NDE message that God's has many plans for the Gay Community???

When I first read the following message I was rather puzzled!

It took me about five years to begin to understand some of the specific plans that God obviously has for the Gay Community at this critical time in history!


http://www.near-death.com/andreason.html#nine
Christian Andreason:

 

Plan number 1: I believe that God wants to use the Gay Community to usher in an era when far more effective, less expensive and more natural remedies for various diseases are taken more seriously!

http://ezinearticles.com/?Glyconutr...-HIV,--According-to-African-Leaders&id=112315

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One of the least expensive sources for one of the eight major glyconutrients, mannose, is aloe vera juice which can be purchased at Walmart for $8/gallon!

 

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/january-february/my-train-wreck-conversion.html


My Train Wreck Conversion
As a leftist lesbian professor, I despised Christians. Then I somehow became one.
Rosaria Champagne Butterfield [ posted 2/7/2013 9:26AM ]Photo by Jimmy Williams10251518emailprint
Single PageRelated TopicsRead This IssueThe word Jesus stuck in my throat like an elephant tusk; no matter how hard I choked, I couldn't hack it out. Those who professed the name commanded my pity and wrath. As a university professor, I tired of students who seemed to believe that "knowing Jesus" meant knowing little else. Christians in particular were bad readers, always seizing opportunities to insert a Bible verse into a conversation with the same point as a punctuation mark: to end it rather than deepen it.

Stupid. Pointless. Menacing. That's what I thought of Christians and their god Jesus, who in paintings looked as powerful as a Breck Shampoo commercial model.

As a professor of English and women's studies, on the track to becoming a tenured radical, I cared about morality, justice, and compassion. Fervent for the worldviews of Freud, Hegel, Marx, and Darwin, I strove to stand with the disempowered. I valued morality. And I probably could have stomached Jesus and his band of warriors if it weren't for how other cultural forces buttressed the Christian Right. Pat Robertson's quip from the 1992 Republican National Convention pushed me over the edge: "Feminism," he sneered, "encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians." Indeed. The surround sound of Christian dogma comingling with Republican politics demanded my attention.

After my tenure book was published, I used my post to advance the understandable allegiances of a leftist lesbian professor. My life was happy, meaningful, and full. My partner and I shared many vital interests: aids activism, children's health and literacy, Golden Retriever rescue, our Unitarian Universalist church, to name a few. Even if you believed the ghost stories promulgated by Robertson and his ilk, it was hard to argue that my partner and I were anything but good citizens and caregivers. The GLBT community values hospitality and applies it with skill, sacrifice, and integrity.

I began researching the Religious Right and their politics of hatred against queers like me. To do this, I would need to read the one book that had, in my estimation, gotten so many people off track: the Bible. While on the lookout for some Bible scholar to aid me in my research, I launched my first attack on the unholy trinity of Jesus, Republican politics, and patriarchy, in the form of an article in the local newspaper about Promise Keepers. It was 1997.

I was a broken mess. I did not want to lose everything that I loved. But the voice of God sang a sanguine love song in the rubble of my world.The article generated many rejoinders, so many that I kept a Xerox box on each side of my desk: one for hate mail, one for fan mail. But one letter I received defied my filing system. It was from the pastor of the Syracuse Reformed Presbyterian Church. It was a kind and inquiring letter. Ken Smith encouraged me to explore the kind of questions I admire: How did you arrive at your interpretations? How do you know you are right? Do you believe in God? Ken didn't argue with my article; rather, he asked me to defend the presuppositions that undergirded it. I didn't know how to respond to it, so I threw it away.

Later that night, I fished it out of the recycling bin and put it back on my desk, where it stared at me for a week, confronting me with the worldview divide that demanded a response. As a postmodern intellectual, I operated from a historical materialist worldview, but Christianity is a supernatural worldview. Ken's letter punctured the integrity of my research project without him knowing it.

 

Excellent article Elijah!

We in the church have no idea how much we thwart the plans of God to bring in the lost by the thousands and by the millions by our pride, anger, self-righteousness and sense of superiority!

http://www.christianforums.com/t7674313/

The story of homeless man Angelo by Rick Joyner!

http://www.scribd.com/doc/63814881/TheVision-The-Final-Quest-the-Call-RickJoyner-PDF

 

The second major problem that the Gay Community can be used by God to address is that a high percentage of people consider that climate change is a problem for their children or grandchildren. For obvious reasons that Gay Community will be especially inclined to research the Helen Wambach Ph. D. studies which will put them in a position to prove to skeptics that climate change is a problem for all of us because chances are within a century or two or three....a part of our soul/spirit will probably have reincarnated right back into the thick of the problems!!!!??

