http://concealednation.org/2016/05/fact-gun-use-to-save-lives-outweighs-gun-use-to-murder-duh/ Thank God gun ownership is growing, concealed carry is growing, permit less carry is growing, open carry is growing and violent crime is decreasing, eh?
The number is much, much larger. The vast majority of DGU's are not even reported, as shots are not fired in most cases.
I know, you are correct but this was an example from VPC which the anti-nutters would have to argue against.
Anti-gun posters will create a new thread rather than post in this one. I predict an echo chamber here.
While I understand the intent, comparing DGU to murders is similar to the way gun control manipulate statistics and numbers to support their cause and for creating credible arguments defend gun rights based on benefit that in unnecessary. DGU must be compared against all deaths and injuries as a baseline arguement, not just murders against DGU. There are roughly just over 100,000 deaths and injuries of all types, homicides (justifiable and criminal), suicides, accidental discharge injuries, gunshots (again, justified use and criminal) per year. Stats from a pro Control site... http://smartgunlaws.org/gun-deaths-and-injuries-statistics/ Comparing that to some of even the lowest estimates, say by the National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) of roughly the same number of what they would find as reported incidents of DGU it would appear to be a wash. http://www.nap.edu/read/10881/chapter/7 Setting aside the huge DGU estimates of the likes of Kleck and Lott who have tried to estimate DGU from surveys designed to look beyond reported DGU, it can be argued the numbers reported by FBI and CDC on gun deaths and injuries annually are close to an accurate picture while those reported by the NCVS and others that only produce numbers of DCU from actual documented incidences far under estimate the true picture of DGU. This, primarily that the vast majority of DGU, unlike those killed or injured showing up in the morgue or in emergency rooms where those stats can be reliably reported, don't result in a firearm being discharged, don't result in anyone being shot, and ultimately aren't reported. The National Committee to Improve Research Information and Data on Firearms in 2004 in a critical review of all the various estimates of DGU ranging from 67,000 to 2.5 million times settled on a likely figure of north of 500,000 times per year. The CDC in their 2013 study indicated, The fact is while we can relatively reliably report gun related deaths and injuries, there are no reliable means of reporting DGU, and we must therefore develop means of estimating them from well crafted studies and surveys, most of which estimate DGU numbers far in excess of reported gun related deaths and injuries. Anti gun types always trot out the lowest numbers for DGU to bolster their arguments, discounting that most DGU, that which doesn't involve shots being fired an thus reported. They discount all of the dozens of studies of DGU estimates showing 300k to 3 million DGU because they contend those figures can't be proven and rather than working to create better methodologies to fill in the gaps they create biased methodologies to support their narratives. What is of note, in studies conducted by The National Committee to Improve Research Information and Data on Firearms and those of the CDC in 2013, they tend to lend more credibility to numbers indicated by the studies showing more than 300k of DGU annually. Andedotally, I have dissuaded more than one potential criminal simply with a gun, never having to, in this country, discharging a weapon. Only once did I report it and that was to alert the LE that someone attempted to break in my house during the day and when he saw me coming to respond with a gun he ran; I reported the incident, provided a description, and the fellow was apprehended. Turns, he had been breaking into home in the neighborhood for a couple of days. He might have been a lucky fellow, he might have made it in my house while I was there. I digress, the point is over the years I have had DGU incidents where no shots were fired and that weren't reported. I'd suggest if pro gun advocates do comparisons we try to show the real picture...we don't need to use the dishonest tactics of the gun control crowd, the numbers and the 2A are on out side.
AHHHH Man I was just funning, you should do that more often cause you'll find it doesn't matter which picture we use.... we're all just liars to them. With my picture or yours.....they are the ones that look stooopid and all.
