Woman claimed her husband repeatedly raped her, jury says he is not guilty

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  1. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    You are completely screwed up.
    Starting with "they are married. Conjugal rights comes with that territory."
    WHOSE conjugal rights?
    Rights include saying no.
    Here i was told The Asteroid wiped out the dinosaurs.
    Geesh.
     
  2. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    Because she doesn't like being surprised from behind when taking a shower.
    I myself p consider taking a shower "my time". My private personal time. I certainly do not welcome intrusion into "My Space". I would hate it if anyone of my family jumped me in the shower, pinned me back and demanded sex when I said no.
    Sounds like rape, doesn't it?
    Martiage is nor a contract to take a woman when you want. She is NOT your property.
    You have not claimed your right to her body. That happens in other cultures but not ours.
    I seriously think you should reconsider your relationships with women.
     
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  3. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you think this is a situation for government to come in and treat it like rape?

    That would obviously be incest if anyone in your family besides your husband tried to have sex with you.

    A husband and wife own eachother's bodies, in some sense. It is a union.
     
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  4. Pixie

    Pixie Well-Known Member

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    This is a wind up.
    I have said all I will say on the matter and have no more time to spend on a joke.
     
  5. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump's wife claimed he raped her too

    but it's always hard to know if what an ex says is true or not

    if they are separated and not living in the same house, be different
     
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  6. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So what, she was practically a prostitute. She was having sex for money. Did anyone not know that?

    When she got married, it's like a health club selling a year-long membership.
     
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  7. VotreAltesse

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    What ? No. Male rape exist (forced to penetrate) even if it's still taboo.

    Considering the main topic, forced sex is rape, outside or inside a marriage.
     
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  8. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's not the same thing inside marriage.

    And no, no woman is forced to be a perpetual sex slave. She can divorce him if things are that bad.
     
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    It's sad to consider bad treatment should end only because of the threat of divorce. I don't know if there is a lot of things to argue, being forced is being forced, even if it's your husband, even if you took pleasure with him before. I'm afraid there is not that much to argue.

    You can have days off because you're sad, times you can be really sick and not the energy to that.
     
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    If the woman declined, then yes.

    Unfortunately, women have been (past tense in most of the Western world) taught that it is their 'duty' to submit to their husbands (or any man) and that would include sex.

    In the Western world, that is not applicable anymore. While a woman may be psychologically convinced that she has no other choice, most woman have means available to remove themselves from a situation like that, and more improvements to that support system are happening almost weekly.

    Not all men treat women as the OP depicted. There is a huge difference between seduction and coercion. A repeated No is one of the signs.
     
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    You really need to do some research on abusive relationships. I mean BEFORE you post any more uneducated tid bits of idiocy.
     
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  12. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In my state, spousal rape is an offense only if force is used, or if the spouse is incapacitated.

    In the state of South Carolina, a weapon or aggravated violence has to be used.
    Even then, the maximum penalty for spousal rape is three times less than it is for regular rape.


    "Until 1975, every state in the nation considered a husband’s rape of his wife an exception to its rape laws. Legal codes of the time either defined rape as a man having non-consensual sexual intercourse with a “woman not his wife” or defined the victim of the offense to exclude the wife of the actor. (see for example UTAH CODE ANN. § 76-5-402 (1985), ALA. CODE § 13A-6-6O(4) 1977 )
    Slowly, states began to repeal these exceptions, with Oklahoma and North Carolina being the last to do, both in 1993. (For context, 1993 was the year that Beanie Babies first became a national sensation.) Today, the law of spousal rape is nuanced. Although it is now technically illegal in every state for one spouse to rape the other, vestiges of the spousal rape exception still permeate into many states’ laws."


    From the famous seventeenth-century judge and legal expert, Sir Matthew Hale:
    "For the husband cannot be guilty of a rape committed by himself upon his lawful wife for by their mutual matrimonial consent and contract the wife hath given up herself in this kind unto her husband which she cannot retract."
    M. Hale, Pleas of the Crown 629 (1847)

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...arre-legal-loopholes-surrounding-spousal-rape
     
  13. Pixie

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    All ancient history.
     
  14. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Watch the film Marnie (1964), starring Sean Connery.

    The film was made back when society had a little bit different prevailing views.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She definitely does not have a duty to submit to any man... not even her boyfriend.
    And not her husband either if it's the type of marriage where the man is free to sleep around. She has no obligation to sleep with a man who could give her an STD due to his actions. Especially when the man is not confined to her, there is no reason she should be sexually obliged to her.

    Apparently there are different types of marriages, from how some of you seem to be describing marriage and what the guy should do if the wife is not putting out. (If he has other sexual outlets, then yes, I agree, he doesn't need her)
     
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    Somewhat related....

    I read earlier today on internet news where the sheriff's department volunteer was busted for a whole lot of so-called ghost guns....

    And it said that his wife turned him in. I thought wow what a great wife....

    Upon reading the story further she had been complaining to the sheriff's department.... Which he volunteered for so unsurprisingly little action was taken...

    Until she eventually went to the DA and forced action.

    Also very much unsurprisingly, buried way down in the story ......

    Was the fact that she only began to try to get him in legal trouble after their divorce began...

    Imagine that...

    I'm betting this marriage was similar
     
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    LOL!!! Spoken by someone who has clearly never been married.

    But to this extent I agree. I put up with a near sexless marriage for decades - and a completely sexless marriage for a decade. But the fact is, I should have dumped her butt the day after our wedding night. That was when she started cutting me off - on our wedding night.

    Men have been trained to put up with his crap. You don't go around forcing women but I do advise dumping a woman who won't show any affection. It never gets better. Women used to consider it a duty to take care of their husband, If they don't feel that way, then the man should feel no duty to remain loyal.
     
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    Did your partner limit you to once a month?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Welcome to the real world.
     
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    My advice to those women is quite simple:aim at center mass and fire until the threat is neutralized.
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you marry someone, you agree to have sex with them. (Especially if the marriage has already been consummated)
    She might not have agreed to that specific instance of sex, but she agreed to sex with that same person numerous times before.

    Trying to claim that having sex with someone without their permission, when you have had sex with their permission numerous times before, is anywhere close to being the same as having sex with someone else without their permission who has never given you permission to have sex with them before, that is absurd!

    Especially when it is inside a marriage. She didn't just agree once to have sex with him, as a casual fling; she agreed to marry him!

    (That is not my entire argument, that is only part of the argument)
     
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    I suspect there's probably more to this case.

    In general I disagree with the overall premise- agreement to marriage is not agreement to providing sex 'at will.' Consent is arguably more subjective in marriage, but dissent is not. No still means no.

    However, its also a fair point that if someone 'rapes' you but you choose to stay where they can keep 'raping' you, I'm not inclined to believe what's happening is actually 'rape.'
     
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    would that make it ok?
     
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    Is this the next "50 Shades" book?
     
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    Do you support the "My Wallet, My Choice" movement?
     

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