Yale honors the work of a 9-year-old Black girl whose neighbor reported her to police

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  1. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Where's the link? Highly doubtful, it was called in as suspicious, or trouble making activity, but probably as a simple nuisance-- causing drivers to stop and block the road. Or perhaps, some hopelessly angry at the world type, reporting the girls for not having a business permit.
     
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    Can't explain how it is "bigotry" HUH? I thought so. Gonna dodge the question again in your next response?
     
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    I wish I could be as easily entertained, by someone who can't seem to figure out that the sex of the caller, Gordon Lawshe, is male-- even after being corrected, and with a picture available, in post #3.
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    Does that look like a "she," to you?



    And he's lived across the street from this girl for 8 years! Just curious-- would that be enough time for you, to get over your fear of this:

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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who cares about the gender of the caller? Why are you people so obsessed with genders? Also what am I scared of? Spotted lantern flies? Of course I'm scared of them. They are an invasive species
     
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    Just as I had said-- there was no reason for police to respond to that other call, thinking that it might become a physical encounter. From your link:

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    The 911 caller wanted a gang of potential scofflaws on Gig Harbor’s Peacock Hill checked out Thursday afternoon.

    The alleged crime: Beverage selling without supervision.
     
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    Yeah, just like the case in the op. See, old people call the police on both white and black people.
     
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    Now, we see the real "pathetic" excuses and "sad race baiting," in your defenses of the racist actions.
     
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    But did the ones calling on the white kids, suggest that the kids were possibly dangerous? From the OP:
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    "I don't know what the hell she's doing. Scares me, though," Lawshe added.
    <End>

    Show me the quote of the caller who says of a lemonade stand, run by white kids, "Scares me," and I will concede the argument to you.
     
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    Because it was only due to the color of her skin, that this politician claimed to be scared, by her actions; too petrified, apparently, to go ask her what she was doing, as one might expect as the far more likely way this would have played out, had it been a nine year old, white girl.
     
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    you still cannot prove it to be a "racist" action. Just because you assume it is doesn't make it so.
     
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    It could have played out exactly the same. In the phone call, the word "black" would be replaced by "white".
    It sounds like you are just making GUESSES that it would have been different if she were white.
     
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    Reasonable guesses-- with far higher probabilities, than most of of your own guesses, here on the Forum. I mean, sure, I suppose it is possible that this guy suffers from delusional paranoia. In that case, however, one would not expect this to be the only case of his reporting his irrational fears to authorities. And, had that been the case, it is unimaginable that he would still be holding elected office.
     
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    Amazing, this thread has a definition of racism in it, and then many examples of why it is so hard, if not impossible, to change the continuation of racism.
    This thread shouldn't be a point of contention but one of expanded understanding.
     
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    I mean, based on all of the information in the OP it sounds like this guy thought a kid was spray painting stuff and called it in and you and other folks seem to turn this into some racial thing.
     
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    Just an interesting note, but if you feel the need to call 911 on a 9-year old for any reason and you remark that it "scares you, though," then you may have other issues you should work on, especially as part of the city council.
     
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    You have to admit that it is odd for someone to call the police on a little girl who was collecting spotted butterflies of a rare, evasive species in her area. Even the police who were called were baffled and handled the situation very professionally. A good mark for the police in this instance. And finally, to top it off, the parents of the 9-year-old have lived across the street from the person who calls 911 for 8 years. There is a good probability he has seen the little girl and yet he still called. Hence why you have these being reported by local and national news. But nowhere in the article does it mention the R-word, not even the OP made that clear.

    We have had people call the police when a black person was walking their dog in Central Park, a FedEx driver for being detained because he was "suspicious" and so forth. In urban legend, they are called Karens and Kims depending on if it is a female or male who makes these absurd reports to the police. Some who have, like the woman in Central Park, were charged with making a false report. Not sure about this one though.

    Is this fake racism? No. Is it racism, very likely. It is the only plausible explanation. Or the other option is pure ignorance. But to be afraid of a 9 year old black girl doing this and calling the police is happening more and more simply because the person is black. And that is where the racism occurs. The prejuduice that all black people are criminals and up to no good.
     
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    What a sad treatise on a fragile and little man.

    What sort of fearful, need a safe space sort of fellow is this who calls the police on an African American girl playing outside?
     
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    How does one prove intent is racist, without an admission from accused?

    And yeah, assuming so is pretty much all one needs to do in this case.

    Or he could have walked outside and said hi, what are you up to?
     
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    He lived across the street for 8 years where the girl lived. So it is highly probably he has seen her playing and knows what she looks like. My first reaction would be to call her parents or to walk up to her and see what in the hell she was doing. But he didn't do that, didn't he.

    But aresol cans or spray bottles is not the same as paint. And paint does leave a distinguishing mark on the trees depending on the color. bright colors are more easily seen.
     
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    Nice race baiting attempt. The caller didn't say "There's a black girl playing outside".
    Here is the conversation:
    There's a little Black woman walking, spraying stuff on the sidewalks and trees on Elizabeth and Florence," Lawshe told the dispatcher, according to a call obtained by CNN.
    "I don't know what the hell she's doing. Scares me, though,"

    I love how you tried to spin it though. NICE!
     
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    Since her own video evidence showed him that the was culpable, then yes, she did the right thing. But the particulars is that it does not matter who you are, black, white, or purple with pink pokadots, if you are older and you beat up a kid, your arse should get arrested, period. I don't care if you are a descendent of someone important, politically or financially or whatever your pedigree is.
     
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    Have you ever faced racism in your life? How do you know racism exists very little today?
     
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    Well, good for the cops not overblowing things, but in reality, some towns and cities have ordinances where if you are selling lemonade on the street, you need a vendor's license to do so. A while back, there was a thread of this very same thing, and the conservatives on this board made that point and supported the police officer's decision to arrest a little black person for illegally selling lemonade.

    But can you imagine the 911 call if this was a little black girl. It would go something like this:

    911 operator: 911 what is your emergency?
    Caller: There is this little girl across the street selling something. I don't know what it is. But it scares me and I think the public is in danger. Send police help.
    911 operator: Do you know what the person is selling?
    Caller: I am not going to ask. The person looks scary and there are some unusual characters around the stand buying the stuff. It may be drugs.
    911 Operator: Are there any weapons?
    Caller: I don't see any, but there could be
    911 Operator: What is your address
    Caller: My address is 123 Dumbasss Street, Nowhere, NJ, 00793
    911 Operator: Stay in the home, the police have been dispatched.
    Caller: thank you.

    that is how it would go to get the police to come by stating you are scared and that the public is in danger. You don't know what it is but you intentionally failed to mention its a lemonade stand while making gross assumptions about black people in general without saying it outright.

    Hence, your little post does not null and void DEFleiming;'s post.
     
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    It does make one wonder why anyone would go to such a great extent to defend racism.
     
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