Woman explains why she left ‘super wild’ lesbian lifestyle to follow Christ

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  1. yabberefugee

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    I had an older boy try and talk me into something he had tried when I was about 10 years old. I could barely comprehend the act. Had I relented, the shame might have caused me to continue the course (like I am sure it has for many embracing the lifestyle.) Fortuneatly, I had the grace bestowed upon me to get out of there as if the woods were on fire!
    So you seem to be an expert on the Hershey Highway. Are you one to promote the,insertion of a gland into an orifice made exactly to exude harmful bacteria and waste products? Did you know the Penis self protects by emitting a secretion to protect the body from disease in the "normal" function for which it was designed? This optional use that you seem to promote is overwhelming to it's natural function. Have you experienced Hepatitus C yet? How 'bout aids? Problem with kidney infections?? This conversation is repulsive to most, however you might find it titilating.
     
  2. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you seem to be a promoter of the lifestyle. That's what this is all about. "Everybody does it so it is fine". No....it is a lie. The shame of it keeps you trapped.
     
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    if you think it is a choice, it's cause your bi-sexual, only bi-sexuals have a choice

    not everyone is bi-sexual, I know it's hard for someone born that way to understand that

    it's hard for me to understand how someone can be sexually attracted to both genders, as I was not born that way, I never had a choice
     
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  4. Polydectes

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    people can change their behaviors I agree but they can't change their attraction.

    I don't complain about unicorns or potato fairies either.

    I don't know that these things exist.
    thank you. People should always abandon stupid beliefs.
     
  5. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You sure have embraced one.
     
  6. yabberefugee

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    I've heard that in foreign lands some men are attracted to sheep. Are they born that way???? or do the just entertain perversions to satisfy their lusts that cannot be quenched?
     
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    you can have sex with your hand, just not the same thing.. understand

    animals and children can not give consent...

    two consenting adults can make up their own minds
     
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  8. Polydectes

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    The belief that one cannot change their sexual orientation?

    That's actually reasonable
     
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  9. yabberefugee

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    How 'bout a knot hole in a tree....it's a living thing. Sex is between a man and a women, hopefully of commitment. Anything else is not sex.
     
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    Fair enough. You can believe only one thing qualifies as sex, but your argument will be merely semantics.
     
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    I can help you there. Naturally we are oriented to the opposite sex. That is how we are made. That is how we continue to reginerate. Hopefully it is an act of love and comittment between a man and a women. Anything out side of that is a mental disorder. Sometimes caused by a trauma or other times a perverse environment. Sometimes it is just an experiment with peers. Whatever the cause, the shame involved keeps the individual in bondage outside of a re-birth as experienced in the OP.
     
  12. Polydectes

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    Show any evidence that homosexuality is cased by trauma or perverse enviroment.

    So all someone has to do is some ritual and they are magically absolved of any sexual orientation?

    Forgive me for not believing in magic. You'll have to explain how this works
     
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    So you cannot support these claims?

    Look dude you're entitled to your opinion and I take really know issue with that at all.

    Further you're entitled to your opinion on semantics.

    I just disagree.

    Without a way to show that I'm wrong all you really have is a differing opinion.

    People with differing opinions do not bother me.
     
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    I wouldn't really waste my time arguing with his fellow he's expressing an opinion.

    Basically put he has nothing to argue.
     
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    so you attribute good sense to some sort of cosmic miracle?

    And other people who are homosexual we're in the same situation or a similar situation and did not receive the miracle?

    I can extrapolate a few things out of this.

    One; Whatever Cosmic entity is in charge of Doling out these miracles is a sadist and an a******.

    Two; You don't believe humans are capable of understanding when a situation is dangerous without some intervention known as Grace.

    Three; You believe shame induces sexual orientation for some reason.

    First, anal sex and oral sex are practiced largely by heterosexual people.

    So conflating homosexuality with anal sex is a bit idiotic.

    Second, nobody should give a s*** what normal is they shouldn't use the statistical likelihood of something to evaluate whether or not they should do that.

    so he's not asking you to do it.

    No.

    if you find it repulsive goodbye.
     
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    yes anyone and everyone here knows what you think you are entitled to your opinion.

    so you believe that if people are not exposed to the same sex they will not find them attractive?

    So only people who have tried gay sex and didn't like it can claim to be heterosexual? Otherwise you're just one blowjob away from being gay.

    Odd I figured if that's how it came to be there would be a lot more people then just 2 to 3% that were gay.
     
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    Don't know if you are in tune with things spiritual. Maybe you don't care. Or maybe you mock....but I won't prejudge and give you the benefit of doubt. I don't believe in magic either, but I do believe in the supernatural. The evidence is all around us. Being "born again" and you may have heard of that, entails dying to oneself and the system of this world while allowing a rebirth of spirit in the form of what God initially wanted for all of us. It is done through the sacrifice of His Son Jesus Christ who gives us power for rebirth. It is a free gift for all who believe. Now repentence and submission are part of that process but it is done willingly when the Love God has for us is finally realized. I believe that is what empowered the Lady described in the OP.
     
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    Enjoy what you do for a season.
     
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    Just curious....you seem to be the statistic wizard.....do you have a percentage of animals that have anal sex?? Since you seem to find it natural, it should be quite common. Or do they know better?
     
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    Spirituality is a personal thing. So I don't really value it from an argumentative stance

    I have nothing against religious beliefs because such beliefs are opinions.

    If they're used to make arguments about the nature of things however these beliefs will be put through skeptic scrutiny as they should.

    If you don't want your beliefs butchered keep them off the butchering block.

    What I mean by that is if you're going to make an argument that being gay is morally wrong because Jesus in Supernatural and God then you have to prove Jesus existed and was God and then you have to prove that he does not approve of homosexuals he did not write the Bible so that's not enough proof for me then you have to prove that it all existed in the first place.

    I am a religious person myself but I never argue things using religion as my rationale. The reason why is because I cannot prove Jesus and God in Supernatural exist.
     
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    This response makes no sense.
     
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    no I don't further I don't care. Humans are clearly a different type of animal.

    natural does not mean common.

    And albino raccoon is natural but it is not common.

    Also humans are quite different than other animals. I don't eat meat because I saw a dog do it I eat meat because I want to. I don't drive to the grocery store in my car to purchase the meat I wish to eat because I saw an antelope do it.

    So your reasoning for why you consider something to be natural or whether or not we should do it is very flawed.
     
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    born again, I know some Churches, that will re-viginitise you too... some people believe in this stuff, so be it, to each their own
     
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    Agreed to each their own even if they're gay and want to be in a relationship with someone of the opposite sex I don't necessarily think that's wrong unless they're lying.

    Tricking someone into marrying you is dishonest and immoral.
     
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    shoot, we aren't the ones who claim that one is "born homosexual"

    We still await some type of medical test that can be performed on a person which shows that they like them some gay-sex.

    Tests can be conducted to prove ones' sex and racial makeup, but not how they like sex or if they cross-dress.

    Despite that, special accords are now given to those who cross-dress and engage in deviant, homosexual sex. All one need to do is claim that they are (denied, fired, discriminated etc) because they have gay sex. How can the avg person know how you like sex unless we follow you into your bedroom? So, special treatment is given without the burden of proof levied upon those who demand the special treatment

    This OP and others similar to the woman in the OP showcase that the sexual lifestyle that you lead is a choice. For a short period in my life I was attracted to fish. Now, I can't even stand the taste. Prefrences change for many people throughout their lives and for some, they appear to simply tire of the gay lifestyle or realize that it is deviant sexual behavior as well as wrong in the eyes of God, and they switch.
     

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