PLO Leader Admits Support for Nazis,

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    PLO Leader Admits Support for Nazis, Says They Saw Zionism as Common Enemy (VIDEO)


    Farouk Qaddumi, former head of the Palestinian Liberation Organization’s Political Bureau, said a shared hatred of Zionism bound the PLO leadership to Nazism, in an interview with Russia Today TV earlier this month. His comments weretranslated and re-broadcast by The Middle East Media Research Institute, MEMRI.

    When asked if the PLO was sympathetic with Nazi Germany in World War II, Qaddumi responded that members of the PLO “were enthusiastic supporters of Germany.”

    To clarify, the interviewer asked him, “You supported Hitler and his people?”

    “Germany, yes,” Qaddumi responded. “This was common among the Palestinians, especially since our enemy was Zionism, and we saw that Zionism was hostile to Germany, and vice versa.”

    The PLO also allowed a Nazi radio broadcast to be aired, he said.

    Watch the clip below:

    http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/12/1...-says-they-saw-zionism-as-common-enemy-video/
     
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    So he was less than 9 years old and later became a Baathist.
     
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    MEMRI blew it this time..

    The Nazis supported Zionism and tried to get Europe’s Jews deported to the Mideast... and there was NO PLO until 1964.
     
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    The Nazi supported Zionism?????????????????????????????????????????????
    This is a good one... Put you in a category by yourself... From now on everyone will take you seriously in sarcasm, name droppings and the like but <F> in history.
     
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    Do you understand Arabic, did you hear Qaddumi's own words? He is telling about the Arabs of Palestine sympathies for the Nazis, We have everything here from the horse's mouth your reaction/input is not needed here.
     
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    Of course the Nazis supported Zionism.. They wanted all the Jews to go to Palestine or the camps.. Some choice.

    From your link.

    " Mohammed Amin al-Husseini did not qualify as Mufti under Moslem law (he was too young and lacked sufficient knowledge of Islamic law). His title of Grand Mufti was bestowed on him by Sir Herbert Samuel.

    Hitler saw the Arabs as backward, inferior people. He was not inclined to speak to Husseini, or be in the same room with him. He only agreed to a 15-minute meeting with Husseini at the insistence of Heinrich Himmler (with whom Husseini became friends).

    Husseini told Himmler &#8220;not to send the Jews to Palestine,&#8221; but &#8220;to send them to the East, to Poland.&#8221;

    Thus, Husseini no longer could rationally claim to be the leader of Palestinian Nationalism, as he allied himself and his followers with the Nazi genocide of all Jews. He was subsequently tried, in abstentia, at Nuremberg and was found not guilty on all four counts of the indictment. As for his 30,000-man SS corps, &#8220;Frei Arabien,&#8221; no evidence exists that they were involved in atrocities against the Jews. Their main target was the destruction of the resistance in Yugoslavia and other Baltic countries in 1943-1944."
     
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    He was 8 years old in 1939... Do you think he was a political powerhouse?
     
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    Beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful... but...
    excuse me ... what this has to do with Qaddumi stating the Arabs of Palestine sided with the NAZIS????????????
     
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    Arabs here are modern nazis with laptops.
    Same hatred, same goal, different direction.
     
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    Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh were both Nazis sympathizers. What say you?
     
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    Small list of American Nazis. I just thought folks might like know that


    William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Kennedy (JFK's father), Charles Lindbergh, John Rockefeller, Andrew Mellon (head of Alcoa, banker, and Secretary of Treasury), DuPont, General Motors, Standard Oil (now Exxon), Ford, ITT, Allen Dulles (later head of the CIA), Prescott Bush, National City Bank, and General Electric.

    The following is excerpted from a report printed by the United States Senate Committee on the Judiciary in 1974:

    The activities of General Motors, Ford and Chrysler prior to and during World War II...are instructive. At that time, these three firms dominated motor vehicle production in both the United States and Germany. Due to its mass production capabilities, automobile manufacturing is one of the most crucial industries with respect to national defense. As a result, these firms retained the economic and political power to affect the shape of governmental relations both within and between these nations in a manner which maximized corporate global profits. In short, they were private governments unaccountable to the citizens of any country yet possessing tremendous influence over the course of war and peace in the world. The substantial contribution of these firms to the American war effort in terms of tanks, aircraft components, and other military equipment is widely acknowledged. Less well known are the simultaneous contributions of their foreign subsidiaries to the Axis Powers. In sum, they maximized profits by supplying both sides with the materiel needed to conduct the war.

    During the 1920's and 1930's, the Big Three automakers undertook an extensive program of multinational expansion...By the mid-1930's, these three American companies owned automotive subsidiaries throughout Europe and the Far East; many of their largest facilities were located in the politically sensitive nations of Germany, Poland, Rumania, Austria, Hungary, Latvia, and Japan...Due to their concentrated economic power over motor vehicle production in both Allied and Axis territories, the Big Three inevitably became major factors in the preparations and progress of the war. In Germany, for example, General Motors and Ford became an integral part of the Nazi war efforts. GM's plants in Germany built thousands of bomber and jet fighter propulsion systems for the Luftwaffe at the same time that its American plants produced aircraft engines for the U.S. Army Air Corps....

