Why do Republicans lobby on behalf of people who live like royalty?

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  1. 557

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    Nice try. The correct answer has already been given and is not included in your multiple choice options.

    Could you be wrong about Rush?
     
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    You picked the terms. The spl picked the terms and compiled the data. I used it because I try to use progressive sources when debating a progressive.

    FYI the spl is as biased and colored by their agenda as Fox. The spl does seem to be somewhat driven by a desire to help people as opposed to Fox though.

    But they have definite value as a resource. It seems we agree on that.
     
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    Oh I guess it’s my imagination that the Republicans voted for actors like Reagan like trump, like Schwarzenegger, like Thompson..like Eastwood.
    You sound pretty dumb when you put down Hollywood but yet you or could you are cajoled by actors.
     
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    The SPL is biased? Oh I keep forgetting it deals with hate groups so anyone who reports them is biased. As i repeat You learn more about a person by the side of the argument he defends .When you compare a legitimate scientific studies with Fox news I know where you’re coming from. Just another guy who trump counts on.
     
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    I don’t really have any problem with what spl does except for its history of mislabeling some innocents as haters. It’s what they don’t do that gives the game away.

    Care to back up your latest assumption about me and knowing where I’m coming from by showing me where I’ve defended racism/white supremacy/nazism anywhere on this forum? Or is it just projecting your hatred of Trump on the closest target whether deserving or not?
     
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    hudson1955 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think you have this wrong as Democrats are the ones with members from Hollywood, sports, and companies that earn billions such as Microsoft, Facebook and so on. That is what you morons don't understand.
     
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    This is what right-wing socialists do.............
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...The answer U gave is only valid if you are Sarah Huckabee Sanders.
    Or maybe U are the next in line for her job.

    In answer to your Rush question...the only thing I said about Rush was that he doesn’t get the credit he deserves.
    U R the one that has assigned him multiple identities such as “cheerleader”, “sportscaster”, “color guy”, “quarterback”, “head coach”, “opportunist”.
    Tell you what. I’ll post the question one more time, just to see if your original answer has evolved any
    since it’s last presentation….

    You’ve recently described Mr Limbaugh as a “cheerleader” or “more like a sportscaster color guy than a player”.
    A short time later, you said… “Sure I could be wrong. Maybe Rush is the head coach or the quarterback not the color guy. As long as the right things get done legally who cares?

    ”What are “the right things” that you are referring to?
    Are “the right things” simply….

    A) Trump’s wall, the government shutdown or other Trump “actions”
    B) Whatever Rush Limbaugh is advocating
    C) Whatever you are advocating
    D) All of the above

    (Feel free to tirade. I'm looking forward to it.)
     
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    Are you telling me my answer is wrong?
     
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    The reason you know that they mislabeled is because they said so. Same with legitimate news sources, when they make an error they acknowledge it ....not like trump.he is held to a lower standard.
    I am not projecting, or maybe I am but I react to extremists that way. Be afraid because you know that pedoohilia will be sanctioned. As I say you learn more about a person by the arguments they defend
     
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    You really don’t think people can figure out on their own when the splc mislables someone without the splc pointing it out? Seriously?

    In what way am I an extremist? Because I support some of Trump’s policies? I supported some of Obama’s policies. Does that make me an extremist? Or is it simply an attack because you don’t have a legitimate argument?
     
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    You are an extremist and that you think in black-and-white. When you say that people on the left are going towards pedophilia being legalized is an example.
    I think it is not of moral character when one likes some things a despicable man does, and overlooks the evil. It is obvious we have different values. As far as SPLC making mistakes yes we sometimes need them to be pointed out. Obviously you must be a sociologist since you can so easily spot these mistakes Maybe Fox news should do that once in a while
     
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    Does it seem inconsistent to call me an extremist for seeing some things in black and white and then paint everything Trump does black because you don’t like him? Are you an extremist? Seems so by your definition.

    What evil have I overlooked in Trump? Was it incorrect for me to overlook the evil in the Obama administration when I approved of certain specific policies? Does that make me immoral?

    I’m not a sociologist. I just prefer to judge policies and ideas on their merit, not the way a political party or group dictate. Doing so makes spotting inconsistencies, omissions, and outright lies much easier.

    Why do you keep referencing Fox News? You hate it and I don’t watch it! :)

    I find it interesting you reference moral character. I find that refreshing. I’m glad some people still see some value in the concept.

    Happy New Year!
     
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    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is a discussion about Political Opinions and Beliefs.
    A discussion is not a contest to determine who is “right” or “wrong”.
    I am only asking you to clarify your statement....

