Will Trump Turn On The Entire Country?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by precision, Aug 11, 2019.

  1. Chester_Murphy

    Chester_Murphy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've been 'turned on' by his actions in the face of overwhelming opposition that would crush most other presidents.
     
  2. Collateral Damage

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    Turn that statement to it's true origin.... There are those who believe that if you don't actively 'hate' Trump, say yeah yeah to the resistance, then you are attacked and vilified.

    Trump has a huge ego, I don't think anyone would argue that point. However, that is ALL you are seeing... not what is actually being done, what benefits he has brought to this country. I'm waiting to see exactly how Trump could function, if he attacked everyone who disagreed with him, they way you apparently see it.
     
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    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Trump bum kissers (none around these parts I magnanimously presume) actually bought their Glorious Leader's mindless rejection of conservative, free market economics;

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    "TRADE WARS ARE GOOD,
    AND EASY TO WIN!"
    as readily as they thrilled at his bloating the national debt.

    Maybe, they believe Trump's mutually-assured destruction policy is in retaliation for the messiah's "Chinese hoax" climate change fantasy.
     
  4. MissingMayor

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    Those people aren't President and most people wouldn't vote for them to be President. They would be widely ridiculed.

    So people who believe that, like the Trump supporter in Iowa who had a "colored" person in his dorm in college, are really just delusional.
     
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    "If anyone had doubts that trade was the thing hanging over the market, today seals it," said Bill Stone, chief investment officer with Avalon Investment & Advisory.

    Tariffs on popular consumer goods like clothing, shoes, computers, and cell phones cause higher prices. Even Trump admitted that yesterday. Higher prices cause inflation. Inflation causes less demand. Less demand causes unemployment. Tariffs cause recession, Econ 101.

    When Americans suffer investment losses it causes permanent loss of principle, fourth grade math. Millions of Americans permanently lost more of their principle in investment accounts today.

    As things stand now, the Dow has lost over 575 points, the Nasdaq over 200 points, and the S&P over 65 points. The reason: Stocks plunged on Wednesday, giving back Tuesday’s solid gains, after the U.S. bond market flashed a troubling signal about the U.S. economy, a recession warning.

    There have been five such warnings of the 2-year and 10-year yields since 1978 and all were precursors to a recession.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/14/stock-markets-wall-street-in-focus-amid-earnings-economic-data.html

    Today, the Dow is at 25,690. On March 15, the Dow was 25,440. Because of Trump's trade war with China, the market has been treading water for five months. https://www.zacks.com/stock/news/355019/stock-market-news-for-feb-15-2019

    I have been a student of current political history for over a half century, and I am a retired columnist. Never in my 50 years have I seen a U.S. President repeatedly harm our economy and cause investment losses. The current President is doing that very thing. The past three weeks prove it.

    We are reminded that Trump was Putin's personal choice to become our President.
     
  6. Collateral Damage

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    Funny that, they aren't ridiculed, they are applauded and made heros.

    I have no idea who you refer to. I do know that most older generations, referred to Blacks as 'colored'.
     
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    Trump is winning; America is losing.
     
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    Trump, true to form, is lashing out as his "easy to win" trade war inflicts its inevitable shock and awe upon America.

    The cry baby coward is incapable of ever accepting blame for his inept behavior, and this time Jerome Powell is his primary designated scapegoat:

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    Where the buck stops?
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    "Don't look at ME!
    I'm irresponsible!"


    Pathetic. So pathetic.

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    "Can I pick 'em, or can I pick 'em?"
     
  9. fmw

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    The Mooch has changed his tune after finding out he won't be hired into the white house again. Just another political hack.
     
  10. Natty Bumpo

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    Add Scaramucci to the long list of Fake Don's "best people" he had picked, only to whine about them later.
     
  11. Sandy Shanks

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    Here is an update on those figures. Matters are far worse than my earlier report.

    The Dow is down 800 points, the Nasdaq is down 242 points, and the S&P is down 86 points. The Dow is currently at 25,480, 40 points higher than it was five months ago.

    Naturally, Trump and Trump's Democrat, Peter Navarro, the architect of the trade war with China, are both blaming the Fed, according to the Trump Network, otherwise known as Fox News.

    “This is basically the Federal Reserve’s problem,” Navarro said. “They are causing this because when Jay Powell got in this chairman he proceeded to rein in interest rates by at 100 interest points, too far too fast. Even though the Trump economy is rock solid, it slowed us down a bit because of those higher interest rates.”

    Trump joined the chorus, tweeting, "The Fed has got to do something! The Fed is the Central Bank of the United States, not the Central Bank of the World."

