Will China be the #1 superpower soon?

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Will China become the #1 world power?

  1. No. China is not even close to being #1.

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    33.3%
  2. Yes. China could become the #1 world power.

    18 vote(s)
    60.0%
  3. I don't care who the world power is.

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    6.7%
  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    GDP US allies vs China

    (All in trillion )

    US 23+ EU 14 + UK 3.1+ Canada 1.9 + Australia 1.5 + Japan 4.9 = 48.4 Trillion

    VS

    China 17 + Russa 1.7, India 3.1 ( I added this as a game , India will never take Chinese side over US and EU) + Saudi Arabia 1 = 22 Trillion ( smaller then USA GDP)

    American politics needs a boogeyman to rally people, it’s pure hyperbole that China will be superpower.
     
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    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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    I understand Marjorie Taylor Greene’s tweeter feed is without facts. You shouldn’t copy her twitter feed.

    Here are the facts


    After the Midterms, One Party Controls All the Wealthiest Congressional Districts (yahoo.com)
    50 Wealthiest Congressional Districts in the US

    Biden-voting counties equal 70% of America’s economy. What does this mean for the nation’s political-economic divide? (brookings.edu)

    Another Clinton-Trump divide: High-output America vs low-output America (brookings.edu)

    Election 2020: Democratic counties represent 70% of U.S. GDP (cnbc.com)

    America has two economies—and they’re diverging fast (brookings.edu)

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    Underlying these changes have been eye-popping shifts in economic performance. Democratic-voting districts have seen their GDP per seat grow by a third since 2008, from $35.7 billion to $48.5 billion a seat, whereas Republican districts saw their output slightly decline from $33.2 billion to $32.6 billion.

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    seems to me all the "welfare recipients" are republican.
     
  3. fmw

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    Fair point. I accept it.
     
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  4. JohnHamilton

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    All of those statistics only point to the fact that the Democrats control most of the major cities, like New York, Los Angles where a great many wealthy people reside. Of course what would be a high income in most of the rest of the country would barely allow you to get by in New York. So “high incomes” there are deceptive.
     
  5. Endeavor

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    All these statistics shows that people who produce 70% of US GDP vote Democrat. All these statistics shows that Democrat’s policy lift up society and as a result contribute the growth of economy. All these statistics shows that if we invest in society and it’s people , that help to grow the economy and improve socaity.

    On the other hand these statistics show that republican has no policy for 21st century. Their policy is a stalemate at best. Conservative mindset is became a plumber is better then going to university and get an advance education, conservative thinks investing in human is a “weakness”.
     
  6. James California

    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ That is likely true. However both Carter and Clinton stated it was to encourage and grow democracy.
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    " Here's another fine mess you've gotten us into..."
     
  7. JohnHamilton

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    Yep, top down control from the central government is the way go … like it was in the old Soviet Union, Cuba and Venezuela. The guys at the top have all the power and all the wealth. The Clinton and Biden crime families are prime examples. That will be the result your “dream.”
     
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    Many presidents have offered similar reasons. It has never worked. We have never converted a dictatorship to a democracy without the support of the citizens.
     
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    You don’t care about the facts. You just make up your own facts right? You compare Soviet Union authoritarian regime with Clinton / Biden presidential election win? Now I see why it was ok for republican to climb up the Capital Hill to keep Trump in power. Democratically elected leader like Biden and Soviet Union Top down central administrations are all same to you.

    Going back to reality, again you don’t care about the fact, but I will write any way – 70% US GDP reside in region which vote for Democrats. You wouldn’t accept simple math that 70% is greater then 30% but seems like RED state only produce 30% of US GDP and it seems like conservative policy can’t improve those RED State’s economy.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ Exactly. Personally I believe there is always ulterior motive to these actions — as are most "wars" the USA creates.
     
  11. JohnHamilton

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    No, I thought that Trump should have accepted the result. I’m talking about oligarchs taking over the country and leaving us was a dictatorship. Trump was not part of the discussion. You brought him in, not I.

    As for you, I putting you on ignore. Your impolite tone is not worth my while.
     
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  12. Endeavor

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    Yea my charts are very impolite
     
  13. Pycckia

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    Except the wokesters are weakening education. It is appropriate to attack the wokester teachers who are undermining excellence for the sake of equity.

    Professors from prestigious institutes including City University of New York (CUNY), New York University (NYU), and Columbia University have signed an open letter, called K12 Math Matters, after California Mathematics Framework (CMF) eliminated certain courses from the curriculum, especially math-related from grades K to 12. The decision was taken in order to ease out achievement gaps faced by students.

    Calling this "the height of irresponsibility", several professors argued against the new syllabus and stated that curtailing the advanced sections from a subject as significant as math would put American students at a global disadvantage. Despite making the overall syllabus easier, eliminating such essentials would only lead to students finding it more difficult to grasp new concepts when they haven't built a strong foundation with the basics.

    https://meaww.com/california-math-framework-eliminates-fundamental-courses

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    But of course, this is only the opinion of prestigious mathematicians. The woke opininion is the proper one to consider.

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    The US is being flushed down the toilet by the DEI people. Europe is being occupied by Africa without resistence. Who will be able to stand up to China?
     
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    I couldn't live without cheese.
     
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    China is closer to economic collapse than being able to take back Taiwan.
     
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    Could you please elaborate?
     
  18. fmw

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    I believe it was the insulting tone of your post. But you can take that up with Hamilton. Anonymous internet communications have definitely hurt good manners in America.
     
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    I doubt he can. The only thing preventing China from invading Taiwan is the prospect of reprisal. They could do it tomorrow if they chose to do it.
     
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    Do a little research on the Chinese economic situation.
     
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    They can't do it tomorrow, because they would be at war with the US. They are in no shape to have a real war with the US.

    I never suggested that fear of reprisal wasn't a factor.
     
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    Perhaps but that assumes the U.S. would go to war with China over Taiwan. I tend to think we would not. Taiwan is certainly valuable as an ally or at least a friendly business partner. But war with China might trump that. If we represent that reprisal that they fear then that is good. But it won't save Taiwan forever.
     
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    USA should hire some real teachers instead of hiring publicists.

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    I have. I was hoping we could discuss it. I don't see the collapse, I was wondering why you do.
     
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    Did you do a selfie?
     
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