Your theology and a Basic Minimum Income?

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Should believers in Pro-Life support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income?

  1. I am Pro-Choice and I DO NOT support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income

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  2. I am Pro-Choice and I DO NOT support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income

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  3. I am Pro-Life and I support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income

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  4. I am Pro-Choice and I support an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income.

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  5. NO

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  6. YES

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  1. WillReadmore

    WillReadmore Well-Known Member

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    OK.

    Let's remember that abortion is also healthcare.

    Taking the lives of women OUT of the hands of the woman and her doctor and INTO the hands of government to decide whether or not to care about the woman's life is NOT OK.

    And, that is true REGARDLESS of how much money you think a pregnant woman should get paid.

    Plus, I don't see you offering death benefits for the women you want the government to allow to die.
     
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    Oh you people are Canadians? I’m sorry
     
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    The fact that the Canadian economy is so small in comparison to the American economy to my thinking means that it would be easier to demonstrate how an Unconditional Basic Minimum Income.... .financed through the brilliant Bank of Canada Policy used from 1938 to 1974... could work!

    On one level we would be proving that the ownership of the Canadian Dollar and / or the United States Dollar has been hijacked by corrupt elected officials for decades and actually centuries.

    https://bettysearlyedition.blogspot.com/2015/07/how-pierre-trudeau-turned-us-into-debt.html
    In my opinion... the influential people who convinced P. M. Pierre E. Trudeau to make such a colossal error back in 1974 were actually desperate to stop the intelligent Bank of Canada policy from being noticed by the United States media!!!!!
     
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  4. DennisTate

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    Good point....
    only a tiny percentage of Canadians and Americans want to see people starving to death in the streets!!!!!

    Bill Gates is one of the few Americans who openly advocates for DEPOPULATION!!!!!

    Bill Gates is really the poster boy for Neo-Malthusian Economic Theory that goes all the way back to Thomas Robert Malthus.

    I do believe that the political will is finally building to flip political leaders out from under the influence of Gates and Soros and others like them.


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  5. Jolly Penguin

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    I am Canadian, and it's pretty messed up here. Only way to calm myself about it is to remember that at least I am not from the USA.
     
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    I once worked on a Canadian defense program called CASW (Company Area Suppression Weapon). Essentially, it called for retiring all their 81 mm mortars and replacing them with upgunned grenade machine guns like the Mark 17. The Canadian MoD wined and dined us relentlessly and did little work towards development or acquisition. At the end of the day the 20 man office managing the program ran out of money and the program died. They all retired and joked "Who cares? The USA will keep us safe."
     
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    Its true. Canada is in a pretty privileged position really. Another reason I'm glad to be Canadian instead of from the USA. You have the big mlitary and you pay for it, and we sit back and benefit from it.

    USA needs its northern border secure, and a friendly country like Canada there instead of say, Russia taking it over, so the USA will defend Canada. The only real danger Canada faces there, is if the USA decides to invade Canada itself and take it over. And if it did, there's nothing Canada could do to stop it, regardless of how much was spent on the military, given the massive imbalance in population and financial power.
     
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    This topic is more complex now because Bill Gates has came out openly and made statements that I believe should inspire all people involved in ministry to the homeless or alcoholics or drug addicts as well as the people who are generally pro-life. We need to realize that millions if not even billions of lives now depend ON OUR NOT BEING SILENT..... like the people of Germany were relatively silent when confronted with the rhetoric by Adolf Hitler in the 1930's.


     
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    I AM ONE OF THOSE CANADIANS WHO WATCHES NEWS OUT OF THE USA FAR MORE THAN NEWS OUT OF OTTAWA. FROM 1938 TO 1974 WE CANADIANS USED AN IDEA THAT WE HAD ACTUALLY STOLEN FROM PRESIDENT ABRAHAM LINCOLN. IF YOU WILL READ ABOUT THE LINCOLN 'GREENBACK MONETARY POLICY EXPERIMENT" you will know where we got the idea for Bank of Canada policy that we used from 1938 to 1974...... The real reasons as to why Prime Minister Pierre E. Trudeau abandoned this brilliant Bank of Canada Policy will shock you!!!!

    I am about to quote Ms. Betty Krawczyk because she explains all this so clearly...... (Ms. Betty Krawczyk ) ....
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    .... NOW I FEEL I SHOULD QUOTE MR. MELVIN SICKLER BECAUSE HE EXPLAINS WHERE WE CANADIIAN GOT THIS IDEA FOR OUR 1938 TO 1974 BANK OF CANADA POLICY THAT P. M. PIERRE E. TRUDEAU ABANDONED IN 1974.......

    (MELVIN SICKLER, LINCOLN, KENNEDY ) ....

    http://www.cidpusa.org/lincoln_JFK.htm
     
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    Don’t take any wooden nickels.
     
