I'm not necessarily saying abortion-seeking women should get the death penalty, but it's hard to feel sorry for a mother who's trying to kill her own little unborn baby. And could the deaths of a handful of law-breaking women serve as a deterrent against other like-minded women who are also considering abortion, thus saving countless more little human lives from brutal destruction? I think this is a fair question to ask, because pro-choicers are always saying that if abortion is banned again, hundreds of thousands of women will die from back alley abortions. First, that simply isn't true. But more to the point, what about the handful of women that might actually die, exactly? Are we supposed to allow millions of innocent human lives to be exterminated just so a few women won't die as a result of breaking the law? The truth is that, despite what zealous supporters of abortion often claim, not that many women actually died from back alley abortions when abortions were much more restricted than they are today. http://afterabortion.org/2011/the-truth-about-back-alley-abortions/
Women should never be forced to go underground for healthcare and risk death. In fact she shouldn't be forced to remain pregnant against her will and also be forced to risk medical complications and the possibility of death from childbirth. With every pregnancy there is the risk of complications and death, therefore she should have a choice in whether or not she wishes to continue it and take on those risks or instead choose abortion and accept the risks she faces in having a safe, legal abortion.
It is not just those that die Sepsis, air embolism, haemorrhage, shock, perforation of the uterus etc Now the question is not really "do they deserve death" but "what would drive a woman to risk death?" Countries where abortion is illegal and the results are widely known women still seek abortion and the real question is why? What would be so terrifying that you would risk death and disability?
No they don't get what they deserve, they were trying to end a pregnancy and I believe it should be legal so they don't have to get it in back alleys and so it can be done as early as possible. I like how you are probably pro-life yet are saying you don't mind the fact of woman dying in back alleys to serve as a deterrent. This is sick by all possible means of the word.
Even if you don't believe these women deserve something quite as bad as death, the fact that these women were breaking the law to abort their own babies should at least detract somewhat from the fact that they died. What I mean, just as an example, is that the deaths of 10 women ilegally seeking abortions may only be as bad as the deaths of 7 innocent babies. All this should be taken into consideration when weighing any potential deaths from back alley abortions in deciding whether or not abortion should be legalised.
No, I am just pointing out that when some of these women do die, it is not not quite as bad, and so it's not worth allowing abortions to save these few women. Don't forget that the person actually killing these women is the abortion doctor. You are the one that wants fetuses to die. Didn't you write in another thread that it is okay to abort the "fetus" at any stage in the pregnancy? That's really creepy.
No, I have never said that. 'Creepy' is attributing words to others that they never said. Why don't you go do something useful like go rehabilitate a rapist so there'll be one less woman pregnant after being raped by a scumbag.
Women rarely, extremely rarely, hardly ever, die from legal and therefore, safe abortions. So if some group lobbies and succeeds in eliminating safe legal abortions, they share in the blame for a woman's death from illegal abortion. Don't try to weasel out of your responsibility, stand up and take it like a man. We will see if it's not as bad for a woman to die from illegal abortion when it's YOUR daughter, sister, wife, niece, etc.
Or, we can just raise our daughters with some morals to chose not to have sex which could lead to pregnancy until they are ready. And also teach them that a baby in their tummy is still a human being and not some slab of tissue that needs to be removed on a whim and there wont be the need for back alley abortions and I wont worry about my daughter dieing as a result of her poor decission.
If you have a daughter or son, then you know they don't always make the decision you want them to make. If you are a parent, then you know that sometimes they reject your teaching. You must also know that "teaching your children to NOT have sex" hasn't been successful in all of mankind's history.
It was more successful before liberal beliefs of "free love" and "there is no God" came along. Lets see, what was the teen pregnancy rate while teaching religion in public school was still legal compared to now?
Please, you can't blame teenagers' having sex on liberals, LOL. In the old days, that is the 1950's, girls who got pregnant outside of wedlock either got married a la shotgun style, went "away to visit an aunt" and gave birth secretly, or had an illegal abortion. So we don't really know what the rate of pregnancy was, although we do know it was significant. But you should know teaching ABOUT religion in schools is still perfectly legal, while teaching religion was never legal, even though it happened, just like abortion.
Here's a little more info, just in case you are persisting in your delusion that sex before marriage is a new idea. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/1628711...had-premarital-sex-survey-finds/#.UJAPX29LXQ0 More than nine out of 10 Americans, men and women alike, have had premarital sex, according to a new study. The high rates extend even to women born in the 1940s, challenging perceptions that people were more chaste in the past. This is reality-check research, said the studys author, Lawrence Finer. Premarital sex is normal behavior for the vast majority of Americans, and has been for decades.
Has no-one read Dickens? Abortion has been around since well before the pyramids, and in fact so has contraception http://books.google.com.au/books?hl...orical records abortion contraception&f=false http://books.google.com.au/books?hl...orical records abortion contraception&f=false http://books.google.com.au/books?hl...orical records abortion contraception&f=false
Not really that surprising. First its your fetus you want dead, then its me. Who will it be next ?? Some members in this forum do not hold human life in very high regard apparently: http://www.politicalforum.com/abortion/267900-yes-human-life-worthless.html
Of course not. However I suspect you would say yes, which would also mean the fetus "gets what it deserves" also. Another pathetic lifer OP.
Ending a pregnancy...sounds easy and not threatening.but substitute the work kill and its closer to the reality of what abortion is. Abortion is hiring someone to kill a living human being. Ending a pregnancy=the ect of killing Even PP said that the back alley was over exaggerating the truth. Should we make shooting crake legal because we know some will die from doing it? If a woman takes matters into her own hands it is her fault...no one elses. This is the pat she chose.
Anders this shows their side doesn't it? They don't care about life...can you imagine what else they condone.
And there lies your problem: You spend way too much time and energy IMAGINING, instead of simply depending upon the facts, i.e. the direct statements of the posters, rather than your IMAGINATION of what they would say.
