worse than Hiroshima!

the Bush admin dropped white phosphorous on Fallughia.



It was a war CRIME.


white phosphorous causes these types of birth defects.


It was used as an anti personel weapon which burns right through a human being.

Bush and the republicans that backed him melted babies to death in Fallughia.


all TOTAL provable FACT

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallujah,_The_Hidden_Massacre



Fallujah, The Hidden Massacre is a documentary film by Sigfrido Ranucci and Maurizio Torrealta which first aired on Italy's RAI state television network on November 8, 2005. The film documents the use of weapons that the documentary asserts are chemical weapons, particularly the use of incendiary bombs, and alleges indiscriminate use of violence against civilians and children by military forces of the United States of America in the city of Fallujah in Iraq during the Fallujah Offensive of November 2004.

The film's primary themes are:
Establishing a case for war crimes against civilians committed by the United States.
Documenting evidence for the use of chemical devices by the US military.
Documenting other human rights abuses by American forces and their Iraqi counterparts.

 

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/u-s-official-admits-phosphorus-used-as-weapon-in-iraq-1.557818





U.S. official admits phosphorus used as weapon in Iraq


CBC News Posted: Nov 16, 2005 5:26 AM ET| Last Updated: Nov 16, 2005 9:57 AM ET


Smoke from the Fallujah railroad station after U.S. bombing, early Nov. 9, 2004. (AP file Photo / Anja Niedringhaus)

A spokesman for the U.S. military has admitted that soldiers used white phosphorus as an "incendiary weapon" while trying to flush out insurgents in the northern Iraqi city of Fallujah last year.

"White phosphorus is a conventional munition," Lt.-Col. Barry Venable told the British Broadcasting Corporation. "It is not a chemical weapon. They are not outlawed or illegal."

He added that though used mostly to provide smokescreens and flashes of light, in the Fallujah battle, "it was used as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants."

High-ranking U.S. officials had earlier insisted that the substance, which can burn skin to the bone, was used only to help illuminate battle scenes.

"U.S. forces do not use napalm or white phosphorus as weapons," the American ambassador to London, Robert Tuttle, wrote in a letter to the Independent newspaper.

■FROM NOV. 8, 2004: 'We will be successful,' Rumsfeld warns Fallujah insurgents


An unknown number of Iraqi women and children died of phosphorus burns during the hostilities, Italian documentary makers covering the battle for Fallujah have claimed.

 

Wrong those are not facts at all nor probable.

WP has been in use since WWII maybe even WWI.

It causes some very severe injuries it is true but there is no evidence it causes birth defects. WP is primarily used for marking targets for others weapons and for generating smoke. Although it has also been used as an anti personel weapon on some occasions it is legal and not a war crime.

 

Keys words are alleges and asserts.

In other words unfounded

 

Bush admitted it in public

ITS FACT

 

You made several broad accusations no one puccally admitted to such broad things

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4483690.stm



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US general defends phosphorus use





The United States' most senior general has defended the use of weapons containing white phosphorus in Iraq

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How can you NOT KNOW this is FACT?


because your a republican who doesn't ever do FACTS

 

He stated it as fact.

Not an admission.

It has been in use for decades it is not a war crime.

It causes no birth defects and is not a chemical weapon.

 

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Smoke from the Fallujah railroad station after U.S. bombing, early Nov. 9, 2004. (AP file Photo / Anja Niedringhaus)

A spokesman for the U.S. military has admitted that soldiers used white phosphorus as an "incendiary weapon" while trying to flush out insurgents in the northern Iraqi city of Fallujah last year.

"White phosphorus is a conventional munition," Lt.-Col. Barry Venable told the British Broadcasting Corporation. "It is not a chemical weapon. They are not outlawed or illegal."

He added that though used mostly to provide smokescreens and flashes of light, in the Fallujah battle, "it was used as an incendiary weapon against enemy combatants."







see you just ignore FACTS you don't like

 

I am not a republican.

Apparently you do not know the difference between bush and a general


The facts do not support your overall claims

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


hes wrong and its is illegal

 

This is a chicken little thread.
DU isn't even in the neighborhood of the ballpark of dropping Atom bombs.
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-science-of-the-silver/

 

It is you ignoring fact.

I told you already it has been used.

Your post merely supports what I stated and contradicts your earlier claims

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No it is not illegal sorry

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus_use_in_Iraq#White_phosphorus



Use in Fallujah[edit]

In April 2004, during the First Battle of Fallujah, Darrin Mortenson of California's North County Times reported that white phosphorus was used as an incendiary weapon. Embedded with the 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, Mortenson described a Marine mortar team using a mixture of white phosphorus and high explosives to shell a cluster of buildings where insurgents had been spotted throughout the week.[4]

In November 2004, during the Second Battle of Fallujah, Washington Post reporters embedded with Task Force 2-2, Regimental Combat Team 7, wrote on November 9, 2004 that "Some artillery guns fired white phosphorus (WP) rounds that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water." [5] Insurgents reported being attacked with a substance that melted their skin, a reaction consistent with white phosphorus burns.[5]

On November 9, 2005 the Italian state-run broadcaster Radiotelevisione Italiana S.p.A. aired a documentary titled "Fallujah, The Hidden Massacre", alleging that the United States' used white phosphorus as a weapon in Fallujah causing insurgents and civilians to be killed or injured by chemical burns. The filmmakers further claimed that the United States used incendiary MK-77 bombs in violation of Protocol III of the 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. According to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, quoted in the documentary, white phosphorus is permitted for use as an illumination device and as a weapon with regard to heat energy, but not permitted as an offensive weapon with regard to its toxic chemical properties.[6][7] The documentary also included footage which purported to be of white phosphorus being fired from helicopters over Fallujah. It also quoted journalist Giuliana Sgrena, who had been in Fallujah, as a testimony. [8]

