why both moses and jesus christ ain't true.

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  1. polscie

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    a man called moses and a man named jesus christ
    might have existed in the past, but their respective image
    found and illustrated in the book called The Bible are
    purely manufactured and exploited by those who
    seek to rule the world permanently.

    we were once barbaric and existed without any
    social rules and guidance.

    the mighty and the advanced few in the society
    took moses and exploited him and manufactured
    this 10 Commandments of "God".

    with the assistance of this 10 commandments
    social rules got initiated and order begun to take shape.

    the mighty and the organised elite in the society
    took jesus christ and expxloited him and manufactured
    this "son of God" Icon or status in order for the
    masses to worship the context of the formation
    and establishment of a Leader in the society.

    the mighty, advanced and organised elite of the society
    did not make a mistake in doing these 2 actions from
    the book called "The Bible"...they even collect the
    never ending dividends out of it.

    Now the the society in general subscribe to the concept of
    Leadership. The people are less barbaric in a modern type
    of society and their existence and political actions and activities
    are answerable to this 10
    commandments.

    Now there are leaders and law.....
    leader is jc
    law is moses (10 commandments).

    but truly there are no commandments imposed by "GOD".
    truly there is no Jesus Christ who was sent by "GOD".

    moses is a lie
    jesus christ is a lie.


    stephen hawking is stupid in believing in time travel.
     
  2. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    In both cases, I think you're talking about heroes who were crafted on the basis of similar characters from other stories and other cultures. Moses had his antecedents in Babylonian and Sumerian myth, for instance - the name was different but the events similar. Jesus bears striking resemblances to a number of different characters, ranging from the real rebel leader Eleazar ben Simon to his fellow myths Hercules, Osiris and Mitra. These are all sun heroes as well, allegorising at least some aspects of the sun's apparent journey through the zodiac.

    When people today look back and treat these Jewish myths are historical, they're only getting egg on their faces. At least they would be if it weren't so popular to treat these characters as historical. There is still massive cultural momentum favouring the historicity of biblical characters such as these. It represents quite a dragon to slay.
     
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    What a luck that the 20th century is over and we are living now in the 21st century. Neverthelless strong social rules and guidance under Nazis and Commies were as famous as their will to live in peace in harmony with religious people who should do them the favor to live and to die in their concentration camps and gulags.

    http://youtu.be/VRsJlAJvOSM
     
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    Direct question: Are you a Nazi?

    http://youtu.be/rrGQZglZFTo
     
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    I am not a NAZI.
    What is the basis for raising this question?

    This is my principle.
    I do not believe in anything and in anyone.

    We are just an evolving species
    who labels everything we want to,
    in order to serve the interests of the mighty,
    the powerful, the intelligent and the very few.

    We as a species hates the stupid and the moron.


    Stephen Hawking is stupid in believing in TIME TRAVEL.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    I did not know that an english translation of this little film is existing. Very nice, wonderful.

    But the strange thing: Are you a Nazi, Wyrd of Gawd (=¿Würde der Gaudi?)

    Polscier (=¿political science?) described an important part of the ideology of the "Herrenmenschen" of the "Herrenrasse" (¿main men of the main race?) when he said:

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    This is my principle.
    I do not believe in anything and in anyone.

    We are just an evolving species
    who labels everything we want to,
    in order to serve the interests of the mighty,
    the powerful, the intelligent and the very few.

    We as a species hates the stupid and the moron.

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    That's indeed a very interesting definition of "Herrenmensch". The expression "Herrenmensch" is by the way also an analogy to the biological darwinistic expression "Herrentier" (master-animal). The "master-animal" are apes, because the next step from apes leads to human beings. So you can see how the imagination "We are just an evolving species" was realized in the murderous and self-suiciding Nazi-ideology.

    A individuum of a species is by the way not able to evolve ... and evolution is not a plan - evolution is not a way - evolution is not an intention and so on and so on - it's just simple a natural law - if a species has reached the highest level of the mountain of the own possibilities then it goes in all directions down. Not the evolvemnt of a special species is in the center of the evolution - but the evolution of everything is in the center. Evolution is working on all levels the same time the same way. Also in your cells for example. With other words: If I would be an octopus communicating with three of my tentacles then I would be a human being now.