    Ford was also active in Nazi Germany's prewar preparations. In 1938, for instance, it opened a truck assembly plant in Berlin whose "real purpose," according to U.S. Army Intelligence, was producing "troop transport-type" vehicles for the Wehrmacht. That year Ford's chief executive received the Nazi German Eagle (first class)....

    The outbreak of war in September 1939 resulted inevitably in the full conversion by GM and Ford of their Axis plants to the production of military aircraft and trucks.... On the ground, GM and Ford subsidiaries built nearly 90 percent of the armored "mule" 3-ton half-trucks and more than 70 percent of the Reich's medium and heavy-duty trucks. These vehicles, according to American intelligence reports, served as "the backbone of the German Army transportation system."....

    After the cessation of hostilities, GM and Ford demanded reparations from the U.S. Government for wartime damages sustained by their Axis facilities as a result of Allied bombing... Ford received a little less than $1 million, primarily as a result of damages sustained by its military truck complex at Cologne...

    Due to their multinational dominance of motor vehicle production, GM and Ford became principal suppliers for the forces of fascism as well as for the forces of democracy. It may, of course, be argued that participating in both sides of an international conflict, like the common corporate practice of investing in both political parties before an election, is an appropriate corporate activity. Had the Nazis won, General Motors and Ford would have appeared impeccably Nazi; as Hitler lost, these companies were able to re-emerge impeccably American. In either case, the viability of these corporations and the interests of their respective stockholders would have been preserved.

    In 1940 Graeme K. Howard, Vice President of General Motors, published America and a New World Order, in which he advised that America give full cooperation to the Nazi regime. In his book he blames FDR for causing the war in Europe and goes on to say that the fascists should be supported as the better alternative to the spread of Communism.
     
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    The hate that so many talk about in America today, it runs much deeper then many would imagine, and it is founded in much more substantial ideas then most would think as well.

    Ford helped shape Hitler's views on the Jews, and those of many people around he world.

    At the Nuremberg Trials Baldur Von Shirach claimed that Henry Ford was the primary inspiration for his anti-Semitism.

    Shirach, a former Nazi youth leader, stated: "You have no idea what a great influence this book had on the thinking of the German youth…I read Henry Ford's book 'The International Jewry'…and became anti-Semitic."

    http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Holocaust/verdicts.html
     
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    Farouk Kaddoumi was born in the town of Jinsafut near Nablus and later his family moved to Jaffa in present-day Israel. During the 1948 Arab-Israeli War they fled to Nablus in the West Bank. For three years in the early 1950s he worked in Saudi Arabia for the Arab-American Petroleum Company (ARAMCO). In 1954 he moved to Egypt and while studying economy and political science at the Cairo University, he joined the Baath party.

    In 1960 he joined Fatah in the United Arab Emirates. In 1965 and 1966 he worked for the ministry of health of Kuwait but in 1966 was expelled from the country for anti-governmental activities connected with the PLO. By 1969 he became one of key figures in the PLO and after 1973 he headed its political department in Damascus, Syria.

    In 1976, Arafat and Kaddoumi met with Meir Vilner and Tawfik Toubi, heads of Rakah (New Communist List), which had developed after the 1965 split in the Israeli Communist Party, and from which Hadash eventually developed. This meeting led to a close cooperation.

    Kaddoumi participated in the activities of Said al-Muragha (Abu Musa) group, including the 1983 mutiny attempt against Yassir Arafat (see Fatah Uprising), but switched sides and was assigned to the Central Committee of Fatah. He has been living in Tunis since the early 1980s, where the PLO was based after it evacuated Lebanon. In 1985, he claimed that Leon Klinghoffer was pushed over the side of the Achille Lauro by his wife for the insurance money.[1]

    At the beginning of the 1990s, he served as the head of the PLO's political department.[2] After the Oslo accords in 1993, which he opposed as a betrayal of the PLO's principles, he refused to move to the Palestinian territories with the rest of the leadership to set up the Palestinian National Authority (PNA).

    From exile, he continued to advocate a hardline stance towards Israel, refused cooperation with the PNA and repeatedly embarrassed the PLO during negotiations with Israel by making statements denying the Jewish state's right to exist. This led to him being sidelined in Palestinian politics for over a decade, as the center of power moved to Gaza and then Ramallah.

    continued

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farouk_Kaddoumi
     
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    From the Link below (the link is leading to an organisation of the Italian Roman Catholic Church):

    The SS was particularly enthusiastic in its support for Zionism. An internal June 1934 SS position paper urged active and wide-ranging support for Zionism by the government and the Party as the best way to encourage emigration of Germany&#8217;s Jews to Palestine. This would require increased Jewish self-awareness. Jewish schools, Jewish sports leagues, Jewish cultural organizations &#8212; in short, everything that would encourage this new consciousness and self-awareness &#8211; should be promoted, the paper recommended.8

