Wow, does Nathan Deal have a deal for you in Georgia

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  1. bwk

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    http://on.msnbc.com/1dL4izF I almost fell out of my chair when I watched this. This in my opinion is unprecedented. Instead of helping 600,000 poor people in the state of Georgia get health coverage for its citizens and prevent hospitals from closing, Nathan Deal wants to role back a law signed by Ronald Reagan back in 1986 that says no hospital can turn down anyone for a medical emergency. If you are having a heart attack or some other medical emergency, he wants the hospitals to have the ability and power to turn these people away to die. He would rather do that than to take Obamacare funds from the federal government which offers to pay 100% of the cost to the poor and to the state, so these hospitals won't have to close down because so many cannot pay and their overhead is too great. But, Nathan Deal said no to the Obamacare money for the sole reason that he hates Obama, of which we all know why. So, to the 600,000 without health insurance for hates sake by one guy, Nathan Deal has a deal and a message for you; "GO DIE".
     
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    Right-wing social engineering.
     
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    Republican thinking at its best.
     
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    Looks like Ronald Reagan was more liberal than Obama. :clapping:
     
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    This is the very reason i'm running against Governor Deal this year. as a BLACK I have watched Deal as he has continued to declare hatard upon POOR & BLACK people for the last four years. If you think that is something, on this past Dr. King Day, Governor Deal slithers into the very church Dr. King preached from and said, that he wants to HONOR Dr. King on the State level. Now unless i dropped into a coma in the past FOUR years, he had FOUR years to HONOR Dr, King. this is FIST RAPING the Legacy of Dr. King. So we here in Georgia are well aquainted of Governor Deals' TREACHEROUSNESS.
     
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    I never expected much response for Nathan Deals idea for mass death panels for his own citizens of the state, but I surely would have thought someone would have come to Reagan's defense to straighten out this Socialism label he now has. Oh well! I enjoy the sounds of crickets anyway. They have nothing they can argue about.
     
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    Obamacare cut the federal funding that went along with that law's requirements. They used the funds to finance the expansion of medicaid, so the democrats have screwed millions of poor people to benefit a million poor people, and when people notice, they blame the republicans. If you love the PPACA so much, why not take ownership of the glaring flaws of it?
     
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    This has nothing to do with what governor Deal is doing. You are talking about the schematics of funding. You never addressed the thread. The federal government has communicated with Deal to fully finance 600,000 uninsured people to keep hospitals from closing and giving folks the chance to have their own insurance. And, the only thing Deal wants to do is strike down a socialist bill Ronald Reagan signed in 1986 that helped those who had an emergency and were in need of immediate help got it. But, to curb that excessive overhead to hospitals, Obamacare could help do that, therefore saving the hospitals.

    But you decide to switch gears and the subject by claiming funds are being cut and are being used for something else. It's pretty obvious you are not going to address the socialism of Reagan, or the death panel mentality of Deal.

    Also, since you do not want to address the thread, can you prove millions are going without altogether to help this other million you are referring to? You know, like links?
     
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    If you take the estimate of the number of uninsured people before the ACA, roughly 48 million, and subtract the number of people who get medicaid expansion--a gigantic 2 million then that leaves millions of people still in the lurch. (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...ment-under-obamacare-at-fewer-than-2-million/). The issue is the the PPACA does not help rural hospitals nor would medicaid expansion because as has been discussed on another thread, medicaid has less than a 100% of cost reimbursement rate and the funding for the expansion has already slashed the federal subsidy to these hospitals that helped them to be able to afford to treat uninsured people.

    I could care less about the socialism of Reagan who died like 100 years ago or something. But zero GOP votes enacted a law the slashed funding for indigent services at hospitals and forces hospitals to take a loss on every medicaid patient that walks through the door. That was all done by the democrats. Your bed, you sleep in it.
     
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    Your post is so full of (*)(*)(*)(*). Are you kidding me? You seriously believe this? The REPUBLICAN governors that refused additional Medicaid funding are now watching as hospitals close up shop because they can't afford to pay the bills.

    So naturally, the ACA is to blame because these asshat governors don't give a damn about the people they serve.

    Good riddance to them in their next elections.
     
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    Your post and link really have no merit as yet, as we are in the infancy of sign up. You can guessamate until the cows come home. 48 million doesn't necessarily mean 48 million families. If we average 4 members per household that's 12 million families potentially could get coverage. We are still in the sign up faze. Even if only half those families sign up, that is potentially 24 million people covered. When doing math averages, you should consider all variables.
     
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    Republicans: creators of death panels.
     
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    If I run a restaurant where most of my customers only have to pay me 87 cents for a hamburger that costs me a dollar to make and I am forced to provide free food to the homeless and the government that once paid me to provide that food still requires it but does not pay for it, how long do you think my restaurant will stay in business and how many employees do you think I will have when their checks don't clear?

    even the CBO obamacare reports discusses that it's implementation will cost healthcare jobs. Where do you think those now former employees are going to be coming from--The Ronald McDonald House across the street from the hospitals?

    The only person kidding you seems to be yourself. Hospitals operates on about a 5% profit margin pre-PPACA. You are not going to force them to lower their costs, pay them less than their new costs, lower health insurance costs the previously offset the losses already being taken on providing services to the poor and indigent, remove the federal subsidies for indigent services, and not have a system that strips the "Care" from 'Healthcare" and not lose businesses like, oh I don't know, already broke rural hospitals.
     
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    Where is the Obamacare report that says it will cost healthcare jobs?
     
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    Comparing a non-essential service to an essential service is dishonest.
     
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    Republicans and Conservatives (in general) attack Blacks, other minorities and the poor. Just look at the policies they promote; it is very evident.
     
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    If Deal had really wanted to honor Dr. King, he would have taken the federal funding to help those who need the help the most. Instead, the poor have a looming death sentence staring them in the face when the time comes for a life threatening emergency, and no one will see them. Deal has decided to play God by appointing himself judge, jury, and executioner to the lives of hundreds of thousands. Die well my poor brothers and sisters while Nathan Deal will certainly get all the credit for what happens to them from here on out.
     

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