Why didn't the Japanese develop a deep-seated hatred against Americans

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  1. LiveUninhibited

    LiveUninhibited Well-Known Member

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    @the OP....Why do they not hate as, as compared to who? Is there some comparison nation that we treated well that still hates us? Maybe Iraq or Afghanistan?
     
  2. Mushroom

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    Funny, you really need to do research.

    The US sent over $25 billion to South Vietnam between 1961 and 1975. That is Billion with a B, and in 1960-s through 70's dollars. In 2004 alone, the US sent over $20 billion to Iraq (total figures since 2003 are over $100 billion). Do I even need to mention the over $120 billlion sent to Afghanistan.

    Wow, when you fail you really fail, don't you? Next time, try a little research, eh?
     
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    [MENTION=20612]Mushroom[/MENTION]

    Irag US spent 3 Trillion, the US nearly bankrupted,
     
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    I am talking about in direct aid to the nation of Iraq. Learn to pay attention and not try to spin everything off into propaganda, will you? Trust me, trying to twist what I say is a fail.
     
  5. Strasser

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    Vietnam bankrupted the Soviets; the Khrushchev/Brezhnev Doctrine failed, and never recovered. The Arab/Israeli wars and their proxy defeats there left them with little credibility with their ME and African clients. So yes, we got something; no Soviet naval base astride the key trade routes and sea lanes in Asia, and a bankrupt SU that collapsed soon after.

    The Iraqis lost their state, not the U.S.. Same for Afghanistan and Viets. We came and went from all of those on our own time and schedules. It's up to the natives to keep what was handed to them.

    The rate at which those gangs kill people, there would indeed more water to go around, to those left alive. This isn't a point.
     
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    I spent 3 years serving in Japan in the US Army, and from what I saw most of the young/middle aged people really don't spend that much time thinking of WW II. The Japanese I met felt shame in what Japan did during the war and sadness around the anniversary of the atomic bombs being dropped, but otherwise it's ancient history. Anyone younger than 55 has only known Japan as a rebuilt first world nation. Also keep in mind that many Japanese love Western culture, so America's coolness often wins out over old grudges.
     
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    It also has to be remembered that the Japanese Culture does not go in for holding grudges. The winner of a conflict was either superior in technology or culture, or the Gods favored them.

    When they entered WWII, they were sure that they were the dominant culture in the Pacific. At the end of the war they learned they were not, so they simply started again, and do not hold anything like revenge in mind. And since the US culture was obviously dominant, they absorbed what they could of it, keeping most of their own culture intact and blending the two.

    I also spent over a year in Japan, and this combination was often strange to see. Advertising signs like "I Feel Coke", and drinks called "Pocari Sweat" in English make little sense, but when looked at through their cultural viewpoint they make perfect sense. Even though most do not "know" english, most Japanese do know our Latin Alphabet, and can say what it says (I never could get down Kanji, and only knew a few of their word symbols).

    However, some things that Japan adopted actually predate WWII. Like Baseball, which they first adopted during the Meiji Restoration, and was a national craze since shortly after WWI.
     
  8. Strasser

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    I have a lot of respect for both Japan and Germany in the way they rebuilt their countries, especially the older generations. I don't particularly care whether anybody likes the U.S. or not, but I'm not sad if they do. Many seem to like America better than most of the millennial ***** who are born and raised here do. For about 75% of the rest of the planet, I hope they're terrified of us.
     
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    They were told that the US were 'demons' who were going to rape and kill them, and that they would have to fight them, or kill themselves rather then suffer at their hands. When they found out the truth, they realized the truth, and being intelligent people focused on the present moment and the future. Perhaps modern Japan went too far and forgot some of its history through this process, but that might be required for a generation of two so that wounds can heal and a nation can again stabilize its new found success with some new appropriate model of culture. Japan has a lot of great history it can draw great modern culture with, and it already does to some extent. Its about getting the right balance I guess.

    Compare that to the MidEast, a lot of those cultures still hang on to wounds at the expense of the present and future for no other reason then they have chosen to make it their identity - a real shame for them and those who get wound up in the mess they make.
     

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