Women In The Military

Discussion in 'Warfare / Military' started by upside-down cake, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. IgnoranceisBliss

    IgnoranceisBliss Well-Known Member

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    You've clearly done your time Kig. My only concern is your lack of Infantry experience (correct me if I'm wrong). I personally feel that Women are a valuable asset to the vast majority of military jobs. That said, I feel that Infantry and certain other ground combat arms units should remain all male. This is my concern with the argument surrounding women in combat. Most civilains don't understand the distinction between the two positions.
     
  2. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    I was Infantry (11B) and did my combat tours, two CIB's. While I agree that the combat arms are a mans world, the rules of combat have changed dramatically and front lines are often not well defined. I say that if a woman can make it through the training with no special rules for women and they can pull their weight in all ways then I say they should be allowed. I do not know of many women that would actually want to be in a combat arms MOS, it is not a job suited for many men and even fewer women. I think a better solution is that the Army train all soldiers to be combat soldiers first and other specialties second, like the Marines do. It would make all our men and women exposed to possible combat situations far better soldiers and make our Army even better than anyone we will ever face. I once thought as you but situations change and we should adapt where possible.
     
  3. Herkdriver

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    I misspoke and as an addendum...
    113 service women, not 400, have died in operations relating to GWOT, or whatever politically correct term they refer to fighting terrorism abroad now-a-days.

    In memoriam:

    They gave the last full measure.

    RIP

    Operation Iraqi Freedom
    Specialist Lori A. Piestewa, USA
    Sergeant Melissa Valles, USA
    Specialist Alyssa R. Peterson, USA
    Private First Class Analaura Esparza-Gutierrez, USA
    Specialist Tamarra J. Ramos, USA
    Seaman Jakia S. Cannon, USN
    Private First Class Rachel Kristen Heather Bosveld, USA
    Private First Class Karina S. Lau, USA
    Specialist Frances M. Vega, USA
    Chief Warrant Officer 5 Sharon T. Swartworth, USA
    Sergeant Linda C. Jimenez, USA
    Staff Sergeant Kimberly Voelz, USA
    Captain Kimberly N. Hampton, USA
    Sergeant Keicia M. Hines, USA
    Private First Class Holly J. McGeogh, USA
    Private First Class Nichole M. Frye, USA
    Captain Gussie M. Jones, USA
    Specialist Tyanna S. Avery-Felder, USA
    Specialist Michelle M. Witmer, USA
    Specialist Isela Rubalcava, USA
    Private First Class Leslie D. Jackson, USA
    Private First Class Melissa J. Hobart, USA
    Sergeant First Class Linda Ann Tarango-Griess, USA
    Sergeant Tatjana Reed, USA
    Sergeant Shawna M. Morrison, IL ARNG
    Staff Sergeant Gina R. Sparks, USA
    Specialist Jessica L. Cawvey, IL ARNG
    Sergeant Pamela G. Osbourne, USA
    Sergeant Cari A. Gasiewicz, USA
    Sergeant Tina S. Time, USAR
    Sergeant Jessica M. Housby, IL ARNG
    Specialist Katrina L. Bell-Johnson, USA
    Specialist Lizbeth Robles, USA
    Specialist Adriana N. Salem, USA
    Specialist Aleina Ramirezgonzalez, USA
    Private First Class Sam W. Huff, USA
    Specialist Carrie L. French, ID ARNG
    Lance Corporal Holly A. Charette, USMC
    Corporal Ramona M. Valdez, USMC
    Petty Officer 1st Class Regina R. Clark, USN
    Sergeant First Class Tricia L. Jameson, NE ARNG
    Private First Class Lavena Lynn Johnson, USA
    Specialist Toccara R. Green, USA
    Airman First Class Elizabeth N. Jacobson, USAF
    First Lieutenant Debra A. Banaszak, MO ARNG
    Sergeant Julia V. Atkins, USA
    Sergeant Myla L. Maravillosa, USA
    Sergeant Regina C. Reali, USAR
    First Lieutenant Jaime L. Campbell, AK ARNG
    Private First Class Tina M. Priest, USA
    Private First Class Amy A. Duerksen, USA
    Sergeant Amanda N. Pinson, USA
    Lance Corporal Juana NavarroArellano, USMC
    Petty Officer 2nd Class Jaime S. Jaenke, USN
    Private First Class Hannah L. McKinney, USA
    Second Lieutenant Emily J.T. Perez, USA
    Sergeant Jennifer M. Hartman, USA
    First Lieutenant Ashley L. (Henderson) Huff, USA
    Lieutenant Commander Jane E. (Lanham) Tafoya, USN
    Sergeant Denise A. Lannaman, NY ARNG
    Sergeant Jeannette T. Dunn, USA
    Major Megan M. McClung, USMC
    Major Gloria D. Davis, USA
    Seaman Sandra S. Grant, USN
    Senior Airman Elizabeth A. Loncki, USAF
    Petty Officer 1st Class Jennifer A. Valdivia, USN
    Command Sergeant Major Marilyn L. Gabbard, IA ARNG
    Specialist Carla J. Stewart, CA ARNG
    Corporal Jennifer M. Parcell, USMC
    Captain Jennifer J. Harris, USMC
    Sergeant Ashly L. Moyer, USA
    Private First Class Katie M. Soenksen, USA
    Specialist Karen N. Clifton, USA
    Sergeant Trista L. Moretti, USA
    Specialist Michelle R. Ring, USA
    Captain Maria I. Ortiz, USA
    Staff Sergeant Alicia A. Birchett, USA
    Sergeant Princess C. Samuels, USA
    Specialist Zandra T. Walker, USA
    Specialist Kamisha J. Block, USA
    Specialist Marisol Heredia, USA
    Captain (Dr.) Roselle M. Hoffmaster, USA
    Seaman Apprentice Shayna Ann Schnell, USN
    Specialist Rachael L. Hugo, USAR
    Staff Sergeant Lillian Clamens, USAR
    Seaman Anamarie Sannicolas Camacho, USN
    Seaman Genesia Mattril Gresham, USN
    Second Lieutenant Tracy Lynn Alger, USA
    Specialist Christine M. Ndururi, USA
    Staff Sergeant Carletta S. Davis, USA
    Specialist Ashley Sietsema, IL ARNG
    Sergeant Tracy R. Birkman, USA
    Specialist Keisha M. Morgan, USA
    Petty Officer 1st Class Cherie L. Morton, USN
    Lance Corporal Casey L. Casanova, USMC
    Specialist Mary J. Jaenichen, USA
    Corporal Jessica A. Ellis, USA
    Technical Sergeant jackie L. Larsen, USAF
    Private First Class Jennifer L. Cole, USA
    Private Janelle F. King, USA

