Why do you think minority groups congregate to the right?

Extremely interested why minorities favor the democrats. Forgive the topic wording. I meant left wing.

 

If you had dark skin where would you feel comfortable.....

 

Ha, not with the republicans. There are two things which I think factor into why Republicans are often called bigots....

- The voters rights act, immigration, and minority suppression. Lets be honest, weed criminalization and the mentioned things were invented to suppress the lower brackets. Why do you think America's minority is also the largest prison demographic. Because crime takes hold in lower class areas, especially weed. Cannabis crimalization is little more than a thinly veiled attempt at keeping blacks and prison, so we can here their artificial racial statistics.

Don't even get me started on GOP gerrymandering/redistricting.

 

In the case of African-Americans, I believe it is a relic of the 1960s: The Big Government policies of the 1960s (and the left is, inherently, congenial to the concept of Big Government) broke the back of Jim Crow; and I believe many African-Americans (mistakenly) concluded from this that Big Government is generally a good thing. (It did work out very well in this one instance; but it would be a severe mistake, I believe, to extrapolate too broadly from this one experience.) And African-Americans who tend center-right (or even hard right), philosophically, are shamed--and even ostracized. The Democratic Party--the party of Big Government--will not easily release individual members of one of its cherished client groups.

As for Latinos, most (according to the polls that I have seen) tend to be fairly conservative as regarding social issues; which is true also of most African-Americans. But as long as many Latinos feel that they are not welcome among Republicans--the (generally) more conservative party--they remain unlikely to embrace it. (Probably some sort of immigration reform would help, in this regard.)

 

Uh, I'm not sure I agree with you there. When you ask a minority group (I live in a melting pot), they ussually rant on gerrymandering, weed criminalization, bigotry, and immigration. Never had I been cited the Civil Rights movement. And no, congressional research service has listed that the majority of Latino's and Africans vote democrat. Along with Jews, homosexuals, arabs, ect.

 

1. Republicans are why the Voting Rights act passed. The bill was cosponsored by a Republican, and the majority of Republicans voted for it. it was Democrats who kept filibustering it. Robert Byrd (lifelong Democrat) and Al Gore Sr both filibustered it. Cannabis criminalization was signed by FDR. So those are irrational reasons to be pro-Democrat.

2. Gerrymandering/redistricting was done in a semi-alliance between civil rights folks and Republicans. The minorities got safe districts. If you will notice, most of the more blatant gerrymandering is done to insure that African-Americans have safe seats. It's their part of the bargain.

None of the poll options come close to my views. They were poorly written, unless you were trying to make the "Republicans are racists" point.

 

Oh, there is no doubt that the great majority of both Latinos and African-Americans--especially the latter--vote Democratic. The fundamental question is why; which is what I had addressed in my previous post.

Probably the reason that gerrymandering is cited with some frequency is the fact that it is currently uncongenial to Democratic interests--Democrats are just as inclined to engage in this sordid practice as Republicans are; but the latter have control of most of the statehouses now, and that is what really matters, in this regard--and those who tend to vote Democratic are, therefore, quite unhappy with the current results.

 

This strikes me as a circular argument: Most people with "dark skin" vote Democratic; predictably enough, then, Democratic conventions have many more people of color than Republican conventions do; therefore, people of color should feel more "comfortable" among Democrats...

 

If a minority visits a site like this, all they have to do is read some of the posts made by our conservative members to see how they view them.

Why would they want to associate with a party that has members who disparage them on a daily basis on IQ, crime, or morality threads?

Would a black feel welcome at a klan rally, or would a Jewish person feel at home at a neo-nazi meeting?

 

That might be true on buses, in government, or in the military, but if private enterprise doesn't like non-whites, it doesn't hire them. Jim Crow is still alive and very well.

 

Both sides engage in gerrymandering, but the republicans have an edge over the democrats. They skip over minority groups, with democratic gerrymandering far less common. I'm not saying if the minorities were with the GOP, that the democrats would not gerrymander though.

I just don't get why the republicans wont let us get rid of it. When around 90% of America wants it gone, the GOP defends it to the death. We all know why though. Without the electoral college and gerrymandering, they lose all their seats in South Carolina,Florida Michigan, ect. I never heard a GOP affiliate deny this. Its true, that they lose the senate, the house, and the presidency without the electoral college/gerrymandering.

