Woman with Gun Stops Mass Shooting

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    changed New Member Past Donor

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    It is being reported that the Colorado Church Shooting that occurred this week was prevented from being a large-scale massacre by an average woman with a Concealed Handgun License that volunteered to be armed during services. While several media sources are mentioning the hero’s size and gender, not very many are including the important fact that she was armed with only her license and personal handgun.

    However, if you look hard enough, you can find some honest reporters that found that fact interesting.

    Colorado Shooting Highlights Churches' New Emphasis on Security

    COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — When a black-clad gunman walked into New Life Church on Sunday and started shooting, he was met with the church's first line of defense: a congregant with a concealed weapons permit and a law enforcement background.

    The woman, an armed volunteer, shot and killed the gunman. New Life's pastor credited her with saving 100 lives.

    …

    “…we had people undercover in the congregation who were armed," Dodd [of Colorado Springs, a former New Life Church staff member] said. "It was a big church at the time, it was Christian, and some people really hate that stuff.”

    "Not only do we have military and ex-military all over, we have this sort of frontier mentality. People around here are serious about protecting their own."

    …

    "It's something you just have to do today," said Shook, whose congregation draws 15,600 people per weekend. "We want everyone to feel safe. At the same time, we want to be open and accepting of everyone. An incident like this one in Colorado Springs just reinforces what the church is — we have to be a light in a dark world."


    From The Rocky Mountain News:

    Pastor tells of horrific day

    The guard, a member of the New Life Church who provides security as a volunteer, was called a hero by church officials today.

    "She's the hero," Senior Pastor Brady Boyd said. "She saved 100 lives yesterday."

    Michael Ware, pastor of Victory Church in Westminster and a New Life overseer, said the security guard is a small woman, "110 pounds dripping wet."

    Relating the account he had been told, Ware said the woman ordered Matthew Murray to drop his weapon and they exchanged shots. The attacker shot at the guard, missed, and kept walking into the church, Ware said. The woman fired again, taking down the gunman.

    Unfortunately, Ohio churches are de facto “Gun Free Zones”. Unless special permission was given, this Colorado hero with a Concealed Handgun License could not have “saved 100 lives” in Ohio.

    Please join me in contacting every outlet you can think of with this information and the call for Ohio to remove its provision in the law for ludicrous “Gun Free Zones" that only guarantee a would-be mass killer that he will have the only gun. Recent events have shown us that these supposed “Gun Free Zones” attract massacres. They do not prevent them.

    We have a responsibility to flood every newspaper editor, radio station, TV station, and most importantly, your representatives in Columbus with emails and phone calls calling for an immediate end to dangerous “Gun Free Zones” in Ohio given this heroic woman's actions that preserved countless lives. http://http://ohioccw.org/200712113921/colorado-church-shooter-stopped-by-license-holder.html
     
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    changed New Member Past Donor

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    Then a CHL Holder is killed trying to save someone during a mass shooting, but the media ignores HIM!

    Good Morning America, today (Friday) mentioned the shooting in Tyler, Texas.

    Although their website does give some credit to Mark Wilson, (CCW holder) who interevened by returning fire, the segment in the news did not even mention him.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=530625

    From the website.
    The other victim, Mark Alan Wilson, 52, was credited by authorities with saving the life of David Hernandez Arroyo Jr.

    The segment on TV gave the credit soley to police officers at the courthouse for stopping the murderer.

    But the website says.
    Wilson, a gun enthusiast who once owned a shooting range, intervened after Arroyo killed his ex-wife, witnesses said. Swindle, the police chief, said Wilson shot at Arroyo several times but his rounds weren't penetrating the armor.

    Is this just a glossing over of the details?, or is it something a bit more?

    I think it's quite sad that the media missed an opportunity to give accurate details of which they were in possession.


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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this story is 9 years old
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    This one isn't. It's a little more than a year old:
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...er-shoots-gunman-met-0420-20150419-story.html
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they both start with G and the Gun is much more likely to defend you then a God

    so which would you put your faith in when going to church?

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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    Well, I'm 50, so, yes, I think one year old is a current event. (and it's our, not hour, planet).
     
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    The authority of Florida deemed Mateen to be okay, but look what he did. This woman, well known to a spiritual leader is deemed okay, look what she did.

    I present proof of the concealment of mass murder and treason to federal judges, look what they do.

    Original IN RE; (in regard, information ony) filed with criminal clerk. Proper procedure according to both civil and criminal clerks before filing, because title 18 is criminal.
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    After judge manual real found out I was expecting the judges to do donething about the concealment of mass murder and treason by the parties named.
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    The notice from the clerk that does not even acknowledge that the original filing from the criminal clerks office was removed and refiled as my civil complaint(without my authority) against the parties originally only disclosed about.
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no proof that she stopped a mass shooting, let alone 100 deaths. This is the stupidest story I've read in a while.
     
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    changed New Member Past Donor

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    Ronstar, I don't care how old it is. The facts are the facts. All I did was Google CHL Holders stop shooters, and picked the first 3.
    Hopefully one day, someone will save your butt from getting mugged or killed from someone like this.
     
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    Freshair,
    I am not sure why you are asking about MY faith. Clearly you must know I am Pro Gun. And like I said, I Googled CHL stops shooter and I picked the first 3.

    - - - Updated - - -

    "That is pretty good odds to me"
     
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    "[Does it really matter how old it is? Facts are still facts! Like I said, I grabbed the first 3 when I Googled CHL holder stops shooter."]
     
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    "That is a huge fail on behalf on our government! I know for a fact when I go buy a gun, even with a CHL you have to fill out a lot of paperwork. And before I got my license it was an SOB! And in Texas, you can't go to Gun Shows and just buy a gun. You still have to pass a background check. I don't know what loopholes they are talking about. Even online, you have to send to a FFL deal and still fill out the paperwork."
     
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    "Well Pardy" Don't shoot the messenger. I got the story, NO..... STORIES from 2 different links. Which story did you think was the stupidest?
    Or let me correct my Grammar, Which story did you think was more Stupid?"
     
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    There's no proof you are not a covert agent, but your post indicates you may be.
    Dressed in black with a drawn gun, that will not be released, indicates a competent intervention with a clear intent.

    Meanwhile, posting on a phone had me copy up the wrong url for the last image of my last post.

    This is the notice from the clerk.

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