    This, of course, is good for my health. If Trump ever accepted blame for his screwed up policy and apologized, I might have a coronary.

    What Trump and his Democrat are saying is meant for his base. They are gullible enough to believe it. No one else will.

    Let's take a look at the facts. On August 1, Trump announced a 10% tariff on $300B of Chinese goods that are popular with American consumers, clothing, shoes, computers, cell phones, etc. That precipitated the worst week of the year for the stock market. The following Monday, August 5, Trump's announcement caused the worst day of the year. The Dow plunged 760 points.

    On August 12, the Dow lost 391 points, but then on August 13 The US Trade Representative announced a delay of Trump's tariffs on several categories of Chinese-made consumer goods until December 15. Those goods include cell phones, laptop computers, video game consoles, certain toys, computer monitors, and certain items of footwear and clothing, and the Dow shot up more than 400 points.

    Tariffs on popular consumer goods cause higher prices. Even Trump admitted that yesterday. Higher prices cause inflation. Inflation causes less demand. Less demand causes unemployment. Tariffs cause recession, Econ 101.

    Today, August 15, the stock market set another record. Now it is the worst day of the year. The reason, recession fears. The Times reports, "Trade-war worries hammered financial markets again on Wednesday as data from Germany and China showed trouble for manufacturing-reliant economies, while the bond market renewed fears of an American recession."

    But our President thinks the Fed is to blame. The complete lack of comprehension on the part of our current President never ceases to amaze me.

    "If anyone had doubts that trade was the thing hanging over the market, today seals it," said Bill Stone, chief investment officer with Avalon Investment & Advisory.
     
  12. precision

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    WOW!

    I rest my case.

    Case closed folks!
     
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    YOU "rest your case?" That's a wow, alright. The ultimate way to avoid dealing with anything- is just deny everything. Problem is you can never convince yourself it's true; despite the facade you always know better inside. Nobody really knows just where your head is of course- but without realizing it, people demonstrate "tells", certain behaviors that are very reliable indicators of that. Most people can't read those at all.... but some read every one. I wish you "good luck", but I don't think you are going to have it.
     
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    Let's pray for the president.

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  15. precision

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    Well since we could all use some prayer and since its a special day

    rāma rāma mahā-bāho
     na jāne tava vikramam
    yasyaikāṁśena vidhṛtā
     jagatī jagataḥ pate

     
  16. precision

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    Trump needs to understand that he has been placed in a position with quite a significant amount of power. As such he can't preside over it like he presides over a reality show on TV. Neither can he treat foreign relations as if its some real estate deal. I have said many times before that the presence of nuclear weapons in the world requires a foreign policy that is not based on the concept of the expansion of the projection of military power. Rather it should be focused on a careful consideration of the legitimate interests of all the major stakeholders in the economic, ethnic, social, and moral realms. This concept that somehow the US will remake the world in its image in these realms is no more than a fantasy that will end up destroying the world.

    What I find interesting is that there is a certain intersection of neoconservatives like Dick Cheney and liberals like Hillary Clinton when it comes to foreign policy. However, it should not be surprising because they are both actually liberals, its just that they practice a different flavor of liberalism. The difference in the two lies only in HRC is not as far to the end of the economic liberalism side of the spectrum as Cheney. That and Cheney's ideas about egalitarianism are not as liberal as Clinton's. Other than that, they are basically the same.

    People like HRC need to remember these words from Robert Lansing concerning the right of self determination

    We only need look to Libya to see the chaos and suffering this type of thinking can cause.

    What people like Dick Cheney need to remember is this from Eisenhower

    And this from George Kennan

     
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    Fake Don frequently finds reality unacceptable. Whenever it gives him a swift boot up his fat arse, his pudgy finger automatically designates a scapegoat.

    As Trump puts an end to ten years of the nation's economic growth, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell is destined to be targeted by the dastardly digit.

     
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    Joe Walsh spiked Moscow Mitch McTreason solidly
     
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    Who cares if he does, the secret service will have no problems removing him from the White House by force.

    This is just idiots trying to drum up fear for political reasons.

    I am much more concerned about threats Democrats are making that undermine the foundation of our republic.
     
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    What threats? Need sources. Be specific.
     
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    In you dreams.
     
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    Bowerbird is correct, of course.
     
  24. precision

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    Yep, so much for that easy to win garbage..
     
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    Trump has been on the world stage for a while now. Its not some TV show where he can hide behind BS. Now he is out in the open, in a position where he has to think seriously. Thinking people have figured his BS out now. That is going to be a big problem for him.
     
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