Without the power grid, 90% are dead within 2 years.

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  1. AboveAlpha

    AboveAlpha Well-Known Member

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    Actually I get that.

    I find that the mosquito's in and around a specific lake in Massachusetts to be small and fast as HELL!! LOL!!!

    In settled areas they do aerial spraying so I have very little mosquito's around my home and the one's that are here are very slow and easy to kill.

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  2. Lil Mike

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    You called BS? Oh the irony....
     
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    OK....then just TRY to state we would need to use ONLY EHV-CLASS TRANSFORMERS in order to restore service!!

    You and I both know that is NOT TRUE!!!

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  4. Lil Mike

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    I didn't state that. Please stop altering my words to fit your agenda.
     
  5. AboveAlpha

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    Let me remind you and the membership to your little tirade that you posted to me.

    You posted....."There already is a manufacturing backlog of EHV-class transformers and the largest types are not even made in the US. It would be years, and trillions of dollars to get enough of those to get the power grid back up to 100%. There would be a lot of havoc in the meantime.'

    Now your post states...." It would be years, and trillions of dollars to get enough of those to get the power grid back up.".....thus inferring in the event of an emergency we would have to use ONLY EHV-CLASS TRANSFORMERS in order to restore electrical services.

    THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE!!!

    You posted this like you have posted many other falsehoods in an attempt to place questions upon what I posted.

    This has been your MO for some time after a while back I proved your posting to be erroneous.

    You have never gotten over it so every time you see one of my posts you do your best to cast doubt upon it.

    Fortunately I actually KNOW what I am talking about.

    Unlike you.

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    You're full of it. I said it would be years, and trillions of dollars to get enough of those to get the power grid back up and I was right. The power grid isn't going to be restored by running wire and gas generators. Like I said, virtually everything you've posted is wrong.
     
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    Sorry - not a patch on the Darwin Mozzie

    I won't say they are big but one landed at the Darwin airport and they refuelled it before they realised their mistake

    Still looking for the six Japanese tourists that boarded it too..................... :D
     
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    I'd be just fine, I have a water reservoirs on my property, enough boxes of ramen to survive a nuclear winter, and multi vitamin supplements for days, and a stockpile of my own blood in my downstairs freezer. (Never know when you might run your hand down a table saw and need an immediate transfusion.)

    I also have firearms and a lot of friends, meaning, if I need something in that scenario, I'll take from someone else. Unlikely I will need anything, but if I do...

    Knowledge is your friend above all else, transformers hold water in the bottoms of them, this can be purified to drinking water. Sand and charcoal make an excellent water filter.
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    I see that once again you revert to your standard tactic.

    That being to completely ignore the challenges to what you posted.

    You posted that because we did not have a specific class of transformer available because they are on order backlog that in the event of a multiple state loss of power that it would take many years and trillions of dollars to restore basic electrical services.

    YOU STATED THIS!!!

    And this is completely untrue.

    In the event of an emergency we are fully capable of using a number of other types of transformers and even limiting the amount of electricity being sent to homes if necessary to restore basic services.

    There is NO WAY IN HELL....that the United States would WAIT to have some company manufacture a specific class of transformer to restore basic electrical service!!!

    For crying out loud it would be possible to completely reline an entire area in just a matter of 6 months and although electrical service might be spotty and we might not be able to supply as much power to cities and town we did prior to such an event we certainly are well capable of restoring basic service and in time we would restore full service.

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    I did a JOB with my Team on an island off the East coast of Sumatra and I spent some time after the JOB was done in and around the Aussie city of Derby.....although it is not that big of a city.

    There was some serious bugs flying!!

    For whatever reason Aussie men and women have the tendency to strip off their clothing and go naked every time they see a body of water!!! LOL!!

    Now my Team and I and our hosts were having a lot of fun and as the guy's and myself that are a part of my Team are in well above average shape we did not have any issues striping down and joining in the water fun...BUT....those damn black bugs!!!

    Some kind of big nat.

    One of the Aussie girls with us got bit several times on her throat, neck, behind her ears and on her breast.

    Wherever the bugs bit blood would immediately flow.

    What are they called?

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    As a disabled person I would likely have to find a group to be part of as I would almost certainly perish if left to my own. Medication would become an issue and untreated ailments would likely shorten my life and severely impact my ability to be productive.
     
  12. Lil Mike

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    OK I will accept your expertise on how long and what it would take to restore a destroyed power grid with the same trust I have in all of the other issues you claim expertise in.
     
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    We are talking about restoring a system that has not been physically destroyed as if the system failed due to BOMBING....well then that is an entirely different issue.

    I was saying that in the event the system failed due to a large number of lines being down and transformer blow outs due to a massive storm then basic services could be restored in 3 weeks to a month.

    Now that does not mean full service would be restored but basic limited services could be.

    In the event of an EMP we are talking at minimum 6 months to restore emergency and basic services and this would be providing only LIMITED amounts of power.

    Yes it would take over a year to fully restore full power to every home and business in such a large area in the event of an EMP strike....BUT.....we are fully capable of getting limited service available.

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    It's always a good idea to ask your Doctor to write you a few emergency scripts that you would fill and store.