This is hostage taking the American people. They are not a majority anymore, as 2/3rds of America affiliates with the left wing. I don't care if they lose the house by abolishing gerrymandering. The democratic process is impeded by it. Everything else in your post is an opinion though. Do not cite it as a fact.

 

The left panders to them with handouts, that's all.

 

Or would be if this was still 1964

As far as the poll goes I voted for "they have common sense" . The right thinks minorities are stupid and makes no secret of that, what with constantly insulting their intelligence with all their smoke and mirrors bull(*)(*)(*)(*) about FRREEEEDOOOMM and Small government when what they actually work for is big government bigotry

 

Gerrymandering produces African-American districts. Look at FL. The most gerrymandered district, which extends as a narrow strip from the Jacksonville area to the Orlando area exists to make sure that an African-American can win the district. Yes, gerrymandering is intended to harm democrats, but due to aberrations from the Voting Rights Act, it usually guarantees that African-Americans will have fair representation.

 

I know both sides engage in it. That was the first thing I said in my quote. Its the fact that it overall, it works for Republicans better than Democrats. I don't see anyone on the right working to abolish it. They say they want it gone, but still, none will stand up and get it gone. They know it will backfire on the party as I explained.

 

And if the GOP courts the white supremacist vote, that just speeds up the process...

 

So white Democrats should be fleeing the party in huge numbers, right? Come on. That's a silly partisan talking point.

To the OP, I think it's a myriad of factors. For starters, there is a pr game that has structured it such. "the party of old white men" and what not. The GOP has long been on the losing side of that, and they haven't done a very good job of reaching out to minorities. This is largely because they haven't tried! It is primarily necessity that causes a party to reach out. After the evangelical influence in the 2000 and 2004 elections, the Democrats started listening. In the 2006 and 2008 elections they ran a lot more blue dogs, the number of blue dogs (this is from memory - I may be mistaken) more than doubled. You also saw Obama, who few think is really a devout kind of guy, use a lot of God rhetoric, which is actually the biggest thing that placates evangelicals [super silly, but so far as I can tell that's actually largely true]. He even changed his position on gay marriage for the 2008 election to placate evangelicals.

So it's not as if the GOP is the only party that's ever had to adjust. The "Moral Majority" has been broken up simply by answering their most base appeals (though he's obviously switched his view on gay marriage, he still uses a lot of the God rhetoric). The Democrats sort of had to - and now the GOP is at the point, or at the very least nearing the point, where it will have to reach out to minority voters.

btw, YOUR POLL OPTIONS ARE LOADED AND DISHONEST!

 

the left courts minorities feeding them bovine excrement, which for whatever reason they gobble up.

 

That was his argument

 

Probably not with the party that fought to keep me enslaved and then formed the Ku Klux Klan when the other side liberated me.

 

I'm glad they kept filibustering it. That was the point I was making. Almost all of America is opposed to at least one element in the bill. What point are you trying to make exactly? As for weed criminalization, it was voted in by Democrats, but is sustained by the GOP.Your argument is irrelevant. The democrats want it gone now, and the present is all that matters in politics. I believe its called political correctness.

Please don't be the 15% that defends gerrymandering. I do not want to hear whatever bull$hit you guys make to say that gerrymandering is good. Its absolutely terrible, and it was abused by both parties to abuse certain minority districts. Both, not just one.

Which option do you want? One that doesn't down the republicans. Its a fact that minorities vote democrat, and that is a pretty well compiled list of reasons why. I personally thought I had to many options.

 

Turn off the television, leave your house, and go actually meet some Republicans in person. You have no clue what you're talking about right now.

 

Why would white Democrats, who are usually highly educated and Liberal, flee the party? The White Racists fled the Democratic Party and found a home in the GOP....but the open minded educated liberals are quite comfortable in a diverse environment.

 

I don't need to talk to republicans. I need to read the budget (For the fifth time), and their platform (For the 20th). I connect the dots, and accuse the integrity of the party as a whole. I have no jerky with regular right affiliates. I am also, displeased with the lack of response you have given in refutation. The argument you made is subjective.

 

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