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Thread: Is Racial Segregation really a human rights Violation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    How many times do I have to tell each of you that I'm not forcing or making anyone do anything. The art and the intellect of segregating races or cultures has to come from the varying factions of people themselves. Get it now? I can no longer attempt to discourse with people like you that come here totally close minded and ignorant.
    What closed mind? I just happen to know that most of the black people in this country don't want to be re-segregated and most white people with an IQ higher than room temperature think it's a dumb idea. We tried it. It didn't work. Why would anyone want to try it again and, to compound the stupidity, do it in a way that will totally (*)(*)(*)(*) off both parties to the land exchange that it would involve?

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftysergeant View Post
    What closed mind? I just happen to know that most of the black people in this country don't want to be re-segregated and most white people with an IQ higher than room temperature think it's a dumb idea. We tried it. It didn't work. Why would anyone want to try it again and, to compound the stupidity, do it in a way that will totally (*)(*)(*)(*) off both parties to the land exchange that it would involve?
    When did we try segregation, and I mean total segregation that would have brought peace and harmonious living among the varying factions of people?
    Last edited by Libhater; Apr 27 2012 at 02:16 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stig42 View Post
    Completely voluntary segregation may not violate human rights would probably contribute to racism and xenophobia though
    The term "segregation" conjures up images of policemen hosing down minorities in the south during Jim Crow. Is there really such a thing as voluntary segregation of the races? I can't believe that for a second.
    “If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater his effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders - What would you tell him to do?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Object227 View Post

    The term "segregation" conjures up images of policemen hosing down minorities in the south during Jim Crow. Is there really such a thing as voluntary segregation of the races? I can't believe that for a second.
    Yes there is such a thing as voluntary segregation, as I have done that myself choosing to live in a gated community far away and safely away from the racists and the racist tension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    Yes there is such a thing as voluntary segregation, as I have done that myself choosing to live in a gated community far away and safely away from the racists and the racist tension.
    Problem solved, then. Stop bothering the rest of us. We have more important things to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    Yes there is such a thing as voluntary segregation, as I have done that myself choosing to live in a gated community far away and safely away from the racists and the racist tension.
    That is voluntary isolation. Merely choosing to stay away from others is not the same as telling others that they must stay away from your kind (even if individuals of your kind wish to associate with them).
    “If you saw Atlas, the giant who holds the world on his shoulders, if you saw that he stood, blood running down his chest, his knees buckling, his arms trembling but still trying to hold the world aloft with the last of his strength, and the greater his effort the heavier the world bore down upon his shoulders - What would you tell him to do?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by leftysergeant View Post

    Problem solved, then. Stop bothering the rest of us. We have more important things to worry about.
    How am I bothering you? I would think a greater bother to you would be strolling through any urban center in the nation around midnight and having a streetlight shining brightly upon your white face.
    Last edited by Libhater; Apr 27 2012 at 03:00 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    How am I bothering you? I would think a greater bother to you would be strolling through any urban center in the nation around midnight and having a streetlight shining brightly upon your white face.
    The only time I had a problem because I was identified as white in a black neighborhood two white guys tried to shoot me. Luckily, the lady whose hand I was holding saw them coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Libhater View Post
    Yes there is such a thing as voluntary segregation, as I have done that myself choosing to live in a gated community far away and safely away from the racists and the racist tension.
    And if someone from another race decides to move into that gated community then what? So long as there is no coercion or actions that prevent anyone from any race moving into that gated community then it isn't truly a "segregated" community. It might be by coincidence a white, brown or black community but race cannot be a criteria related to living in the community.

    Someone that chooses where they live solely based upon the racial make-up of the community and seeks to prohibit members of other races from living in the community is a racist and their actions violate the law. Their actions to prohibit members of another race from living in the community violate the inalienable Rights of the person that would choose to live in the community. It is against the law and justifiably so.

    Let me provide an example. I'm not a supporter of President Obama but he is one of the greatest success stories in America today. Raised by a single mother living in relative poverty he aspired to the American Dream and by shear determination has managed to be educated in the finest colleges in America and has risen to fill the office of the President of the United States. There can be no greater story of success in America today and I would love to have him as a next door neighbor because of that. We would disagree on numerous political subjects but as a person there are few finer in America today. Anyone that would not want such a person as a neighbor, regardless of their skin color, is an idiot.
    When social conservatives of the Republican Party state they want to return to "traditional American values" this is the "traditional American value" that they support.

    "This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government for white men.” Andrew Johnson 1866.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiva_TD View Post


    And if someone from another race decides to move into that gated community then what? So long as there is no coercion or actions that prevent anyone from any race moving into that gated community then it isn't truly a "segregated" community. It might be by coincidence a white, brown or black community but race cannot be a criteria related to living in the community.

    Your strange definition of "segregated" is duly noted. I see that the problem in discussing 'segregation' is that many of you equate the term with the 'forced' segregation of a past era or with the apartheid issue. No where in my many postings here have I suggested that race be 'the' deciding factor for my choice to live a segregated life. I've even given a list of black Conservatives that I would be honored to have live in my gated community. So race in of itself is not nor has it ever been the deciding factor in how our unique 'segregated' community was formed.


    Someone that chooses where they live solely based upon the racial make-up of the community and seeks to prohibit members of other races from living in the community is a racist and their actions violate the law. Their actions to prohibit members of another race from living in the community violate the inalienable Rights of the person that would choose to live in the community. It is against the law and justifiably so.
    Yes, I agree with you here, but lets not focus so much on what members of a community can or cannot do (which is absolutely nothing) to prevent someone from moving in, rather, lets explore the reasons (if any) as to why someone not sharing our views on segregation would want to move in with people who have totally opposing views on just about everything. For example, why would I a WHITE man ever want to or ever contemplate moving into the heart of Harlem--knowing full well that the majority of it's denizens are black, and thus they all voted for obama; that they're all liberals or socialists; that most are racists or would at least take my presence there unkindly; that it would be unsafe for me in that milieu, and basically that I would have absolutely nothing in common with any of them. Likewise, no one having opposite values of me and my neighbors would want to join our crowd. This has nothing to do with race per se, it has everything to do with values and lifestyle choices.[/QUOTE]
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