Yep, it can happen in U.S., Ocasio-Cortez is proof.

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  1. Mike12

    Mike12 Well-Known Member

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    Many people believe Unites States is immune to falling to socialism and i'm not referring to what we see in Denmark, Norway, Canada or France, nope, i'm talking about the type of socialism we see today in Venezuela.

    Ocasio-Cortez has charisma, is rambunctious and has no fear BUT she is clueless, she is unexperienced and has deep hatred for white men and the rich. This is radically different from the leaders we see in sophisticated socialist countries, even Macron and Trudeau, who are young, make Ocasio-Cortez seem dumb. Ocasio-Cortez and what she represents is much more in line with someone like Chavez, a charismatic, anti-rich populist but even Chavez seemed smarter, was more experienced.

    It is beyond belief that the media is paying so much attention to such a person who clearly knows little about so many important issues and strictly appeals to emotions. This is a person who was making strong statements against Israel but when pressed in an interview, giggled and said ' i know little about that'. How can such a person even get 1 news headline? let alone all this mass media attention? I then realized, the Country is changed.

    After decades of this Country allowing millions of poor immigrants to come in (millions illegally), decades of trade policies that have decimated good blue collar middle class jobs what has happened is that America has become a Country of inequality and a Country with a more diverse, divided populace. Combine the much larger non-white lower-class population with a democratic party that has for years convinced this section of the US population that the rich whites are the villains, you now have a very fertile ground for a Chavez to flourish and perhaps even take the white house one day. Ocasio-Cortez is no different than Chavez, listen to what she sells, how little knowledge she has and how she mainly just pits non-white poor people against everyone else. I would argue she is even worse than Chavez as Chavez was fairly smart, just followed the wrong ideology.

    As the non-white lower class population increases and the left continues to portray white rich people as the villains, there is no stopping the fall of US to a VERY dangerous leader that will destroy the Country. Chavez and Maduro have destroyed Venezuela and they rose to power by selling exactly the same stuff Ocasio-Ortez sells, wow, i didn't know it come this fast!!!
     
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    Define 'socialism' and define 'democratic socialism,' Mike12, then build a case. The OP is only a beginning and is not enough.
     
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  3. Mike12

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    answers are in my post, if you care to read.
    I'm not here to write a book, my points are clear and concise.
     
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    No, they are not, and I will leave you and your non-supported post to the vagaries of assertion.
     
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    The right wing are absolutely infatuated with AOC.
     
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    Well, democratic socialism currently means taking more from those that produce to give to those that do not.

    Basically free (nothing is free) stuff on steroids.
     
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    Yup, the GOP can't keep their eyes off AOC.
     
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    Must be why the left is so infatuated by her.
     
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    You guys elected an inexperienced buffoon as POTUS, so whatever.
     
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    We have had plenty of incompetent congress members like Louis Gohmert and Steve king but none can match the bottom of the barrel level of Dirty Donald.
     
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    Yep, those immigrants came here and picked all of our grapes.

    We still need a few to clean toilets. Maybe trump will give the toilet cleaners a waiver. :toilet::tp:
     
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    Why is the RW so threatened by a Freshman House Member who is on the fringes of her party?

    As always, AOC is Trolling the RW like a champ.

    The RW just can't quit her.

    Just forget about AOC. The Republic will survive and you will sleep better.

    Btw--Why is the RW so easy to troll?
     
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    You seem to like to focus on rich white people. Rich people come in all colors.

    Donald Trump gave large tax givaways to white people or rich people?
     
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    I'm not RW, for starters.

    Fringes? democratic party has become her, she's been sold by mainstream media as the leader of the party, she's all over the place yet she doesn't deserve more than 5 mins a week of headlines based on merit.

    I'm not that concerned about her, more concerned about the Country, how so many would worship her... A mob is growing in #'s as only a mob would support her. This pretty much assures us that 10-20 years from now, we will have a far left, socialist in office that will make Trudeau, Macron seem far right.
     