    Operation Enduring Freedom
    Sergeant Jeannette L. Winters, USMC
    Staff Sergeant Anissa A. Shero, USAF
    First Lieutenant Tamara Lee Archuleta, USAF
    Specialist Julie R. Hickey, USAR
    Specialist Chrystal G. Stout, SC ARNG
    Sergeant Major Barbaralien Banks, USA
    First Lieutenant Laura M. Walker, USA
    Senior Airman Alecia S. Good, USAF
    Sergeant Wakkuna A. Jackson, USA
    Sergeant First Class Merideth L. Howard, USAR
    Petty Officer 2nd Class Laquita Pate James, USN
    Specialist Ciara M. Durkin, MA ARNG
    Seaman Katrina R. Grady, USN
     
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    I remember the day when Carrie died. I wasn't in her unit, but I went driving by the vehicle she was in when it was hit. I had also read the incident report and went to high-school with another girl who was in Carrie's unit.
     
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    Military sexual assaults double the national average...
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    AP sources: Meeting on sexual assaults in military
    May 8,`13 WASHINGTON (AP) -- The White House is inviting lawmakers over to discuss the growing number of sexual assaults in the military.
    See also:

    Pentagon’s annual report shows sexual assault numbers up sharply
    May 7, 2013 - One day after the Air Force’s chief of sexual assault prevention and response branch was himself arrested on a charge of sexual battery, the Pentagon released a new report that sexual assaults in the military are occurring at an alarming rate of more than 70 per day.
     
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    SPV protects military sexual assault victims...
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    New corps of military lawyers help rape victims
    March 30, 2014 — As an Army general faced court-martial for sexual assault this month, a young military lawyer sat each day in the front row of the gallery, a few feet behind the prosecutors.
     

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