Why we support President Trump

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Huh? I thought I was responding to the author of the OP. Are participants allowed to have more than one account? Or how would you know what the other poster wants or doesn't want?.
     
  2. Thought Criminal

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    Your false accusations against Trump are the opposite of reality
     
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    Sadly- I have to agree. when the left can turn a blind eye to what we know Hillary did, and yet scream for impeachment or blood over what Trump was accused of that is proving false-
    the balance of justice means nothing in the politics of today. The term "witch hunt" is indeed a valid one.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    What are you talking about? Is there some party on Wednesdays that only the right can attend? I'm not talking about Trump. I'm responding to the OP. Where the poster explains what they want.

    Maybe you should first find out what a post is about before responding to it.
     
  5. bricklayer

    bricklayer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They fear liberty. Liberty is the individual's authority over and responsibility for them self.
    The coming generations equate others having authority over themselves with chaos, and they equate having responsibility for themselves with oppression. The only freedom that they are interested is freedom from liberty.
     
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    Er... OK.
     
  7. Moonglow

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    What tax increase? The one from when the tax decrease ends for civilians.
     
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    There are leftist republicans well imagine that...
     
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  9. TomFitz

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    Since you are making a claim that is clearly false, and you make no attempt whatsoever to refute mine, I'll take that as an acknowledgement of my point.

    When you have something of any substance to respond with, let me know.
     
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    In the past, when we had real men and experience leaders in the White House, instead of a petulant little five year old with no experience of any sort, Presidents took the press in stride.

    That's what competent elected officials do.

    Trump is by far the most thin skinned and petulant man to ever hold the job.

    I have little idea what he think's he's accomplishing, other than trying to intimidate the press (which is his obvious intent), and the fact the he's not used to being held responsible for his action, or used to people actually writing what he says down as it if really mattered.

    In the past, the press loved him because he was just a vest pocket celebrity with a tin plated fake billionaire act that played well on daytime talk TV and in tabloids. There, all he had to do was go out and say something stupid or outrageous. His role was entertainer. Nothing more.

    He isn't used be being held responsible, and he's not used to being in an environment where his self contradictory, false, and generally vulgar outbursts actually got read back to him.

    He hates it.

    So he messages to his base that he is a "victim", and that the press should be callow and adoring, as he expects it to be.

    Oh, and by your standard, the press is now busy "attacking" Beto O'Roarke, Elizabeth Warren, Kamila Harris and the rest.

    But not one of them is whining in front of cameras and tweeting about how they are victims.

    Which makes any of them head and shoulders above the clown in the job now.

    Harry Truman once said of the press, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen".

    Trump is stuck in the kitchen and he can't stand the heat, and he keeps telling us that.

    Trump's tweets are now all but babbling incoherence.

    And you Trumpsters are twisting your necks trying to look the other way.

    George Conway is right, and his wife knows it.
     
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    I know. Your minds are made up, so let's not confuse you with the facts.
     
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    It is difficult for people like us to understand how so many can be totally oblivious to the obvious relationships between responsibility and power over your own life.
    We understand that children do not grasp this, but as you and I become adults, we came to understand that the ability to decide for yourself is the ability to control the consequences or results of the decisions that affect your life. If you do not accept the responsibility, you have no power to control what happens to you- all you can do is complain and feel you are a victim of those who hold that power. You must accept the responsibility, and with that the consequences of your decisions- and though sometimes painful or difficult, those consequences are teaching powerful lessons, and we learn to make better decisions because of them. A wise parent protects his children to a point, but does not shield him from consequences entirely- and less and less as they grow, so by the time they are of adult age, they capable of standing on their own. Sadly, that process has been being diluted now for several decades.

    If you take away the superficial terms and things being used by the democants of today and get down to the core of the new movement- that is what you see; emotional responses as one would expect from children, holding someone else responsible for their lives, thinking that to get something you demand it until somebody gives it to you to make you shut up. I've looked at this from every angle- and I spent quite a bit of time teaching in this subject; critical thinking, self-discipline, mental skills and processes. Actually, if you know what to look for and how to see it, you can quickly identify genuinely responsible people from those who are pretending to be responsible and just have a different view. The pretenders simply don't have access to the logic involved, due to state of mind. By that, I mean a form of development that allow them to understand of a fully mature level as opposed to a juvenile or immature one. They can't do it. In our efforts to make things easier for the next generation, we have made it possible to become a grown-up without actually becoming an adult, a mature man or women.

    And...they want to govern the rest of us.
     
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    Maybe, with any luck, theyll hold their collective breath until they get their way.

    It dawned on me yesterday that current debates are really nothing more than arguments about whose OPINIONS are right and whose OPINIONS are wrong. We no longer debate which health care plan works better or whether solar power really works, or how to improve public education... or anything real. Its all about Democrats whining about the latest thing Trump SAID or how anybody could possibly support the crazy orange man, or how Hillary won the popular vote (yes, really).

    Todays leftists are just one big quivering mass of emotional wrecks. A puppy mill has less whining than this forum. Its ridiculous.

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    So true.

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    If the bill is not renewed, and that's an IF, then the tax rates return to what they were, that is not an 'increase', that is a return to previous rates.

    Nice try, but no.
     
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    Jail time for most within 6 years is the most likely outcome. Sooner if Barr figures out that the cover-up has failed.
    Timing is everything when it comes to punishing organized political crime.
     
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    You are right. I don't find you funny, at all.

    While you ignore the Angifa-terrorists and their violence, and you ignore those like Waters and her calls for harassment, you promote ridiculous about Trump and his supporters.
     
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    One man's "facts" are another man's folly. Call it what you will, we see past your titles.
     
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    That is pure nonsense, and you are making this up. The leadership of the Democratic Party want nothing to do with impeachment.

    You are either not paying attention or you are lying. Which is it?
     
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    I sincerely hope that there are some young men here who read your above post.

    Listen guys, it's just this simple. For every measure of authority there is an equal measure of responsibility. Having authority over yourself, or money, or things, or others, is only limited by the responsibilities you fulfill.

    Responsibility is the ability to respond, but you can't respond to everything. So, inherent in your responsibilities (the things that you have the ability to respond to) is the responsibility to prioritize your responses. To prioritize your responses, you must have ambitions. Contentment without ambition is complacency. To be truly content, you must always have ambitions. Therefore, the normal course of a content life is one that continuously fulfills more and more responsibilities.
     
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    Concerning my two posts. nos. 73 & 74, this was all that was said by Trump supporters.

    That is pretty pathetic. Trump supporters wish to avoid what Trump says and does. Instead, they make up issues that do not exist, and offer glowing generalities about Trump rather than specific statements and decisions he makes.

    One has to wonder when Trump's fans are going to wise up. They really don't like the idiot -- no one can -- but they are reluctant to admit it.
     
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    Yes, the generalizations and theoretical statements are easier to digest than what Trump actually does and says, posts 73 &74.
     
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    There is a lot of folly by Trump, yes?
     
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    If...
     
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