read the Constitution. I have specifically outlined where they have this power.

    No, that is what YOUR view (and SCOTUS's view) of the Constitution suggests, NOT mine.

    Okay.

    States aren't an Oligarchy either.

    What ruling are you referring to?
     
  5. gfm7175

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    Already addressed.
     
  6. gfm7175

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    No, you have a civil union, as already addressed.
     
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    Already addressed.
     
  8. gfm7175

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    I already countered it.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you pretend to know how much of the sun is fuel? Estimates are like "climate models" an intelligent guess.....that's not science.
     
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    Bulverism is rejecting an argument because a particular person is making the argument.

    Appeal to Authority is claiming that X is true simply because an "expert" said it was true.

    False Authority is when the incorrect authority is being appealed to, as when one appeals to a SCOTUS ruling about the Constitution instead of the Constitution itself.
     
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    only if your wife is in her fertile cycle and only if the two of you are fertile otherwise it's expressing love

    again here you are assuming. Between my partner nut it is far deeper than getting off.
    if love has nothing to do with sex then why do husbands and wives do it?

    If sex is eros then it's eros all the time for everyone no matter what.

    You can't just cherry pick based on assumption and expect to be taken seriously.
     
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    If you addressed it then this is over and there's no need for you to continue to post.

    If you can't further explain then you're finished.
     
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    you don't need to keep repeating this if you don't want to address something in further detail then you are finished here there is no reason to continue posting that you've already addressed something.

    You haven't addressed it thoroughly enough for me to think you have any kind of reasonable position so telling me that you addressed it is of no value.
     
  14. DaveBN

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    That doesn’t line up with the legal definition. I’m sorry, you’re wrong.
     
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    Quote the post.
     
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    We can make estimates based on observations. What portion of god is observable?
     
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    Thanks.
    Are you married?
     
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    Since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have clearly seen, being understood from what has been made so that mankind is without excuse.
     
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    How are you so sure that your version of god is the correct one and not some ancient pagan religion or an obscure Egyptian one?

    You must be pretty sure if you believe your version should be able to write laws that even non-believers must abide by. Right?
     
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    but they were forbidden from having that legally recognized civil union.


    So we didn't have that. it's a lie when you said that they gave it to us they did not they denied it.

    you also have to read the 14th Amendment. A state cannot decide that it's going to discriminate against for instance black people. Even though federal government didn't regulate that until the fourteenth Amendment was ratified.

    that's incorrect the Supreme Court has the ability to interpret law based on the cases that are presented to it that's what its job is. that's not the same thing as an oligarchy dictating what behavior is acceptable based on some of arbitrary notion.

    but they should have the power to deny people in quality I don't know what that would be besides an oligarchy.

    there was quite a few interpreting the Civil Rights act as a right guaranteed by the fourteenth Amendment.

    If you can argue that for People based on race you can argue it for People based on sexual orientation.
     
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    that's not an appeal to authority that's just authority. if that's the case you're appealing to authority by saying procreation of principle is what defines marriage.
    if you take issue with the ruling on the Constitution you have the right to have your grievances redressed. File a case.

    if you're not willing to do that you don't care about this as much as other people do. Therefore your opinion is not really important, not because I say it's not but because you say it's not.

    If you can't argue your position in a way that brings up constitutionality and a violation your position is wrong.
     
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    No it's a marriage there's no such thing as a civil union.

    the court says it's a marriage is recognized legally as a marriage it is a marriage you are wrong.
     
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    So no part of him observable or testable. Understood.
     
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    what about your version? Everyone has their own version, right? So whose do we abide by? The godless?
     
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    You would do well in the Republic of China where the motto seems to be "trust in the elite because there is no God".
     

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