With it’s anniversary approaching, how do teachers teach January 6, 2021?

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    archives Well-Known Member

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    ”Teachers at culture war front lines with Jan. 6 education”

    “What students are learning about the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 may depend on where they live.”

    “In a Boston suburb in heavily Democratic Massachusetts, history teacher Justin Voldman said his students will spend the day journaling about what happened and talking about the fragility of democracy.“

    “Liz Wagner, an eighth and ninth grade social studies teacher in a Des Moines suburb of increasingly Republican Iowa, got an email from an administrator last year, warning teachers to be careful in how they framed the discussion.”

    “Teachers now are left to decide how — or whether — to instruct their students about the events that sit at the heart of the country’s division. And the lessons sometimes vary based on whether they are in a red state or a blue state.”

    https://apnews.com/article/education...a62a3a02bdd30d

    It isn't any wonder fewer people want to be teachers, all they do is catch flak, some even death threats, pay is mediocre, benefits disappearing, and then they are directed to disperse political narratives

    So, given that history is not objective, how does one address the task of teaching what occurred on January 6th, 2021
     
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    History should be a very linear thing, if one is actually interested in speaking about history. As an example, the 'fragility' of democracy? If anything, the Capitol held firm in a 2 hour disruption, and then the vote proceeded accordingly. That would be history, as it actually happened not the history that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris wished would happen(as it was, it gave them 8 months of political cover for ineptitude, that's since disappeared.)

    Also, it's simple: A riot of protestors occurred because they were protesting the election results which they didn't like. There, the end. There's your brief history lesson on what turned out to be a rather mundane event in US Political history. It's not even worth a textbook or a sermon. Just briefly mention it, and move on.
     
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    Just the facts:
    Some idiots got themselves all riled up and, seeing how nothing happened to the rioters over the summer, decided to break into the Capital.
    A capitol police officer shot and killed an unarmed middle aged woman.
    Rioters peacefully walked through the capitol building and took selfies and acted like a bunch of frat boys then left.
    Pelosi got her feelings hurt and threw as many people in prison as possible.
     
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    let's hope our children do not have to witness this again in 2024 when Trump loses again
     
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    How will teachers teach the Black Lives Matter riots of the past summers?

    "The what?"
     
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    Deflection, but easy, teach them as "riots," "riots" over the disgust of the unnecessary death of a black individual
     
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    Riot to destroy civilized society as we knew it. There's literally billions in damages through the "summer of love". The 2-hour riot at the Capitol, even accounting for the Kangaroo court's costly political presence, does not even come close.
     
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    It’s easy
    Show a picture of democrats burning down Minnesota and say “when democrats do this, we call it PROTEST”
    Show a picture of Jan 6th
    “When republicans do this, we call it INSURRECTION “

    that will be all for today kids, for homework don’t forget to read chapter 2 of “white man bad”
     
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    Easy to see the direction this thread is going, so to carry it one step further, lets ask three simple questions;

    If Pence followed the gameplay laid out by Trump, Clark, Jordan and Meadows, which is what the right wanted to accomplish for that day, where do you think we would be today?

    What would have followed on January 7th?

    And given that more people voted for Biden, what would have been Americans view on those events you predicted?
     
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    If Trump were to run, and he loses, what will occur in 2024 will make last January look like a girl scout cookout
     
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    Looks like the "facts" according to Steve Bannon and Alex Jones
     
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    No riot over the summer attacked the very seat of our Government, aimed at stopping the Congress of the United States from executing its Constitutional responsibilities, nor threatened the life of the Vice President of the country, deflection and nothing more
     
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    Irrelevant, no riot over the summer attacked the very seat of our Government, aimed at stopping the Congress of the United States from executing its Constitutional responsibilities, nor threatened the life of the Vice President of the country, citing the summer riots is a straight out deflection and nothing more
     
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    It is not irrelevant because you say it is
    You just proved my point regarding hypocrisy
    You know who it was relevant to? The owners of the businesses that were burned down.
    The only deflection I see and denial are from your post
    Again, thank you
    I love when you guys prove my points for me
    It’s like having employees but for free
     
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    Probably because all the transgenders are now free to join in.
     
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    There was riot at the West Wing? I followed a lot of news that day, but that's news to me.(The seat of government is the executive branch, that's one of the main reasons an insurrection charge will NEVER happen. To insulate insurrection, the rioters would have to be toppling what was then the Trump Administration(the transition of power officially occurred on the 20th of January.) .

    Furthermore, prosecutors have failed to establish(and in many cases, didn't even bother to establish) that their goal was to "stop Congress from executing its constitutional responsibilities.". What you have is a riot, what you always had was a riot. What it is, is a riot. It's no different than the riots of the 1760's, only now we have about 500 times the media firepower to cover it, then your daily local newsletter.
     
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    The "owners of the businesses" certainly had insurance, there is no insurance for the end of democracy, and your "proved my point" is pure talk radio rhetoric, or as you put it, "because you say it is"
     
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    Pretty much spot on.
     
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    Lots of people die unnecessarily every day. Are we saying everybody gets to riot?
     
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    Stop fear mongering to drive a political agenda.
     
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    Wow, I can't imagine living life this scared.

    Curious. When protestors took over the Wisconsin State Capital by force, angry about the change to employment laws, were they working to unseat government? Was it an insurrection?
     
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    Seat of the Government is not the West Wing, the Chief Executive executes the law, he doesn't write it, it is largely an administrative position, and the capitol is refereed to as the House of the people for a reason

    And the very purpose of the events of day was to stop Congress from executing its constitutional responsibilities, to execute the script according to the Trump, Clark, Jordan and Meadows strategdy, to stop Pence from declaring Biden the next President of the United States.

    You sure you "followed a lot of news that day," or, were "following a lot of news" on certain TV channels
     
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    it depends
    if they were mostly republican , its insurrection
    if they were mostly democrats, its "peaceful protest"
    please understand
     
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    When remembering Jan 6th, we should first, and always, remember the plain and undisputed facts that the only person that was killed that day was an unarmed woman, and she was killed by a federal agent.

    Would anyone like to dispute those simple facts?

    And notice that I said "dispute", and not obfuscate, because I know exactly what Democrats would like to do here.
     
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