    But back to my question - let me also ask you: Are you a Nazi, Wyrd of the Gawd?

    http://www.youtu.be/yB-zWmu3l5c
     
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    What a nonsense - Nazis are my enemies. Why should I be "somewhere" a Nazi? I interpret your trying to make Nazism to an acceptable phenomenon as a clear "Yes - I am a Nazi". Let me tell you: The Jew Jesus - the Christ - will try to speak one day with you. Don't think he's an idiot.

    http://www.youtu.be/BxeyoZXZHWA
     
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    Jesus vs the Nazis? Sounds epic.
     
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    You are the next antichristian darwinist without any logic in the own thoughts. What has "to try to speak with someone" to do with an epic drama?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrD5zzovDYM
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    As Wyrd has just pointed out, it's more likely to be epic comedy than epic drama :D
     
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    We say in Germany in such cases: "Dear god - throw down brain from heaven - a lot - we need it".

    http://www.youtu.be/5lVTtfiJAo8
     
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    Danke.

    Lieber Gott, wirf Hirn vom Himmel und bedenke alle die...........

    Heute wissen wir aber, dass nur ein Teilchen der Menschheit Hirne haben, was sie an uns alle dann teilen müssen. Diejenige, die einen Hirn vom Himmel zu ihnen geworfen haben, brauchen ja noch viel davon.

    Anyway, Christianity makes for some epic comedy when it's not making for epic tragedy instead.
     
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    am no nazi.
    I guess nazism had its' own ideological belief and time.
    nazism is gone.

    nazism was just an order in the overall
    relationship of the master and the slave.

    master and slave shall always be
    the central task of this evolving species.

    stephen hawking is stupid in believing in time travel.
     
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    Hm

    http://www.youtu.be/82fCcaFpDX0
     
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    "Stephen Hawking is stupid"

    good grief.
     
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    good grief!!!!

    well do you believe in time travel?
    do you really believe time travel is possible and likely?

    do you like to join stephen hawking in his stupidity?


    moses and jesus christ are both lies.
     
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    double clicked.
     
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    Do you have an argument beyond your own incredulity to use against the idea of time travel?

    I personally also think (knowing what I know now, anyway) that time travel is not possible. I don't think we could ever hope to move back through past events of the universe. Time may slow down for the traveler nearing lightspeed as Einstein predicted, but matter can't seem to actually reach or exceed lightspeed, and without exceeding it there is just no way. Anyone who imagines we could is, in my opinion, terribly mistaken about the nature of the universe.

    However, that's my opinion and is informed by little more than my own common sense with a basis in very basic physics.
     
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    I do not believe in anything, I do not believe in anyone.
    This help me think on my own.

    Simply because they are the Einstein or Hawking, it does not mean
    they can simply dictate on me of what to believe in.

    But first, let us try to have an agreement of what time travel is.

    To me time travel as propagated by those believers and initiators is
    that, Man can travel back and forth in time.

    But if one will claim to travel either only to the future or to the past
    then I won't be calling it as a successful time travelling.

    But as Hawking was presenting his belief in time travel..that
    if we can circle the globe 7 times in a second then time travel is
    a success and that Man can see the future.

    But for a second, let us say Man is successful in doing this,
    can Man still, by travelling 7 times around the globe per second
    go back in the past where he wanted to be successfuly,
    and could that past still be there to be found?

    The speed of light is not the doer of an event.
    Man is the doer of an event.
    And we do not travel nor access the speed of light.

    Simply because they can do scientific formula, to me it does not
    mean they are that superior already.

    To think of time travel is to be a complete idiot.




    moses and jesus christ are both lies.
     
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    Yea, but look into relativity and check out the relationship between the speed of light, the passage of time, and ordinary motion. Pretty neat stuff, which is real, and certainly seems to allow for the possibility of time travel.

    No one cares about any of your assertions. Your grammar is poor enough to ruin your credibility even if your assertions weren't completely devoid of supporting evidence or logical demonstrations, which they are. All of these topics you are making assertions about actually make for interesting discussion. So don't be one of the people who everyone else has to tune out because you have nothing substantive to offer on the topic aside from merely insisting that your own views are correct. Any idiot can do that. And, in fact, every idiot I know does.
     

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