On November 15, 2005, U.S. Department of Defense spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Barry Venable confirmed to the BBC that white phosphorus had been used as an incendiary antipersonnel weapon in Fallujah. Venable stated "When you have enemy forces that are in covered positions that your high explosive artillery rounds are not having an impact on and you wish to get them out of those positions, one technique is to fire a white phosphorus round into the position because the combined effects of the fire and smoke - and in some case the terror brought about by the explosion on the ground - will drive them out of the holes so that you can kill them with high explosives."[9][10]

On November 16, 2005, BBC News reported that an article published in the March–April 2005 issue of Field Artillery, a U.S. Army magazine, noted that white phosphorus had been used during the battle. According to the article written by a captain, a first lieutenant, and a sergeant, "WP [White Phosphorus] proved to be an effective and versatile munition. We used it for screening missions at two breeches and, later in the fight, as a potent psychological weapon against the insurgents in trench lines and spider holes where we could not get effects on them with HE [High Explosives]. We fired "shake and bake" missions at the insurgents, using WP to flush them out and HE to take them out."[6] BBC News noted that the article had been discovered by bloggers after the US ambassador in London, Robert Holmes Tuttle, stated that US forces do not use napalm or white phosphorus as weapons.[6]

On November 22, 2005, the Iraqi government stated it would investigate the use of white phosphorus in the battle of Fallujah.[11]

On November 30, 2005, General Peter Pace stated that white phosphorus munitions were a "legitimate tool of the military" used to illuminate targets and create smokescreens, saying "It is not a chemical weapon. It is an incendiary. And it is well within the law of war to use those weapons as they're being used, for marking and for screening".[1]

 

What is wrong with white phosphorous?

Why not just claim that flame throwers and napalm bombs are weapons of mass destruction?

They certainly are not by the way.

 

Bush LIED us into this war.


he was evil


why are you defending evil?

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just lying about the facts wont win you any elections

 

http://www.democracynow.org/2005/11/17/pentagon_reverses_position_and_admits_u





The U.S. government has now admitted its troops used white phosphorus as an incendiary weapon against Iraqis during the assault on Fallujah a year ago. Chemical weapons experts say such attacks are in violation of international law banning the use of chemical weapons. We speak with columnist George Monbiot and the news director of RAI TV, the Italian TV network that produced the film "Fallujah: The Hidden Massacre." [includes rush transcript]


The U.S. government has now admitted its troops used white phosphorus as an incendiary weapon against Iraqis during the assault on Fallujah a year ago.

Chemical weapons experts say such attacks are in violation of international law banning the use of chemical weapons.

Peter Kaiser, of the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons, said, "Chemicals used against humans or animals that cause harm or death through the toxic properties of the chemical are considered chemical weapons."

White phosphorus is often compared to napalm because it combusts spontaneously when exposed to oxygen and can burn right through skin to the bone.

The Pentagon"s admission comes after a week of denials that it used white phosphorus as a weapon in Fallujah. While reporters have noted the use of white phosphorus since the war began, it only became a major story last Tuesday when Italian state broadcaster RAI TV aired the documentary "Fallujuah: The Hidden Massacre."

 

So why are you lying about the weapons used?

Just because he lied does not justify your lies and the facts provided be you wrong.

The justification for the war and the fighting are two separate issues.

DU, WP and even napalm are all legal and legitimate weapons get over it.

Those are facts

 

I have given documentation.

you have given nothing but untruths

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http://www.bing.com/search?q=The+U.S.+government+has+now+admitted+its+troops+used+white+phosphorus+as+an+incendiary+weapon+against+Iraqis+&form=PRUSEN&pc=msnHomeST&mkt=en-us&refig=87f8cc93984a4d5995b7c35bb8466657

 

That's where you are wrong you have given no documentation you have only repeated yourself and found some quotes which agree with you.

WP is not a chemical weapon nor illegal.

Those are facts you run from and will not address.

 

White phosphorous has never been banned as a general weapon of war.

And has never been defined as a chemical weapon.

As for Bush lying?

Total BS. The CIA Director told him directly TWICE that evidence in favor of WMDs in Iraq was a "slam dunk".

What are you supposed to do if the American CIA Director tells you that?

 

"They"

Who is "they"?

 

The japanese

 

OK!so all Japanese men, women and children fight to the death if the US went with their original plans so we use a nuke-bomb and kill them all in easier way!ha?I really don't understand U when U talk about killing innocents in very easy way!so that shouldn't be weird if we hear US is going to use a nuke-bomb again!yes?US is producing them to use?!?!as I said today in our ludicrous world police, thief, and judge are one person?!!
US always have this right to kill others but if they even think about defends they are terrorist!
the bombs were NOT meant to intimidate Japan into surrendering with fewer(!!!) casualties!it brought about 220,000 casualties!and Japan was as weak as that couldn't resist a lot.so US DIDN'T HAVE TO TEST IT"S NEW WEAPON AND KILL 220,000 INNOCENTS in some seconds.also they accepted the end of war after first bomb.read history detailed.

HA!!have U even read them?!!
also about effect of these weapons lots of other explanation mentioned.U've missed them all!
by the way, that be weapons of mass destruction or not [which is!] there is no difference for U.in Your viewpoint US had this right to use Nuke-bomb and always have!!so I guess nothing is going to change your mind