    And as one of our family own companies is specific to medicine and medical equipment it's a good idea to buy and install a Generator especially if your a person who needs a stair chair lift.

    When the power went out in Western Mass. for up to 10 days in some areas after a massive storm dumped 36 inches of heavy wet snow upon our region and as the trees still had autumn leaves on them this wet snow brought down MILLIONS of large tree branches which in turn brought down thousands upon thousands of electrical lines.

    I personally spent a week going to some of the homes on our customer lists where we had delivered electrical powered medical equipment such as chair lifts and stair case lift chairs and lift beds to check on the elderly who did not have home phone use due to the down lines and because they were old did not own cell phones.

    In 5 cases I had to call the Police and Fire Departments to get these people to the hospital as in some cases an elderly man or woman had been stuck sitting in a lift chair for DAYS!!!

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    A storm? You think this thread is about losing power due to a storm?

    Look...just go back to your classified alien posts.
     
  16. AboveAlpha

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    LOL!!!

    You really have very little ability to be civil.

    I don't know what's funnier....the fact that you consider anyone who is rational enough to acknowledge the very easily available evidence specific to E.T.....OR.....the fact that in a Universe this vast that you would think those who believe other intelligent alien races exist are somehow crazy!!

    LOL!!!

    The universe is far more complex than what you would read in the Bible.

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    I mean, presumably we could revert to barter quite easily in a survival situation. I don't think it takes that much experience to drastically improve your odds of survival in such a situation. Even camping experience is invaluable.
     
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    The storm we have to worry about is not terrestrial but solar

    Impact on Earth[edit]

    When the ejection is directed towards Earth and reaches it as an interplanetary CME (ICME), the shock wave of the traveling mass of solar energetic particles causes a geomagnetic storm that may disrupt Earth's magnetosphere, compressing it on the day side and extending the night-side magnetic tail. When the magnetosphere reconnects on the nightside, it releases power on the order of terawatt scale, which is directed back toward Earth's upper atmosphere.

    Solar energetic particles can cause particularly strong aurorae in large regions around Earth's magnetic poles. These are also known as the Northern Lights (aurora borealis) in the northern hemisphere, and the Southern Lights (aurora australis) in the southern hemisphere. Coronal mass ejections, along with solar flares of other origin, can disrupt radio transmissions and cause damage to satellites and electrical transmission line facilities, resulting in potentially massive and long-lasting power outages.[7][8]

    Humans at high altitudes, as in airplanes or space stations, risk exposure to relatively intense cosmic rays. The energy absorbed by astronauts is not reduced by a typical spacecraft shield design and, if any protection is provided, it would result from changes in the microscopic inhomogeneity of the energy absorption events.[9


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronal_mass_ejection

    I agree that we would not have the catastrophic breakdown some are predicting but many scientists in this field are concerned at how vulnerable our power system is and how long it might take to restore if a big event occurred. For many many reasons society should be moving towards point of use power generation. Solar plus a Teslar power bank or similar small scale power generators. There are a plethora of equipment that will run on 12 volt power - including (and I am looking at one now) induction heating plates
     
  19. Lil Mike

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    Well I think that you thinking there is actual evidence for ET is making my point.
     
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    I am well aware o CME's and your right....a big CME could cause a massive amount of damage and it could take years.

    But such a large CME would effect at a minimum a whole half of the Earth or if the CME continued for a longer period it could effect electrical grids worldwide.

    AA
     
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    There is evidence and I will tell you what to Google.

    After the Freedom of Information Act became law a person researching Climate Change and checking into crow harvests and rain fall in the American Southwest specifically New Mexico....this person was looking for such data in a U.S. Dept. of Agriculture Files and Data Repository in New Mexico and this man found letters sent from FBI Director J.Edgar Hoover to the founder of SAC and the man who coined the phrase..."Bomb them back to the Stone Age!"......General Curtis LeMay.

    In the first letter that Hoover sent to LeMay the FBI Director demands that General LeMay give full and total access to all alien crash debris sent to Wright Field in Dayton Ohio to the FBI.

    Wright Field is now Wright Patterson AFB home of the U.S. Air Force's Reverse Engineering Division.

    General Curtis LeMay sent a letter back to FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover telling his to immediately cease and desist all corespondents concerning the Roswell incident.

    Hoover would not back down and it took a dressing down by both Ike and President Truman to get Hoover to stop talking about the crash.

    ALL OF THIS INFORMATION....is now readily available on the Internet as these letters were made available due to the Freedom of Information Act.

    The letters are certified as authentic by the U.S. Government.

    AA
     
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    A subject better left for the conspiracy section
     
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    then of course is the other issue, no matter how prepared you are, someone with a gun that is not, just may take it from you, only takes one bullet
     
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    Your reply is pathetic.

    This information is EASILY CONFIRMED.

    You can also look up a number of U.S. Astronauts such as Buzz Aldrin, George Mitchell and Gordon Cooper among many others who have come forth now that they are older as they had to sign non-disclosure agreements with NASA.....and now that they are old they have come forth and have discussed in depth their contact with alien races and craft.

    Are you going to now say that 20 plus Astronauts are crazy?

    AA
     

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