Why Diversity is Killing Us

I did see what you wrote. It was not this.
You are rephrasing my posts our of some panic of self defense. That is why you are all over the place except addressing where I disagreed with you.
I never said you should take responsibility for white behaviour.i said you should acknowledge it. Those are completely different things.
Bur you suggested that if white people acknowledged them, that is a sign of self hatred.
Which if I may say is bollox.

 

I never did not recognize that bad people did something wrong. Keep spinning that lie. I never whitewashed white people whatever that means. Show me the quote. The center piece of your entire point is that I'm an apologist for bad things white people have done in the past and that is not true.

Why does Japan matter? Because you do not give a damn when some other race or ethnicity does horrible things. You are obsessed with white. You don't care about the Uygurs in China or what is going on in Sudan.

Keep spinning the lie that I have excused, ignored or have not recognized atrocities or bad behavior by anybody and I'll just put you on ignore. That is a damn lie.

 

The policies embedded in accepted and functioning cultural assumption propelled white appropriation of other cultures and were shared across the white population as a matter of god given right.
And before you throw another diversion, it was similar to other cultures.
Recognising that is NOT SELF HATRED.

 

Equal in intelligence and ability duh. Stupid people do not oppress smart people duh.

 

You said those who find fault with white people are self hating.
I am saying they are not.
Why can you not grasp that simple point?
All the rest of your fabrications and justifications are just cover under which you try to hide.
BTW you call those who tried to oblitération other cultures as "bad men".
In fact they were the héros of the day and statues put up and national honours given to them.
I would call that evidence that White people were communally responsible.

 

So the influx of different cultures into your own is evidence of their intelligence and ability?

 

You cannot even be honest enough to keep up with your own posts. You did not ask me to "recognize" that people who happened to be white have done bad things in the past to other people. You asked me to take responsibility for it simply because I'm white.

I never failed to recognize or acknowledge that people who happened to be white did bad things keep pushing that lie. I am failing to take responsibility for it because neither I or anybody remotely close to me did any of that.

Your obsession with bad behavior by whites and the absolute lack of concern for slavery going on in the world as we speak is exactly what I'm talking about. You want me to hate myself and my country for the actions of a bunch of racist Europeans and democrats. I will not do that.

 

They are people trying to better themselves. Half the world wants to come here.

Interesting that a country that has allowed 59 million immigrants in over the last 50 years is supposed to be ashamed of itself for not being diverse enough.

 

The post does not meander at all.

Show me the quote where I said criticizing white history is self hate. I never said that. You pushed a lie and now you are trying to soften it.

Again the racialization. "white history". You would never attribute something bad the Japanese or Chinese have done to the entire Asian race. But when white people do something bad it is "white history". There is the proof of self hate.

 

This os the near hysterical post to which I replied.
People are not self hating when they recognise an issue which works against their skin colour or historical culture.
It is just being honest..
It was you BTW who introduced the racial aspect into a discussion...the assumption that black cultures are inferior. The rhetorical question plus examples that disrespect other cultures as a given we all agree about.

Would you PLEASE stop reinterpreting my posts!!
I asked you to ecognise white behaviour not that YOU take responsibility for it.
I will not reply to any more of your hares you keep running.
YOU accused white people of self hate when they recognise white abuse.
I said it isn't self hate. It is honesty.
And I assume I don't have to say it again.

 

DO NOT ASSUME TO KNOW WHAT I WOULD OR WOULD NOT DO.
I have already said many cultures have been equally wrong in their own histoires.
Enough of the misrepresentation and divversions and irrelevancies and strawmanning.

 

But you would never be so moronic as to say that a person living today needs to take responsibility for what people did in the past just because they happen to be the same race right?

My wife is Asian she is from the Philippines. So she should take cultural responsibility for bad things Pol Pot or Mao did? That is exactly what you said to me. You said I should take cultural responsibility for anything bad some white people did a long time ago.

Very very racist by the way. Holding white people to some higher standard.

 

So let's review.

1. Dishonesty. The dishonesty of saying I refused to recognize or acknowledge bad things white people have done in the past. Not true at all. I have not denied anything. Also dishonestly implying that I'm an apologist for things like slavery.

2. Racialization. Demanding I take responsibility for something I had nothing to do with simply because the people who did do bad things just happened to be the same race as me.

3. A higher standard for whites. Very racist. According to the woke other people are expected to do bad things but white people are not. Who cares if the Chinese or Arabs are enslaving people in 2022? White people should have known better 300 years ago!

4. White supremacy. The obsession over white people colonizing, controlling and dominating other cultures.

 

ONLY in the late 60s? I hate to tell ya, there, pardner, but that was over half a century ago, and the people responsible for making those fixes would have been born in the 1900s-1940s and earlier. Half a century for most of us is well more than half of our lives, and for many of us, too many old friends of mine personally, represented more than their entire lives. And I damn near became one of them when I got hurt in 2017.

Do I even need to remind you how long ago slavery itself came to a Constitutional end?

Please don't act as though it's been but a month or two.

 

No one is "replacing" anyone. The message from your initial post is you don't like/fear third world cultures and minorities in general and that is summed up in your belief in "Cultural Marxism".

The right has had a long tradition in paranoid conspiracy theories. They believed commies were everywhere at one time. The list includes Jewish conspiracies like yours; the Elders of Zion, Soros is everywhere. Then there is the Illuminati, Trilateral Commission, Freemasons, Deep State, Qanon...the list is very long.

Why the right-wing's love of paranoid conspiracy theories? My theory is conservatism is based on fear: fear of change, fear of the other outside of their "tribe", fear of a loss of influence or freedom, fear of a breakdown of social hierarchies. When a movement or idea comes around that puts an order to their to their fears and bigotries they will latch on to it without looking at it with a critical eye because it is an emotional attachment.

 

The OP opine hasn't looked deep enough. The root cause is "intolerance".

 

Do you think those fears are unjustified?

 

If that fear is irrational, it is. Since fear is a primal response, it's easy to exploit.

 

Yes, but the question is: Are those fears irrational? They look pretty rational to me.

 

Or is it blind intolerance? If it is, then it's easy to manipulate regardless.

 

Since the beginning of the Republic we described ourselves as the 'melting pot of the world' and saw that as a good thing. From many comes one.

Of late it is seen as a harmful situation.

People are funny....

 

This is such a polite post!!

 

I find it to be a sharply focused intolerance towards bad ideas and destructive policies, like defunding the police. We can see the baleful effects of these policies in real time.

 

Now you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole AKA deflect and pivot. If the fear is irrational, you cannot actually control it unless you are first aware of the intolerance/cause.

 

Yes.
And the central fear is for change.
I suspect this is not only by nurture but by nature. Some people jumping into a swimming pool to find out how deep it is, some fetch à measuring stick.
But there is "the third way"...make an educated guesstimate.
Conservative are exactly that. They take the proven path and are slow to change. So any progress is sloooow.
This is why religious people are attracted to conservatism. It supports their idea that all truth and states of being are locked into thinking 2000 years ago.
It is also why it seems that as you get older, you become more conservative.
Fine except that évents dont wait for them. The world evolves and présents new demands and possibilités. Liberal thought welcome them and the challenge.
Note this is SOCIAL conservatism, not political conservatism. They are not the same thing other than in the same way the moon is related to the earth.