We need to do something about pollution and climate change because chances are....it will be a huge problem for our future lives....if we don't act now!!!


http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1165

Helen Wambach Ph. D.:

 

I think most Christians need to get their own house in order, to focus on their own inequities, then to practice love thy neighbor as thy self. Those who dispense judgment are hypocrite and a blight on their religion... judgment is the domain of God. I say any God who supports hate is not a God of good, but a god of evil.

 

Well said Robini123!

I am impressed how well a similar topic is going over on a Christian discussion forum:

http://www.christianforums.com/t7728763/


God's many plans for the Gay community???????

 

Just read this article again and plan on searching for the original in a few moments!

Got it....

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/january-february/my-train-wreck-conversion.html

My Train Wreck Conversion
As a leftist lesbian professor, I despised Christians. Then I somehow became one.
Rosaria Champagne Butterfield


One of the plans that I feel that God has for the Gay Community is to inspire them to become leaders, writers, producers, actors and actresses in a series of documentary, reality, semi-reality and purely fictional films that will address some of the most difficult and dangerous problems on earth??!!


http://www.politicalforum.com/middl...-expelled-judaea-after-bar-kochba-revolt.html
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Because Orthodox Jewish scholars firmly believe in the restoration of the lost tribes of Israel this new genetic research that indicates that the Palestinians are "Jewish" may play a significant role in genuine peace coming between Israelis and Palestinians!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsvi_Misinai

http://www.drbo.org/chapter/26048.htm
"And Elias the prophet stood up, as a fire, and his word burnt like a torch................Who anointedst kings to penance, and madest prophets successors after thee. [9] Who wast taken up in a whirlwind of fire, in a chariot of fiery horses. [10] Who art registered in the judgments of times to appease the wrath of the Lord, to reconcile the heart of the father to the son, and to restore the tribes of Jacob."

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My recommendation on how to get this one started is......(on second thought I should probably wait until somebody asks my advice)!!!!??

 

That's all well and good but do you know how fast a non believer gets banned on a forum like that? So quick you would not get a full blink in. That's what I have always found odd about christian forums they can come to an atheists forum and go forever but the minute an atheists shows up on one of their forums the BAN HAMMER comes down! That's why I never register on them discrimination abounds believe as I believe or your toast.

And what is it with Gays on this forum? Are people here so intimidated by them? Leave them the hell alone if they are not bothering you. It's their life let them live it. That's the biggest PROBLEM I see with religion it's constantly sticking it's DAMN nose into matters that does not concern it and dictating how people are suppose to live!

 

That's not necessarily true. I was just over at a Catholic forum and was able to find two oddities -- one forumite a self-described atheist, the other a pagan-- and between them they have nearly 4,000 posts. And the content of their posts is riddled with anti-Christian content.

 

Me thinks that homosexuals simply have a cross to bear in this life that most simply do not. Much like those born without the ability to walk. They have a disorder which they themselves must learn to cope with.

Not all coping strategies are successful nor righteous as per usual holy writ.

How do the LDS view homosexuals? Well, this is largely an individual matter. I don't speak for the whole of the church. But I do know that the LDS church doesn't condemn the person, but the behavior. We are commanded to love the person, not to ridicule them (been guilty of that in the past, and likely will be in the future), nor harm them, but to persuade them onto a path of righteousness.

That being said, I really think homosexuals are a two fold purpose. First being to test their fellow men, second to test themselves. I speak of the naturally born homosexuals who for whatever reasons, had some wires crossed at birth.

Now for those whose minds were polluted to think this is acceptable, righteous, and normal, those types who go where the winds of social trending blows them? Essentially they are a cult of that loser satan. Essentially the equivalent of demonic "useful idiots" who harm themselves in ways they don't fully understand, and also others by way of example and thus propagating the civilization destroying meme.

Many civilizations at their height of power, sharply declined after homosexuality/pedophilia became normalized. When there is no hope for the children, it would seem that God simply destroys that region to prevent them from further sin.

Rome, Pompeii, Greece, Sodom and Gomorrah.... Surely we could go on. Not saying it is causation, but I would say it is a correlation that should definitely be explored, and not ignored as the politically correct pundits would have us do.

