Would any Trumpette like to take a swing at this?

Their narratives, not there narratives.

What was asinine about the Orange Turd claiming Google's methodology cost him millions of votes while ignoring the impact of the massive social media campaign Russia carried out on his behalf?

 

Someone said it best after the 2016 election

The russians hacked hillarys GPS and she could not find the state of wisconsen

 

Imagine my surprise that you blindly accept research that fits well in to the right wing narrative. Too bad the research has been debunked.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-google-search-bias-elections-20190322-story.html

 

Take a swing? I'd rather sit back and watch The Hanging Man Dance. Do you actually know anyone who's vote was swayed by a meme? I mean when you get right down to brass tacks that is what you are saying, isn't it? Russians took out some FB ads and swayed some Hillary fans to vote for Trump instead, right?

Everyone I know that has an opinion on who is better is firmly entrenched. Is that not true for you as well?

 

No. But why do you so readily dismiss the idea the massive social media propaganda campaign that reached at least 126M people could have effected those who were undecided leading in to the election?
Survey: Trump won big among voters who decided in the last 2 weeks of the campaign
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/21/14025198/trump-undecided-final-weeks-survey
America's undecided voters: could they swing the whole 2016 election?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...rs-election-2016-hillary-clinton-donald-trump
The Invisible Undecided Voter
Both reporters and models missed the importance of undecided and third-party voters.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-invisible-undecided-voter/

It's plain to see how badly Trumpette's want to ignore the substance of this topic while hypocritically accepting the Liar-in-Chief's accusations.

 

It's not likely there were 126 undecided people let alone 126 MILLION undecided people. Everyone had a camp and no meme was about to make them leave it.

 

Imagine my surprise that you offer a rebuttal different from your original point. Quick! If this topic is losing get another topic.

For the simple record. your accusation was NOT the google didn't politically adjust the searches (which I responded I do not know if they do or not), but that the Russian media effort was every bit as effective as any google manipulation -- which I responded..... horse ****. That was not any "right wing narrative." That was a logical media narrative.

 

What’s the issue? If true Google should be in trouble...why would you want them to be?

Russia was investigated and indicted. Facebook and Google should be investigated as well.

Why don’t you support the investigation into the hacking of our democracy?

 

So.......IOW, your mind is made up don't confuse you with the facts.

 

Yes, I realize you ineffectually responded HS. Maybe you should have used upper case letters to really drive the point home. Unfortunately, your "logical media narrative" is completely baseless. Founded on absolutely nothing but your opinion.

BTW, "the Russian media effort was every bit as effective as any google manipulation" is an assumption you made based on the debunked idea Google does in fact manipulate. My point was why is it OK for Don to point to a hack's research that claims Google robbed the Conman-in-Chief of votes while dismissing out of hand the notion Russian social media propaganda could have worked in his favor?

 

Google doesn't manipulate what you see at all.

 

Why do you support Google colluding with the DNC to affect the election? Why are you ok with Google using it's massive money chest to buy politicans and use it's monopoly power to influence voters?

These are a couple simply questions.

 

There is no basis in Epstein's research for Trump's claim that the alleged bias might have affected "16 million" votes. Epstein did testify in July that big tech companies in general could potentially shift "upwards of 15 million votes" in the 2020 election, but he didn't claim that this happened in 2016.
In the Monday interview, Epstein rejected Trump's claim that Google "manipulated" votes in 2016. He said he does not have firm evidence even that Google intentionally manipulated its search algorithm or results, let alone votes themselves.
"I don't have any evidence that Google manipulated anything. I just have evidence that there was this bias -- highly statistically significantly bias," he said.
Google said Epstein was incorrect in his claims of bias.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/19/politics/trump-google-manipulated-votes-claim/index.html

 

Google is an arm of the Democratic Party. It attempts to influence the electorate.

How successful is it at swaying the public to the left? I can’t quantify that.

 

Poor Trump-little-dick.. he's been a victim for 70 years.

 

When did Texans begin to glorify liars and weaklings?

 

$46,000 in ads from the Russians supersedes about $46+ million in ads from the Democrats? Really? Democrat donors need to get after their benefactors for wasting their money then. If $46K in ads can get Trump elected, but $46 million can't get Hillary elected, there seems to be some undisclosed overhead there. Democrat donors need to demand more for their money than that.

 

I don’t glorify anyone.

But I know the U.S. is better off under Trump than any joker in the Democratic clown car. Ideas like full medical coverage for illegals are idiotic. Liberalism will kill us.

 

As long as the country is filled with people who believe unsubstantiated nonsense like that the more likely it is the Orange Fraud is not the last crooked, corrupt, clueless demagogue who will be elected.

 

Even the guy who did the study says that's an inaccurate representation. And Trump is claiming that this "manipulation" means he "actually won by more votes" than he originally thought. This means he's either dumber than a box of hair or he thinks his followers are.

 

What we have on this thread, and others like it, is the leftist promoting a billion dollar uber rich monopoly colluding with a political party, to interfere and affect our democratic process. It's quite sick. It reminds me of a famous quote: “Our way of taking power and using it would have been inconceivable without the radio and the airplane,” Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels claimed in August 1933.

 

What is it with you people being completely blind to everything Russia did beyond buying Facebook ads? Reread that post. Read it carefully. Take your damned blinders off for once.

 

Because there is ZERO proof it changed any actual votes. They didn’t tamper with machines. That would be a completely different story. What did change votes was the 24/7 barrage from nearly every media outlet that Trump is a bad man. Much of it using misrepresented quotes, snipped video taken out of context or flat out lies and unsubstantiated accusations based on pure opinion.

The reality is, Steve Colbert and other late night hosts had more of an effect on someone’s vote than a bunch of stupid memes and obvious trollish Facebook ads. CNN in every airport repeating the same slanted BS 24/7 actually effected votes. Video dig up from the archives to skewer Trump weeks before the election, changed more votes.

Russia is DONE! It’s over. The NYT has finally given up and have switched now to the U.S. is a racist nation screed. Let’s see how that works.

 

Let's hear the professor in his own words: https://amac.us/liberal-professor-warns-google-manipulating-voters-on-a-massive-scale/

2.6 million additional votes for Clinton in 2016....wow......through bias, manipulated voters....

"on a massive scale!"

 

There is no "manipulation". Google does its duty to weed out fake news.

Now, of course, the Trump campaign relies heavily on lies and fake news. Especially by Russian operatives. But there is a way that they can use to get around this: tell the truth!

Trump and his followers seem to believe that this is too much to ask.

But I do find the number interesting. 2.6 million. This means that's the number of votes that they feel the Russia fake news campaign would have swung in their favor from Google alone. One would imagine at least a similar number of votes from others like Tweeter or Facebook which were not as diligent.