Stalin's tomb in red flowers

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  1. Blinda Vaganto

    Blinda Vaganto Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is that bad. And it is not just old people. It is also a young people who mourn the death of the mass murderer. The more I know people, the more I like my dog.

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    A Communist party supporter holds Stalin's portrait as others place flowers to his grave in Red Square, outside the Kremlin wall, to mark the 63th anniversary of his death in Moscow, Russia, on Saturday, March 5, 2016. Josef Stalin led the Soviet Union from 1924 until his death in 1953. (AP Photo/Ivan Sekretarev)


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    Blinda wrote: The more I know people, the more I like my dog.

    Well put.
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  3. litwin

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    many of them were raped by NKVD sadists, many lost loved ones in Siberia...crazy julus juchi...
    [video=youtube;TposvnTgmJw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TposvnTgmJw[/video]
     
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    It is said you get the government you deserve. I don't know about that. Does any human deserve to live under Stalin, Mao, or anyone like that?

    I don't think so. Some people are just born in the wrong place at the wrong time.
     
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    Ima use that last bit lol.
     
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    There is an inherent character flaw in the Moskovite- Moskal - Russian - julus juchi... in that they love being beaten repeatedly by their barbarian dictators/Czars/ Mongolian overlords. Russians fear freedom.

    The people who I come from were invaded by the Russian barbarians and just in 1933 6-8 million of my people were murdered by the Stalist -Russian barbarians ? Why ?? Because they were Ukrainians, resisted collectivization, loved the freedom , loved the freedom of the Cossack culture, and the most important thing is that Ukrainians do not share ta common genesis with the Muscovites. Russians are basically Mongols in culture and DNA studies hae proved that Russians are more Finno-Turko-Mongol than any other people in that area.


    You guys have seen it right here on this forum that the Putin trolls here will attack me and accuse me of being a "fascist" because I come from people who love freedom and they come from Russians who love being beaten down by their leaders.
     
  7. litwin

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    do you think that only mentally sick people can love Stalin? in 2016 it is impossible to hide (behind any narrative) Koba´s crimes..
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  8. Jeannette

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    Twenty seven million people died fighting a war against Fascism led by Stalin...and the Soviet Union won that war, and the Nazis were defeated, so what is he then a villain or a hero? It's hard for many Russians to reconcile the one fact with the other.

    As for me I see both systems as being evil. Had the Soviets not imposed their 'Internationalist' system on Russia, and tried to eliminate national boundaries, Nationalistic Fascism such as Nazism would not have come about in Europe. :oldman:
     
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    The entire population of Russia mourns about Stalin. Except - homosexuals and fraudsters. And may even be a few weak-minded oppose Stalin.

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    People in the West have forgotten how to think. They instead a head - TV. Instead the brain - Speaker Fox News. Stalin - the most slandered homosexuals and other scoundrels. If you have a brain, you can compare the growth of living standards in the 30-ies in the USSR and the USA, for example.
    Also, think - why no one talks about a scoundrel and sadist Jew Trotsky (Bronstein) or Jew Lenin, but everyone is talking about the terrible "tyrant," Stalin?

    The great Russian philosopher, logician, dissident Alexander Zinoviev wrote about Stalin:
    "I was a staunch anti-Stalinist at the age of 17 years. We even started to prepare to assassinate Stalin. If I would have been condemned in 1939 to the death penalty, it would be fair. Now, thinking about all this age, I can confirm that Stalin was the greatest personality of the XX century, the greatest political genius"

    Averell Harriman, the US ambassador to the USSR in 1943-1946: "... He has a profound knowledge, a fantastic ability to delve into the details, mental alertness and astoundingly keen understanding of human nature .. I found that he was better informed than Roosevelt, more realistic than Churchill, in a sense, the most effective of the war leaders" .(From the memoirs)

    The most outspoken opponent of Russia and the USSR, Zbigniew Brzezinski: "Under Stalin, the Soviet Union has indeed become a great industrial power. Indeed there was an outflow of the population from the villages. It was fully rebuilt centralized socialist system. And while in the Soviet economy was relatively high growth rate. According to official statistics, the Soviet national income has increased four times in the first five years, giving an annual growth of nearly 15 percent. This required moving large masses of people - the number of urban population has doubled over thirteen years. From 1928 to 1940 the annual electricity production rose from 5 billion to 48.3 billion kWh, steel production - from 4.3 million tons to 18.3 million; manufacture of machine tools increased from 2 thousand to 58,400 a year; Car began to produce not 8000 per year, and 145 thousand. On the eve of the war industry accounted for 84.7 percent of all Soviet economy. Even if these figures are exaggerated the official statistics, the fact that the Soviet economy has achieved great success, can not be denied " Z. Brzezinski "Big fail. Birth and death of communism in the twentieth century."

