Zimmerman Told Cops Teenager Went For His Gun

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This makes perfect sense...

 

Hear hear!.....make it so!

There has to be some price for starting (*)(*)(*)(*).

 

Of course this would be the prime principle of such a law if I had my way. There would be special cases i.e. 110lb. woman being threatened with rape or worse from an obviously much stronger male attacker, or say if you were seriously outnumbered by a group bent on doing serious harm to you.

The law would have to be tweaked, but along with it the law would demand a very extensive and thorough investigation to make sure life was truly threatened and if using a gun to kill was lawful in every single case, no exceptions. Taking a life is a serious matter, even in self defense and should very well be treated as such.

 

There is an eye witness to this. Try again!

 

I think you've got some great ideas.

In California...you have to make a compelling case that YOU believed YOU would have been killed, if you didn't kill your offender.

You seem to know how real life fights go, and maybe real life shootings too. It all may feel like slow motion when it's happening, but things happen really fast, and someone shot, or punched hard, doesn't go down like in the movies.

This is the only way I can see this happening in real life that makes sense to me...and it's a guess...

1. Zimmerman followed Martin from a car, which would make anyone nervous.

2. Zimmerman hopped out of his truck and asked what martin was doing.

3. Martin probably said "F" off or something.

4. Zimmerman probably went for his car, and Martin was afraid of what Zimmerman was going for, and Martin was probably mad.

5. Martin probably ganked Zimmerman from in front or behind.

6. Martin beat Zimmerman dizzy.

7. Zimmerman grabbed his gun and shot, maybe Martin was on top of him, or still close?, or maybe walking away or back.

What I just can't picture...is Martin going for Zimmermans's gun WITHOUT Martin being able to get it. If Zimmerman was moaning on the ground, he wouldn't have the strength left to keep Martin from getting his gun if Martin knew where it was and was trying to get it..

 

How did Trayvon even know Zimmerman had a gun? Or where it was? at what point did he go for it? Before or after he unleashed the beating? The cross examination may put a lot of holes in Mr. Zimmerman’s story

 

I have to disagree here. You're asking that the decision to kill someone with your own gun has to come down to someone actually presenting it as proof to you. You're asking someone to determine within seconds whether their life should be protected by taking out someone else who has demonstrated themselves to be a threat.

In addition, how many times more would Martin have had to bash Zimmerman's head into the pavement before he was truly senseless, or had an aneuryism and died?

His circumstance justified use of deadly force - and regardless, I believe it is important that people be allowed to protect their person with deadly force when physically assaulted, as the outcome at that point is always in doubt.

There is no evidence that Zimmerman started a confrontation. If Zimmerman asked what Martin was doing, and Martin was uncooperative, that alone justified Zimmerman following Martin to watch what he did.

From Zimmerman's testimony, Zimmerman was returning to his SUV when Martin confronted him.

Zimmerman had a right to ask a stranger in his beseiged neighborhood what he was doing there. He should have been respectful when so doing, and we do not know if he was.

But that's simply ancillary. That's more important is that Martin could have been cooperative as well, considering every good citizen wants to eliminate crime, soothe concerns and help others.

 

The defense for Zimmerman is going to have to assert that Martin had a violent past, and to my knowlege, he does not have a violent criminal record.

It takes a lot to go from being mad at some guy following you..to taking his gun and trying to kill him.

Zimmerman's lawyers will have to fill that in nicely, with Zimmerman doing the right thing every step of the way

 

Oh right!......Geddon says things similar to what I said, and you're a perfect gentlemen, but with me you're all insults.

 

Obama’s sons repeat this “argument” again and again. They count on the simple fact that the general American public in difference with them does not know psychology of a street fight (not wrestling match or a no rules match in a ring), has never participated in one, never had a nose or a bone or skin broken, never went into a state of knockout.

One of the rules of a street thug is hit first, and break the nose and keep on going in the count of seconds. The end of the debate. Certainly the son of Obama aborted by him had such an experience and counted on it. Fortunately for the general American public Zimmerman being in the state of knockout still was able to pull a gun. Fortunately he had one. What else are guns for?

Thousands of skinny black kids get killed by cops and Hispanics, thousands are killed by the skinny black kids. A black mayor of the city of (Orlando?) identifies such skinny black kids as wearing hoodies and pants down, and he calls them a disgrace of the black race. He is wrong; the disgrace is on all races and on the people of America failing the skinny black kids and on irresponsible Papa Obama, on the liberal and progressive agenda trying to make sure that the black man cannot jump anymore.

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Stop this skinny kid thing. It is pathetic.

 

I suspect the more questions that are asked the tougher that will be especially when asked by even a second rate lawyer not to mention a skilled prosecutor. I don’t see a murder charge landing but I do see manslaughter being a fairly easy conviction based on the facts that have come out so far but who knows what is to come and what we don’t know yet

 

It sounds to me like Zimmerman is (*)(*)(*)(*)ting his pants, and needs to make up all this crap because his head is on the chopping block.

 

Oh please, what stupid (*)(*)(*)(*)ing person do you know would charge at a person holding or flashing a gun at them?

Your theory is liberal bull(*)(*)(*)(*), why not wait for the investigation to end instead of ginning up your goofy ass theories?

 

And you know this how? Is that what Al Sharp-tongue told you? He has screamed over and over, no justice, no peace. So if the investigation finds Zimmerman in the right defending himself, we should expect a race war.

Maybe you would be more satisfied if the black panthers just take the law in their own hands and kill Zimmerman. They did offer $10K for an eye for an eye, is that what you want?