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    i don't focus on them, Ocasio-Cortez, Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Al Sharpton and pretty much all of the dems now sure have an obsession with rich white men.
     
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    Anybody who thinks AOC is the leaders of the Dems <<< :)
     
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    The reality is that we are already being exposed to a very dangerous "Leader" who is in the process of destroying our country as we speak, and he is not a socialist. We don't know how she will matriculate as it is early and she is young and inexperienced. Hopefully, she will move toward the center as time goes on.
     
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    She is the only voice that brings harsh scrutiny to the comfortable. Of course she gets outsized coverage.

    That you note that glaring obsession with media, and not the Trump all the time coverage, as a bad behaving little boy, from WAY BACK, promoting UNDEMOCRATIC ideas, shows your bias.
     
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    she's getting more press than Pelosi and Schumer and both have been forced to move far left of where they'd like to be. It's not only Ocasio-Cortez, it's also people like Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris.. they have taken over democrats party. The old guard centrists no longer have much of a voice. Back in the good old days, dems stood for something, they spent most of their time talking policy. Nowadays? just telling their base conservatives are racists, misogynists, homophobic and that they want to throw granny off the cliff and exterminate poor people. Oh, and yeah rich people are evil who need to be sucked dry of their wealth BUT ONLY IF THEY ARE WHITE. Funny, i never see dems attack rich blacks? What has happened to this party? JFK would be disgusted!

    So she's not the leader yet, but sure beating the so called leaders in headlines and she and other far left radicals have collectively taken over the party, it's clear.
     
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    LOL... you comparing media coverage of Ocasio-Cortez to media coverage of Trump? Let's go there... Trump gets more coverage but it's 99.999999% negative, never have we seen such disgraceful reporting, journalism is dead. Ocasio-Cortez gets 99.999% positive coverage.

    she's the voice that brings 'harsh scrutiny fo the comfortable'? I could say the same thing about Castro and Chavez but at least these two were smart and more knowledgeable, she isn't. This is a person than knows pretty much nothing and would be ridiculed in a debate with someone who knows history, policy and is ontop of important issues. This is why she just goes out there and calls for a 70% tax on the rich and calls out Israel but when pressed, giggles and admits 'i know little about that'.. Seriously now, she's a dummy... but America is becoming dumber so there you go..
     
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    Indeed; I fully expect her to become president some day because our collective Left have become just that stupid in regards to the lessons of history. Her stupidity and insanity is the future of this nation and our useful idiot liberals will be the ones eventually and blindly handing this nation over to her and to her fellow -- essentially equally stupid -- young crop of radicals who entered the House of Representatives with her. They are not getting similar levels of publicity but they will be helping her become president some day.
     
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    that's what i'm observing, they are grooming her....

    What i can't figure out is who are the high level power players who are in charge. Anyone with half a brain knows she's clueless and selling a very divisive social warfare ideology, very similar to what Castro and Chavez sold before they rose to power. What is she selling? war on the rich, conservatives and rich white men. I haven't heard her debate or discuss a single topic with any mastery of the issue whatsoever. The left likes to depict Trump as some idiot but Trump is 1 million times more knowledge and experienced that her, he has proven to be no dummy; in fact, it's his efficiency and productivity that really threatens the left, he has been extremely effective as president. Without question, he has gotten more done in his 2 years than Obama or Bush did in first 2 years... it's not even close.
     
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    And Castro and Chevez got a much YUGER megaphone than they deserved too. Extremes get eyeballs, which sell soap.


    But what I think might surprise you is, she is likely educated. And moar so than most right wingers. So, try debating her and run the risk of her smearing Yall good, and elevating her to the moon.
     
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    Guyzilla Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have a very Trump vocabulary, littered with STUPID's, Insanes and all manner of insult. That leaves out one thing. FACTS.
     
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    She supports democratic socialism like Sanders as shown in the nordic model. This model is a massive success. We need more like her
     

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