    HG Wells wrote about his meeting with Stalin: "I confess that I approached Stalin with some suspicion and prejudice. In my mind the image was created by - a very careful, focused a fanatic despot, jealous, suspicious monopolization power. I expected to find the ruthless, cruel and smug doctrinaire mountaineer, whose spirit never completely not pulled out from their mountain valleys ... all vague rumors, suspicion ceased to exist for me forever after I talked with him a few minutes. I've never met anyone more sincere, decent and honest; in him there is nothing dark and sinister, and it is these qualities it should explain its tremendous power in Russia."

    The Western media and the feeble-minded idiots in Russia lie about that Stalin destroyed the clerics. But to destroy the church and kill the priests not Stalin (Stalin spoke strongly against it) - the Jews Trotsky, Lenin and other such villains destroy the church and kill the priests
    (*) Archbishop Luka (Woino-Yasenetsky), canonized as a saint of the Russian Orthodox Church: "Stalin retained Russia, showed what Russia means to the world. That is why I, as an Orthodox Christian and Russian patriot, bow to Stalin. "

    Think independently. Do not look the Western media. This is bad for the brain.
     
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    He was a hero because he helped win the war haunts the Nazis and sacrificed 27 million of his people to do it? Why? Why does that make him a hero? What you expect us to believe he did that out of the kindness of his heart and to save the world from the evil Nazis? For years he was Hitlers ally. He helped Germany launch its war on the world. If Hitler hadn't decided to betray him Russia never would have even gotten involved let alone help win the war. They would have sat back and watch the show. Stalin was never anything more then the enemy of my enemy.
     
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    And yet I read that an Orthodox priest pulled off a sticker on someone's car with a picture of Stalin. ..so I don't think your position is the official position of the Church. But that's neither here nor there. I think many in the Soviet Union saw him as the one who ended the ruthless persecution of Christians... while the Jews in contrast see him, as the one who started persecuting them.

    As for Trotsky, who might have become premier when Lenin died had it not been for Stalin, he believed in continuous revolution and war so he could establish the Soviet Unions new world order... something our new Trotskyite neo cons in Washington are following, so they could establish their own new world order.

    The Soviet Union did not die, it went to Washington. Same methods, same mentality.
     
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    As soon as the real power appeared in the hands of Stalin, he decided:
    In relation to religion, the ministers of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Orthodox faithful of the Central Committee resolves:
    1) considers it inappropriate to continue the practice of the NKVD organs of the arrest of ministers of the Russian Orthodox Church, persecution of believers.
    2) Order Comrade Ulyanov (Lenin) on May 1, 1919 for N13666 - 2 "On the fight against priests and religion," addressed chairman Cheka Comrade Dzerzhinsky, and all relevant regulations of the Cheka - OGPU - NKVD, concerning the prosecution of ministers of the Russian Orthodox Church and Orthodox faithful - cancel.
    EXTRACT FROM THE MINUTES N98

    Stalin fought for the greatness of Russia, and in fact has kept the Church of Christ from a pogrom that conducted Trotskyites, which most of them hated the Church and Russia, and the Russian people with its history.

    Liars can say anything ... there are facts.
    STALIN:
    - Elimination of churches and prayer meetings - banned
    - "Religious" arrests - banned
    - Lenin's decree "On the fight against priests and religion" CANCELED
    - Huge funds for the restoration of churches ALLOCATED
    - Ordered to establish the Orthodox newspaper
    - Sanctioned the opening of theological courses at the Novodevichy Convent
    - Returned to the Church of the Trinity-Sergius Lavra in Zagorsk, which soon began to work Theological Academy
    - Help with the election of the Patriarch

    It was Stalin who saved the Russian Orthodox Church by its complete destruction.
     
