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    Default Support of Turkey doesn’t make sense

    By Yossi Feituch

    January 16, 2012

    How to explain the idiosyncrasies of our Middle East diplomacy that includes a bizarre love affair with Turkey’s Islamist regime?

    While President Barack Obama supports the idea of an Arab Palestinian state — even as its constituents contemplate no scenario of peaceful co-existence with or acceptance of the legitimacy of Israel as a Jewish state, as is reflected, for instance, in Palestinian curricular schoolbooks — he denies the idea of a Kurdish state in southeastern Turkey, though no Kurd doubts the legitimacy of Islamic Turkey as a nation-state.

    Indeed, the Obama administration is a staunch ally of Turkey in its quest to defeat the Kurdish desire for self-determination — recently, we supplied Ankara with three Super Cobra attack helicopters and four pilotless Predator drones.

    Yet we cannot even get the neo-Ottoman regime, in return for siding with it in its full-blown war against the Kurdistan Workers Party, to be less anti-American, if only by mitigating its promotion of radical Islamism (aka Muslim Brotherhood) in Egypt and Libya, not to mention its embrace of terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah and, until recently, Syria; or to end its systematic undercutting of U.S.-led sanctions against Iran, whose fast track to making a nuclear weapon does not concern it one bit; or, at the least, to nudge it earnestly to mend its broken relations with Israel, a bona fide and important U.S. ally.

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    COUNT DOWNS TO A KURDISH STATE IN IRAQ

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    Never Forget "HALABJA" and "ANFAL"


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    Turkey is acting in it's own best interests and that is to be the moral center of the M.E. They broke with Israel and Syria, and have continued attacking the Kurds in Iraq (where anti Turk forces take sanctuary.) Makes sense to me. Their brand of Islamism is a far cry from Iran's and Saudia Arabia's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuanprolib View Post
    Turkey is acting in it's own best interests and that is to be the moral center of the M.E. They broke with Israel and Syria, and have continued attacking the Kurds in Iraq (where anti Turk forces take sanctuary.) Makes sense to me. Their brand of Islamism is a far cry from Iran's and Saudia Arabia's.
    Turkey is invading non Turkish lands , the land of kurds , they dont deserve weapon they deserve to be punished to stop occupying kurdish lands and depriving kurds of their own rights on their own home land ..... that does not make sense and a world needs a leader that will look at peoples best interest not selfishness .

    turkey is also occupying Greek lands in Cyrus ... so yes they do deserve a kick out from NATO and on top they deserve a blow to be shown their own place , you are not more superior to me therefore the article makes very good sense in every possible way .
    Last edited by alan131210; Jan 17 2012 at 10:28 PM.
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    COUNT DOWNS TO A KURDISH STATE IN IRAQ

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    Never Forget "HALABJA" and "ANFAL"

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan131210 View Post
    Turkey is invading non Turkish lands , the land of kurds , they dont deserve weapon they deserve to be punished to stop occupying kurdish lands and depriving kurds of their own rights on their own home land ..... that does not make sense and a world needs a leader that will look at peoples best interest not selfishness .

    turkey is also occupying Greek lands in Cyrus ... so yes they do deserve a kick out from NATO and on top they deserve a blow to be shown their own place , you are not more superior to me therefore the article makes very good sense in every possible way .
    The US should be as well! They invaded non US lands twice in this decade! And yes I am more superior to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan131210 View Post
    By Yossi Feituch

    January 16, 2012

    How to explain the idiosyncrasies of our Middle East diplomacy that includes a bizarre love affair with Turkey’s Islamist regime?

    While President Barack Obama supports the idea of an Arab Palestinian state — even as its constituents contemplate no scenario of peaceful co-existence with or acceptance of the legitimacy of Israel as a Jewish state, as is reflected, for instance, in Palestinian curricular schoolbooks — he denies the idea of a Kurdish state in southeastern Turkey, though no Kurd doubts the legitimacy of Islamic Turkey as a nation-state.

    Indeed, the Obama administration is a staunch ally of Turkey in its quest to defeat the Kurdish desire for self-determination — recently, we supplied Ankara with three Super Cobra attack helicopters and four pilotless Predator drones.

    Yet we cannot even get the neo-Ottoman regime, in return for siding with it in its full-blown war against the Kurdistan Workers Party, to be less anti-American, if only by mitigating its promotion of radical Islamism (aka Muslim Brotherhood) in Egypt and Libya, not to mention its embrace of terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah and, until recently, Syria; or to end its systematic undercutting of U.S.-led sanctions against Iran, whose fast track to making a nuclear weapon does not concern it one bit; or, at the least, to nudge it earnestly to mend its broken relations with Israel, a bona fide and important U.S. ally.

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    Turkey doest not have a lot of support i Washington , then Turkey doest like American civilization
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    Quote Originally Posted by alan131210 View Post
    By Yossi Feituch

    January 16, 2012

    How to explain the idiosyncrasies of our Middle East diplomacy that includes a bizarre love affair with Turkey’s Islamist regime?

