Why Religion?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by impermanence, Jun 15, 2023.

  1. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    so then God vibrates your brain cells?
     
  2. Pieces of Malarkey

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    God. The Bible says God spoke to Moses.
     
  3. Green Man

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    I do believe that when the bible says the Lord walked the Garden of Eden, that was Jesus. Remember, Jesus says, "Nobody comes to the father except through Me". Also, Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I AM."
     
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    Pieces of Malarkey Well-Known Member

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    Can't say I agree, but can't say why I disagree either.
     
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    Fair enough.
     
  6. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    metaphorically then?
     
  7. Overitall

    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that how sound waves work? Some people learn something new everyday and some don't. You failed to learn anything from what I actually said, and fabricated something up that you obviously didn't learn in biology 101.
     
  8. Kokomojojo

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    so then we are back to God physically vibrating sound waves?
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you trying to waste my time or do you have a point?
     
  10. Kokomojojo

    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    I thought we agreed that God did not physically vibrate the air, how as in by what mechanism did God convey information?
     
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    Overitall Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When did we do that? Quote me.
     
  12. Kokomojojo

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    maybe it was someone else.

    So then you claim God talks to you by vibrating the air

    AFAIK thoughts do not vibrate air.
     
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    The problem is not belief, the problem is an organized institution that uses its power and influence to control people people's lives. Religion is about forcing everyone to believe the same thing under threat of torture and/or death.
     
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    That may be what some religions corrupt into over time but thats not the purpose of religion


    Religion

    is best characterized as the non-empirical homologue of ideological beliefs, by contrast with science or philosophy the cognitive interest is no longer primary, but gives way to the evaluative interest.

    Acceptance of a religious belief is then commitment to its implementation in action in a sense in which acceptance of a philosophical belief is not.

    Or, to put it more accurately a philosophical belief becomes a religious belief insofar as it is made the basis of a commitment in action.

    Religious ideas may be speculative in philosophical sense, but the attitude toward them is not speculative in the sense that well "I wonder if it would make sense to look at it this way?"

    Religious ideas then may be conceived as answers to the 'problems of meaning' in both senses discussed above.

    On the one hand they concern the cognitive definition of the situation for action as a whole, including the cathetic and evaluative levels of interest in the situation.

    This they share with ideological beliefs.

    On the other hand, however, they also must include the problems of 'meaning' in the larger philosophical sense of the meaning of the objects of empirical cognition, of nature, human nature, so the vicissitudes of human life etc from their point of view. durkhiem

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  15. impermanence

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    The Girl Scouts would do the same if they could get away with it. It's the nature of groups.

    Buy those cookies or else!!
     
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    Durkhiem huh? Well, here's another quote about religion by Durkhiem:

    “There are no gospels which are immortal, but neither is there any reason for believing that humanity is incapable of inventing new ones”
     
  17. Kokomojojo

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    I dont know his ocntext but at face value I dont have an issue with that :)
     

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