    You’ve recently described Mr Limbaugh as a “cheerleader” or “more like a sportscaster color guy than a player”.
    A short time later, you said… “Sure I could be wrong. Maybe Rush is the head coach or the quarterback not the color guy. As long as the right things get done legally who cares?

    What are “the right things” that you are referring to?
    Are “the right things” simply….

    A) Trump’s wall, the government shutdown or other Trump “actions”
    B) Whatever Rush Limbaugh is advocating
    C) Whatever you are advocating
    D) All of the above
    E) I refuse to answer on the grounds it may incriminate me
    F) I am a politician which gives me the right to give

    a bogus answer that has nothing to do with the question.

    Write-in okay, but at least try this time.
     
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    I don’t really know how to be more clear. My statements are straightforward. If I was as emotionally invested in Rush as you seem to be I suspect I could research the subject and determine whether he’s a color guy or the devil incarnate but like I said, I simply don’t care enough about the issue. I’m much more concerned about applying the tools I’ve already described to more important issues.
    I repeat, the correct conclusion can be reached on most any issue discussed on this forum if one desires it and puts forth the effort.

    Short answer to the question “are the right things simply...” is “no” because it isn’t that simple. Want to hear why?
     
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    Not necessary. Your statements above range from exaggerations to out right lies.

    You've chosen answer "F"

    Congratulations!
     
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    You clearly have no interest in truth or implementing good policy. It was obvious from the start. This has progressed to where I knew it would.

    You don’t even see the irony of operating from the position “right” doesn’t exist or is determined by individuals while implementing a personal attack on someone you think is wrong.

    Thanks for the insults, that is more than I had hoped for in this demonstration.
     
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    The "right" you are talking about, is determined by self-righteous fools.
    I have never "attacked" you. Nor do I wish to "attack" you.
    It is only your lying, deceitful, manipulative ego that I wish to destroy.
    Because that is precisely the cause of the mess we are all in today.
     
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    So the only guy in the debate who admits to being wrong in the past and to the possibility of being wrong in the future is the self righteous fool with an ego that must be destroyed? Because he has a different view of a talk show host?

    If there is no truth how can there be a lie? Can an ego lie? Is it a sentient being capable of deceit through the written word?

    I understand the attraction to a life lived safe from the arduous pursuit of truth. I understand the fear driving the attempted destruction of such an idea.

    But that life has no appeal to me.

    What mess are we all in today?
     
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    I have to admit your writing style has improved considerably.
    I truly appreciate that. I am not accusing you of anything.
    The "self-righteous fools" that I am referring to, is anyone who decides that their way is the right way.
    If the word "right" is used to describe something that is not beneficial to all of humanity, but only to a select few,
    then it is not the "right" thing. It is simply your personal opinion.
    So why do you insist on using the word "right"? Who are you to decide what is right?
    "Can an ego lie?" you say. Lol Of course. Constantly. And they lie mostly to themselves.
    Short while ago, you said..."Thanks for the insults".
    The only thing that can feel "insulted" is an overgrown ego.
     
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    I have tried to keep things simple for you. Obviously you would be the one to determine the “right” writing style!
    I appreciate these little nuggets that demonstrate the failure of your ideas in the real world.

    Um. Ok. You called me a liar.
    Is this theory some kind of moral or humanistic absolute? It doesn’t benefit me so why are you trying to impose it on me? What gives you the right to declare I can’t be right about anything because you fear truth?
    Who are you to deny someone seeking and finding truth? Does your fear of absolutes trump my desire to learn and know?
    I suppose egos murder and drive over the speed limit as well. “No officer, I wasn’t speeding. It was my ego. It will show up in court to defend itself. “
    One chooses whether to feel insulted or offended. I am neither. That is a different subject altogether than the act of calling someone a liar. You are free to do so. I went in to this knowing that was your only option so it’s mildly amusing. As well as being demonstrative of the endpoint of your worldview.
     
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    Lol You are hilarious!
    You actually said "Thank you for the insults" in your last post
    and then in this one you say "One chooses whether to feel insulted or offended. I am neither."
    Your "truth" changes from one post to the next.
    Can you even remember the last time you told the truth?
    Can your ego cause you to commit murder? Damn right it can.
    And if Trump's not careful, his ego is going get us into a war we can't win. Nobody will win.
     
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    You don’t know the difference between things you do and how they affect me? You have to be putting me on.

    Going to dodge the heart of the issue with more deflecting attacks? Can you answer any of my questions?

    Trump? Good grief.
     
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