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    LOL) so sovok was a Jewish state, before Georgian bandit Koba saved with help of in GULAG and KURAPATU? LOL)))
     
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    Reminds me of those that continue to worship Reagan aka (Rotten Ronnie !!)
     
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    whats about terror of 1937 ?Trotsky , Lenin´s fault ?

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    do you think Koba and Reagan belong to the same league?
     
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    And what nation will enter a war and have almost a third of their population killed out of the kindness of their heart other than Tsar Nicholas II who entered WWI to help Serbia ...but even then he would not have entered had he known Germany would support Austria. It all started with a big bluff by Germany that back fired and ended up with 20,000 men being killed everyday in WWI.

    Would Roosevelt dared to have entered WWII, if Pearl Harbor had not been bombed? I don't think so... and yet our sacrifice would have been minimal in comparison to Russia's. Tell that though to the American mothers who had sons of military age.

    Stalin's a hero not because he helped Europe win the war. I'm sure the Russian people could care less about them...and with good cause. He's a hero because he kept Russia from being taken over by Germany. By the same token Stalin's a villain because he was part of a system that turned Russia into a vast prison.
     
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    About what kind of terror in 1937, you say? About labor camps Roosevelt? Or About Jewish pogroms in Europe? In Sweden, among others.
    In the Soviet Union there was no terror. Except the crimes of the Jews Yagoda and homosexual Yezhov. They were shot. Innocent prisoners have been rehabilitated.
    Also, the fight against crime was held with 1937. Was convicted fraudsters, killers, conspirators, and so on.
     
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    I don't know that much about the Soviet Union, so I went to a Russiapedia site, and according to them Stalin was paranoid and during his reign over 20 million people were sent to the Gulag. It's quite interesting and very objective.

    As for the Soviet System itself, it was as faulty as the people who devised it. Any system that believes the end result justifies what they're doing has to be evil... whether it be Lenin's USSR, Hitler's thousand year reich, or Washington DC's new world order.


    [video]http://russiapedia.rt.com/of-russian-origin/stalins-purges/[/video]
     
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    My opinion is that Stalin was a criminal trying to convert the whole country into one big GULAG. He managed to achieve quite a lot of impressive results in different fields which does not excuse him though .
     
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    Stalin killed more innocent people that Hitler even.

    They should have burned Stalin alive.
     
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    Has anyone liquidated as many Communists as Stalin?
     
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    who told you he was?

    got any proof other than West media fraudulent publications?
     
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    hopefully, you weren't raped by the NKVD, eh?

    like you in the US today?

    blame killings by Nazis on Stalin, don't you?
     
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    George Washington beheaded a French Emissary on his way to sign a peace treaty with England. Some People think GW was a hero, a moral human and a great general. GW was far from it. The victor writes the history books. Things get distorted, cherry tree , couldn't tell a lie. George Washington lied a big one. Washington either beheaded Joseph Coulon de Villiers de Jumonville or was complacent and in deliction of duties. He also lied about the battle beginning , not admitting to ambushing the French while they were eating a meal.


    Washington and Tanacharison then ambushed Jumonville's party, sneaking up and surrounding the French camp. Some were still asleep, others preparing breakfast, when without warning, Washington gave the order to fire. Those who escaped the volley scrambled for their weapons, but were swiftly overwhelmed. Ten of the French, including Jumonville, were killed, one was wounded, and all but one (who escaped to warn the French commander at Fort Duquesne) of the rest were taken prisoner.[31]

    The exact circumstances of Jumonville's death are disputed. Contrecœur claimed that Jumonville and most of the other wounded French were massacred in cold blood by British musket fire after having surrendered;[31] Washington claimed in his account that Jumonville was killed, but did not give any details.[32] Other accounts claimed that Tanacharison tomahawked Jumonville while he (Jumonville) was reading the summons.[33] When the British left the battlefield to return to their camp at Great Meadows, they did not bury any of the French dead.[31]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg..._and_Indian_War#Jumonville_and_Fort_Necessity
     
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    Could you point out where I said any nation has or ever will do that?

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