If it were so natural, and so right, why should it be force fed to us to accept it?

 

Yeah well try that over at CARM or some of the other fundamentally brain washed forums.

 

The reason would be related to the misunderstanding that confuses what adults may or may not do inthe privacy of their own bedroom and what God deems bad for the younger generation to be taught by the examples, the dress codes, the overt desfriptions, the moviesn, the porn the TV, and all the adult talk about their sex lives.

To wit, the need for gays to tell the world, isist that everyone knows, make ure they embarrass their father, force their mother ro support them speaking out about their masturbating with the male friends, and bragging that they are "out" and proud of their sexual examples and promiscuous life style.

These behavior break up the families of Straight people who also becopme sexual promiscuous as the sexual mores are opened up, widen to express every kind of matter and issue, and pronounced safe and proper.

To wit:
The issue is promotion of sexual promiscuity, not the unseen unnoticed and unimportant personal sex life of these braggards.

 

Straights were engaged in sexual promiscuity, porn, ect. way before gays felt comfortable enough to stop hiding that they were gay.

You sure don't know the difference between homosexuality and sexual promiscuity, do you?

Lots of gays are monogamous. Lots of straights are promiscuous.

Gays don't influence straights to be that way. They just are.

 

Intriguing response Gemini-Fyre!!!

This topic ties in very well with this one:


http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...-suspect-natural-cures-cancer-suppressed.html

 

Gemini_Fyre.....I ran into some pretty astonishing material in my searches of parapsychology that I personally feel may fit perfectly with what Rabbi Jesus/Yeshua meant when he stated that John the Baptist was somehow....Elijah!!!???

It seems that ninety percent of volunteers in the Helen Wambach Ph. D. study, could be hypnotized....and virtually every woman saw some sort of "past lives" in which they were men.....and male volunteers were able to see "past lives" as women!!!!

My conclusion is that the Gay Community....is correct when they state that "they were born that way!"


http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1165

Helen Wambach Ph. D.:

 

Gemini_Fyre....I am of the opinion that the Helen Wambach Ph. D. studies and the Dr. Ian Stevenson research will soon be understood as verifiable, replicable, anecdotal evidence strongly indicative of the resurrection of the dead!

This research is not contradictory to the Bible.....if the NDE accounts are actually contact with the God of Abraham and/or the Spirit of Messiah/Moshiach stored in Gan Eden as a Jewish believer might say??!!

As a matter of fact I suspect that the Dr. Chet Snow research on visions of FUTURE lives....is anecdotal evidence that Ezekiel 37 rather than being merely a one time event....occurs again and again and again!!!??? Time looks like a menorah....and is not confined to being a straight line as we tend to limit it to being!!

 

I've done extensive studies of past and in between life studies, it appears the most common cause of homosexuality is incarnating as a man after many lifetimes in a row as a woman (or vice versa). As we mature, we tend to be more balanced in our gender choices.

 

Not sure how those who accept the generally-accepted idea of "Gays are born that way"....but who also say "God doesn't like homosexuality" AND "God made us all, we are a unique and divinely-inspired creation".....

resolve those lhree things together.

Hard to say "God hates homosexuality....but makes people innately homosexual"

 

Excellent post DentalFloss!!!

Thank you for confirming what I was suspecting already!!!

 

Great summary of another side to this issue cupid dave!!!

 

Dannion Brinkley, during one of his two near death experiences was shown that only the most philosophically advanced spirit beings/angels will volunteer to incarnate into the body of a human who is destined to be physically or mentally handicapped or hit with cancer at a young age!

I suspect that a similar principle applies to a body that is highly likely destined to be Gay!

A summary of his NDE is here and his book Saved By The Light is available on Scribid:

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence11.html


Some Near-Death Experiencers Foresee the Future

Dannion Brinkley's Veridical NDE

 

Have you ever read The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ by Levi Dowling?




http://reluctant-messenger.com/aquarian_gospel_036_042.htm

 

Interesting, but I am skeptical about all writings as it comes to the purported life of Jesus. As they were written decades after his death, it would be the modern day equivalent of someone, today, in 2013, writing an accurate biography about Dwight Eisenhower, but limiting themselves to only technology available in the first century, meaning only in person interviews with people who have first hand knowledge, or have heard others tell of such knowledge. It could be done, but it would not be very accurate, and most assuredly could not recall the many quotes attributed to him.

 

If God's plan is so obvious then why did it take you 5 years to understand it?