Why Homosexuality Must NOT Be Recriminalized!

It's actually largely because they were oppressed for so long that people couldn't be bothered to provide comprehensive sexual healthcare.

 

Far more 14 year old girls are raped by heterosexuals ... so we need to outlaw them first, right? Or does your argument fall flat on it's face.

 

By that logic we should criminalize heterosexuality first. Far more pedophiles are heterosexual, STDs are spread by then and they also are the only ones that have unwanted pregnancy.

 

There is no study by percentage of sex criminals by sexual orientation so your argument is based on pure emotion.

Secondly this was about lawfully allowing transgenders into bathrooms that some obviously have used to satisfy their sexual desires by force. Allowing the law to favor this is what led to this girls rape. Therefore they should be outlawed from this again

 

We don’t legally allow pedophiles into bathrooms full of young girls

 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1556756/

The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study

 

Yes you do I've never seen a public bathroom with an officer standing in front of the door requesting criminal history.

 

Are more children raped by men or by trans people?
Should we give men a special bathroom since they cannot be around women or children?

Why are men such predators and what can we do to stop them?

 

They think that anybody who rapes someone the same sex as them openly identifies as gay.

 

I know that’s why I said men, they can’t deflect around that metric.

I don’t have it in me to try and discuss the medical classification and psychological reasoning behind the difference between pedophilia and sexual orientation with another one of these people.

 

I would say don't waste your breath. First and foremost they know better. Second they wish to connect it to homosexuality in order to try and drive home the idea that homosexuality is insidious. It's a false cause. People who haven't spent a lot of time considering sexual orientation tend to think it's a deviation. This appeals to them because it's either one deviation or another. So it's a false cause in order to manipulate the ignorant.

 

What are the odds of a male being rapist based on the whole population vs the odds of an LGBTQ person being a rapist based on their population?

 

About 3% of heterosexuals and about 3% of homosexuals.

 

I haven’t found a study that suggests this. To my knowledge anyway… Can you provide the source?

 

So I'm going to present you with something and you're going to try and debunk it do you really want to believe right?

Let's see.

https://lgbpsychology.org/html/facts_molestation.html

 

That article is humanizing the term pedophile and using it to downplay studies that suggest completely opposite views as yourself. Claiming that not all pedophiles have acted on their desires. Therefore reducing the numbers on the LGTBQ side of the debate.

And no if I am proven wrong I am willing to admit it. This example is obviously very partisan and worked to drive down the statistics in the side they like. It’s hard for me to take this one seriously. But I really don’t have time to read it all right now and I will. Just give me a while. I’m headed out the door to go hunting. I apologize for postponing but I will be back.

 

Numerous non-religious unbiased studies have answered that as closely as they can. It is difficult to obtain exact numbers as the number of LGBT are estimates and increases each year.

According to Jenny, C., Roesler, T.A., & Poyer, K.L. (1994) Áre Children at Risk For Sexual Abuse by Homosexuals?” Pediatrics Vol. 94, No. 1, 41-44:

82% of the suspected perpetrators of child sexual abuse in a study sample were at the time of the offense or had been at some time involved in a heterosexual relationship with a close relative of the child they victimized. In their study sample, researchers found that a child’s risk of being molested by his or her relative’s heterosexual partner was over 100 times greater than their being molested by someone who identifies as being homosexual, lesbian or bisexual (0.7% of the cases).​

I would argue it would be more prudent to eliminate the threat that causes ~82% of these crimes and is easily identifiable vs an invisible group that commits even double their population size at ~18%.

Wouldn’t you?

Now if you try and throw in biased sources that reclassify heterosexual men as homosexuals when they have harmed a prepubescent boy — often also ignoring when they have offended against a prepubescent girl, this number can certainly be skewed to present a certain narrative. I am sure you are not going to do that though.

 

exactly what I expected everything that you disagree with is wrong and evil and promoting some sort of wickedness and therefore invariably wrong that's why I won't be doing any more posting of studies it's worthless you want to believe what you believe regardless of reality it's called the dunning Kruger effect.

but then again that's not possible is it. You cannot be proven wrong because what you believe is correct and you've convinced yourself of this.

so you didn't look at the multiple studies referenced you just read something that you didn't like and therefore it's wrong.

doubtful it goes against what you believe. That's why I normally don't post links nobody reads them anyway they read the headlines.

I would say don't bother nobody comes into this thread with your viewpoint and changes it. That is something that is typically programmed into you and it dates back to when you had a little more neuroplasticity.

I would relish the idea of somebody anybody on any of these forms being open-minded but that's generally not what these forums are for. Best of luck on your hunting trip

 

And it is all red herring. Homosexuality is about orientation, or what you are sexually attracted to. That has nothing to do with gender identity, or which gender you identify as regardless of your sex, which is what the situation you referenced is about. If you can't tell the difference then your comments belong here even less. Furthermore, if you are associating homosexuals with pedophiles, it means that you are out of touch with the majority of the LBGT community. Most will attack a known pedophile as opposed to being one. As to STD's, risky behavior is to blame for that, not orientation. You are using outdated data that was skewed. Homosexuals who are in committed relationships have no more of a chance at getting an STD than heterosexuals in the same situation.

 

That would still then be heterosexual behavior, which means your argument to make homosexual behavior illegal still falls flat.

 

And how is a female pedophile supposed to know if there are young girls in the restroom before they go in? Or male pedophiles know about boys? If the pedophile has only attacked opposite sex children, then do we really care if they go into the restroom of their own sex? You really don't think these things through do you?

 

Look above. Already provided.

 

That is the reality though. Pedophilia is the attraction, the urges that beset the pedophile. A pedophile is a pedophile regardless of whether or not they act upon the urges. Furthermore, if the person they are attracted to is older than about 10 to 13, then they are not a pedophile, but a ****phile or a ephebophile, depending upon the age of the person attracted to. On top of all that, engaging in child sexual assault is not automatically one of these philia's. Keep in mind that rape is usually about power not sexual attraction, so an adult can rape a minor for reasons other than sexual attractions.

It would also reduce the numbers on the cis-hetero side of the debate as well.

Dude, we all have lives outside this site. Hell, I've had to drop out of whole threads because it can be a couple of days before I get back and there is too much to try to catch up to. Notice of extended absence is appreciated, but no need to apologize for it.

 

What a load of tosh.

 

Being reductive is typically a facet of this kind of view point