    While President Barack Obama supports the idea of an Arab Palestinian state — even as its constituents contemplate no scenario of peaceful co-existence with or acceptance of the legitimacy of Israel as a Jewish state, as is reflected, for instance, in Palestinian curricular schoolbooks — he denies the idea of a Kurdish state in southeastern Turkey, though no Kurd doubts the legitimacy of Islamic Turkey as a nation-state.

    Indeed, the Obama administration is a staunch ally of Turkey in its quest to defeat the Kurdish desire for self-determination — recently, we supplied Ankara with three Super Cobra attack helicopters and four pilotless Predator drones.

    Yet we cannot even get the neo-Ottoman regime, in return for siding with it in its full-blown war against the Kurdistan Workers Party, to be less anti-American, if only by mitigating its promotion of radical Islamism (aka Muslim Brotherhood) in Egypt and Libya, not to mention its embrace of terrorist organizations Hamas and Hezbollah and, until recently, Syria; or to end its systematic undercutting of U.S.-led sanctions against Iran, whose fast track to making a nuclear weapon does not concern it one bit; or, at the least, to nudge it earnestly to mend its broken relations with Israel, a bona fide and important U.S. ally.

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    American support for Turkey is counter-intuitive. It's an Obama phenomenon. When he ultimately leaves office support for Turkey will evaporate. Among American conservatives the idea is spreading that Turkey is hostile to America in all things. The Turkish movie Valley of the Wolves should be shown to American audiences to acquaint them with Turkish hatred of America.

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    Theis nation of anti-semetic Muslims, of the Turkey kind, who are responsible for genocide of the Armenians are despicable in their denial of the self-same. At least the Germans owned up to what they did and are contrite.
    If we do not learn from the past, we will keep making the same stupid mistakes

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    Supporting Turkey makes quite a bit of sense. First of all, Turkey is actually much stronger than what she appears to be. Why the world don't notice the true power of Turkey is because Turkey gets what she wants from the Western political system, so she plays nicely. When something goes wrong with the region, Turkey can take extremely aggressive position, the last 500 years of Turkish history is a proof of this. The US knows Turkey's capability very well, so that's why Turkey is in NATO since almost the beginning. The US-Turkey relations didn't start with the Obama administration, and will not end with Obama.

    Supporting Turkey makes sense because Turkey is de facto boss of the region. Turkey is much more powerful than Iran and can be a much better bad*ss than Iran If you can do something in the region without Turkey's supervision. The WW 1 is a good history lesson for the both parties.

    Though this can not really make much sense for some Texan republicans. They have little knowledge on international relations, so that's understandable. Also It's quite interesting to see some anti-Turkish reactions grow in the US. That's also a good thing, I guess. Thus the American people can get a chance to know Turkey more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turk View Post
    Supporting Turkey makes quite a bit of sense. First of all, Turkey is actually much stronger than what she appears to be. Why the world don't notice the true power of Turkey is because Turkey gets what she wants from the Western political system, so she plays nicely. When something goes wrong with the region, Turkey can take extremely aggressive position, the last 500 years of Turkish history is a proof of this. The US knows Turkey's capability very well, so that's why Turkey is in NATO since almost the beginning. The US-Turkey relations didn't start with the Obama administration, and will not end with Obama.

    Supporting Turkey makes sense because Turkey is de facto boss of the region. Turkey is much more powerful than Iran and can be a much better bad*ss than Iran If you can do something in the region without Turkey's supervision. The WW 1 is a good history lesson for the both parties.

    Though this can not really make much sense for some Texan republicans. They have little knowledge on international relations, so that's understandable. Also It's quite interesting to see some anti-Turkish reactions grow in the US. That's also a good thing, I guess. Thus the American people can get a chance to know Turkey more.
    its only your statement...
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Turk View Post
    Supporting Turkey makes quite a bit of sense. First of all, Turkey is actually much stronger than what she appears to be. Why the world don't notice the true power of Turkey is because Turkey gets what she wants from the Western political system, so she plays nicely. When something goes wrong with the region, Turkey can take extremely aggressive position, the last 500 years of Turkish history is a proof of this. The US knows Turkey's capability very well, so that's why Turkey is in NATO since almost the beginning. The US-Turkey relations didn't start with the Obama administration, and will not end with Obama.

    Supporting Turkey makes sense because Turkey is de facto boss of the region. Turkey is much more powerful than Iran and can be a much better bad*ss than Iran If you can do something in the region without Turkey's supervision. The WW 1 is a good history lesson for the both parties.

    Though this can not really make much sense for some Texan republicans. They have little knowledge on international relations, so that's understandable. Also It's quite interesting to see some anti-Turkish reactions grow in the US. That's also a good thing, I guess. Thus the American people can get a chance to know Turkey more.
    You're whistling past the graveyard pal. We know the Turks all too well. Turks are united in their hostility to Americans.

    Once the Iranians get the bomb Turkey is screwed. I don't care. Serves you right. Hell, the Turks can't even defeat an insurgency on their own soil.

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