 

Zimmerman had arrest record:

http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/

 

I heard it has now been upped to $1 million.

The leftists don't mind though. That is justice.

 

witness: it was NOT self defense:


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she is out in the open

where is the Fox network ''witness'' who said it was so but who still hasn't shown his face????

 

yes been in enough scuffles to know what to expect, seen 3 shooting and thats some scary scary stuff right there. and you are right, real street fights are nothing like in the movies at all, its honestly over before you know it with usually in most cases the person getting the first good shot in winning the fight.

and as far as the bout between Zimmerman and Martin i still cant make an honest decision of how it went down as far as where the gun is during the scuffle. although i can tell you is when a person is feeling true fear the shot of adrenaline going thru their body gives them great resilience, strength and they feel very little pain. hell you feel that sensation when you are just defending yourself. for example i remember once when i was 14 and got jumped, man i was scared out of my mind and i was getting rocked. but at the same time i found myself giving them all they could handle because me relentlessly trying to get away kept them from hitting me and instead just trying to hold me down. finally a teacher saw it and broke it up, and once the adrenaline high wore off about 10 minutes later is when i really felt the pain in my head and my back.

you dont feel much of anything in moments where adrenaline is just taking over your body, pain is usually a none issue because everything does happen so quickly your body just reacts. which is probably how Zimmerman was able to most likely hold onto Martin or even shove him off despite having his face jacked up and his head split open.

if someone doesnt really know how to fight you arent gonna get an easy knockout, that kind of shot is a very precise area and usually the average man in a street fight is gonna swing at the cheeks,head and eyes or nose. you gonna do damage but not enough to keep the other from fighting or grabbing onto you and making it harder for you to even throw a good punch.

if anything the one thing that got Zimmerman even on his back was Martin's great leverage over his much shorter opponent, after that Martin was allowed to take some decent shots at Zimmerman.

the gun though, im not understanding if it was on Zimmerman or in his truck. ive heard 2 stories one being Zimmerman shot from his back and another where Zimmerman ran back to his truck and got his gun and then shot.

this is just a (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up situation lol.

 

I don't respect you.

 

fact of the matter is on the street thats usually how its gonna happen anyways. i mean if someone with a gun has an eye for you for whatever reason they are gonna show you theirs well before you can show them yours. also another thing is if you are carrying a gun and someone you do not know is getting aggressive with you, go ahead and pull your weapon if you feel you must because either 2 things are gonna happen in MOST cases. 1 being if the jerk is smart enough he will back off an walk far away from you, or 2 the idiot is gonna make a move like they are going for their own weapon of choice in which yours is already pulled and if they start to show a weapon feel to empty your clip into them. remember its not illegal to pull out your firearm in a situation in which you feel you are threatened by an aggressor, its just illegal to kill the aggressor without proper cause. the gun doesnt need to be fired to prove a point or save your life or the life of anothers, its a great deterent without even wasting ammo.

now in the case that the aggressor still tries to pursue you after you have shown intent you are gonna defend yourself with deadly force and warn them of that, well if they are that stupid to still come at you then id have to say you do have the right to shoot but i hope you have witnesses because its gonna look bad and you are gonna have a hell of a case on your hands.

i also believe people should have the right to use deadly force if life is in danger, giing their assailant flowers is not gonna stop them from being killed or stop a beating. but at the same time dont put yourself in that situation to have to make that decision which i feel Zimmerman did.

dude Zimmerman did in fact call the cops, they told him to leave the guy alone. he alone kept up the pursuit. if anything he could have stayed his happy ass in his truck and then asked like a smart person. but no he had to be billy bad ass and get out and have words with the guy which was dumb in the first place.

if his ass had just stayed in his suv he wouldnt have had his ass kicked and in turn he wouldnt have a reason to shoot Treyvon and the media wouldnt have nothing to try their best to start a fire storm over and we wouldnt have to listen to Al Sharpton lol.

Neighborhood watch your first obligation is to report what you find suspicious and then call the police to give information and then wait for the cops orders. you dont just get out of your vehicle and start running your mouth. stay in your car where you are truly safer, your gun is there and if you see someone let them come to you if you need answers, dont get out where you are more vulnerable.

yeah and i dont know what was said, but Zimmerman should have atleast kept his sorry ass in his vehicle and asked his questions from there and not confronted Martin. never ever give someone any opportunity on you, you always need to make sure that you have a better advantage. he stays in his car and if Martin attacks the doors are locked and the window can be put up at a good speed.

like i said, dont start (*)(*)(*)(*) and wont be (*)(*)(*)(*). Zimmerman getting out of his vehicle was foolish especially if he didnt have his gun on him. he is lucky he didnt walk up to someone who already had a gun because this would be another non story of a dude getting shot in the back. but no, its a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing political fiasco because of 2 stupid ass people showing off how manly they were.

people need to get smarter, this (*)(*)(*)(*) is ridiculous.

 

This statement applies here too:

Let's agree on this: To kill someone at point blank range in a physical struggle with a gun require these element by the gun welder
1. A chamberred weapon that is cocked and loaded prior to contact.
2. A weapon that no longer has the safety engaged.
3. Quality access to your weapon within a ready holster or in your hand.

A glock is not an easy weapon to remove from a pants pocket and in a surprise struggle with a chambered weapon no longer on safety where you are physically wrestling you are likely fire off a round or two of accidental squeezes before bringing the weapon to chest level to fire a fatal round to the chest.

Knowing a person has a weapon and is attempting to place it in an area of you body to kill you would definitely justify desperate screams for some one to help save you from impending death.

 

Oh knock it off.....the Black Panther Party does not represent the left.