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    Well thats nice kids .. but what has this to do with "basic minimum income" in context of position on abortion.
     
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    He judges the entire nation based on his experience.
     
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    I do believe that all of us do that to at least some degree.......
    I tend to be what could be termed overly optimistic and I know that I know that this is due to the amazing people that I met during my sixty three years!

    Bill Gates is the poster boy for Neo-Malthusian Economic Theory......
    and I am sure that his PESSIMISM is largely the result of the people that he knew during his sixty five years!

    We also judge others by what we see within ourselves......
    and all that time that he spent with Epstein would tend to make anybody rather PESSIMISTIC and unable to visualize the vastly improved world of 2032 that was shown to near death experiencer and former Atheist Mellen Thomas Benedict. Bill Gates thinks that all of us are just PREDATORS at heart.... because he sees a predator WITHIN himself!!!!!!


    Actually..... William Gates III knows how to use FOUNDATIONS to make it LOOK like he is giving at least half of his wealth to philanthropy but but he is actually
    using what looks like philantrophy to increase his earnings and his levels of influence and power beyond what he could have done through a traditional company PLUS HE HAS THE ADDED BONUS OF PAYING VIRTUALLY NO INCOME TAX AT ALL!!!!!!!!


    BILL GATES DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT WHAT WAS SHOWN TO NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCER MELLEN THOMAS BENEDICT ABOUT THE YEAR 2032 IS AT ALL POSSIBLE!!!

    HE IS TOO PESSIMISTIC!!!!!

    His near death experience was in 1982 so add FIFTY YEARS to that and you have 2032......
    and numerous near death experiencers have been shown that the next decade is going to be one of the most positive transformations in all of earth's history!

    https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/

     
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    I have decided to put the following prediction and the link into this discussion..........
    partly because of what is said about Sodom and Gomorrah in the ancient Book of Jasher...........

    We Conservative Christians tend to blame ninety percent of the problems in Canada and America on the political left........
    but we Conservatives can really only change ourselves........
    and in order to become motivated to change ourselves......
    we have to begin to see how our thinking....and our ways of living..... are truly far more so a part of the problem than our leaders in
    conservatives are telling us is the case.........

    Dolly Parton’s Prophetic Warning Dream, Will Technology End Us? | Shawn Bolz Show
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    https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/19.htm
     
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    Here is the full text of Dolly Parton's dream......


    "Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride,fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
    And they were haughty, and committed abominationbefore me: therefore I took them away as I saw good." (Ezekiel 16:49, 50)



    Here is a chapter in the Book of Jasher that I believe fits with the full context of the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    https://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/apo/jasher/19.htm

     
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    OK, that's the end of this thread!
     
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    In many ways this is a thought provoking poll and OP. I cannot answer unless you define exactly what you mean by pro-choice and pro-life. I don't believe a zygote is a human life. I believe in allowing abortions for the first trimester. Not after other than to protect the life of the mother. So does that make me pro-life or pro-choice?

    Also, what talk about a basic income instead of a welfare system for people who cannot work? If someone can perform work, and does not want to. they should not get a basic income. Rather, they should get a job, or be required to do public service. If they cannot work, I support social services.
     
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    Thank you for this excellent post.... I shall pray to be given a wise response to this question...........

    but this may help........


    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...amous-people-on-earth.608615/#post-1074057162





     
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    A basic minimum income has the potential to take people above that place where they end up homeless and perhaps consider being euthanized.



     
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    A third of Canadians would test an electric socket with a fork.
     
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    Sounds like Canada is about to open DACHAU and AUSCHWITZ clinics.
     
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    It does sound that way indeed.... ......
    but I do believe that the people who did the poll knew how to send out the questionnaire to the type of people who would answer the poll in a certain way........

    .... perhaps because they were wanting to raise funding from the Gates Foundation????????????

    I am sure that the poll was NOT sent out to the type of people who would tend to NOT take the Covid 19 vaccine or join in the Trucker Convoy Protest against the Covid 19 Vaccine Mandate, in Ottawa!!!!

    Was Innovation to zero merely about reducing pollution?


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    EXACTLY!!!!!!!

    Which is one of the reasons why I do suspect that the people who did the poll may have been after Gates Foundation Funding!!!!!

    Rabid fans of the CBC tend to have a lot in common with the few remaining extremely enthusiastic fans of CNN!!!

     
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    Ok the CBC has rabid fans.? What are they rabid about? Knitting socks?
     
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    Well...for one thing.... "Rabid Fans of the CBC" would tend to support an Experimental Covi..... 19 Vaccine that was untested, unproven and potentially dangerous!
     
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    Are you sure that qualifies for “rabid’?
     

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