    SS officer Leopold von Mildenstein and Zionist Federation official Kurt Tuchler toured Palestine together for six months to assess Zionist development there. Based on his firsthand observations, von Mildenstein wrote a series of twelve illustrated articles for the important Berlin daily Der Angriff that appeared in late 1934 under the heading &#8220;A Nazi Travels to Palestine.&#8221; The series expressed great admiration for the pioneering spirit and achievements of the Jewish settlers. Zionist self-development, von Mildenstein wrote, had produced a new kind of Jew. He praised Zionism as a great benefit for both the Jewish people and the entire world. A Jewish homeland in Palestine, he wrote in his concluding article, &#8220;pointed the way to curing a centuries-long wound on the body of the world: the Jewish question.&#8221; Der Angriff issued a special medal, with a Swastika on one side and a Star of David on the other, to commemorate the joint SS-Zionist visit. A few months after the articles appeared, von Mildenstein was promoted to head the Jewish affairs department of the SS security service in order to support Zionist migration and development more effectively. 9

    The official SS newspaper, Das Schwarze Korps, proclaimed its support for Zionism in a May 1935 front-page editorial: &#8220;The time may not be too far off when Palestine will again be able to receive its sons who have been lost to it for more than a thousand years. Our good wishes, together with official goodwill, go with them.&#8221;

    .....
    The centerpiece of German-Zionist cooperation during the Hitler era was the Transfer Agreement, a pact that enabled tens of thousands of German Jews to migrate to Palestine with their wealth. The Agreement, also known as the Haavara (Hebrew for &#8220;transfer&#8221;), was concluded in August 1933 following talks between German officials and Chaim Arlosoroff, Political Secretary of the Jewish Agency, the Palestine center of the World Zionist Organization. 32
    ....
    The Ha&#8217;avara agreement greatly contributed to Jewish development in Palestine and thus, indirectly, to the foundation of the Israeli state. A January 1939 German Foreign Office circular bulletin reported, with some misgiving, that &#8220;the transfer of Jewish property out of Germany [through the Ha'avara agreement] contributed to no small extent to the building of a Jewish state in Palestine.&#8221;43

    Former officials of the Ha&#8217;avara company in Palestine confirmed this view in a detailed study of the Transfer Agreement published in 1972: &#8220;The economic activity made possible by the influx German capital and the Haavara transfers to the private and public sectors were of greatest importance for the country&#8217;s development. Many new industries and commercial enterprises were established in Jewish Palestine, and numerous companies that are enormously important even today in the economy of the State of Israel owe their existence to the Haavara.&#8221;44

    Dr. Ludwig Pinner, a Ha&#8217;avara company official in Tel Aviv during the 1930s, later commented that the exceptionally competent Ha&#8217;avara immigrants &#8220;decisively contributed&#8221; to the economic, social, cultural and educational development of Palestine&#8217;s Jewish community.45
    .....
    The Transfer Agreement was the most far-reaching example of cooperation between Hitler&#8217;s Germany and international Zionism. Through this pact, Hitler&#8217;s Third Reich did more than any other government during the 1930s to support Jewish development in Palestine
    End of quote

    They didn't mention that Israeli Jaffa Orages during that time had King David surrounded by two Swastikas as company sign, that Nazi Germany after prohibiting Jews to raise the Swastika flag officially allowed them to raise the flag of the Zionists, Star of David in Blue on White, today's flag of Israel and that the Nazis set up 100 training camps in Germany and 40 in Austria to prepare settlers for a life in Palestine. Responsible: Adolf Eichmann who spoke fluently Hebrew and once joined a protest march in Vienna when the grave of Theodor Herzl had been desacrated. Over the training camps, in one of which the "Kibbuz" was invented, flew the Zionist flag /see above).

    I do not remeber to have been taught about those facts, neither in school history nor in contempory articles about the history of Nazi Germany or Israel. That has as the core problem the definition of "fraud". Fraud is not only the deliberate alteration, but also the deliberate suppression of relevant information. In short: "History" as we know it is a case of fraud. There are some question open to be answered by our own teachers and leaders, in particular politicians and academic historians. As long as this is not the case and not all details of real history are known ethical and moral judgements like the above, the title of the present topic, are misleading and wrong, being based on fabricated evidence and a faulty legend.

    http://www.effedieffe.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=9185&Itemid=152

    About Haavara:

    http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Oth...nToNazis/ThePactBetweenHitler&TheZionists.htm

    About the origin of Jewish Palestine in the 20th century:

    http://www.bearcanada.com/fae/israel/benjaminfreedmanspeech.html
     
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    Appears to be well documented...............
     
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    you have posted a lot of things that i find as a complexity of inanity fuelled by a hatred towards the state of Israel.

    Like all things stemming from propaganda and political brainwashing , one will view the person stating complex inane stances to secure their belief system on a political matter.

    it's a joy to see it in action when one is bored&#8230;but sadly one realizes this is a person&#8230;lost in space&#8230;lol..and must be rescued.
     
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    If you want my opinion: I have no problems with Israel. I have problems with people lying.
     
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    Arabs are lying, do you have a problem with them ?
     
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    You apparently know much about Israel's history since 1950... Zionism is another pernicious misguided ISM that has caused a tremendous amount of death, theft and abuse.. and terrible problems for the US.

    And, FYI.. all Israelis are not hardliners who would deny Palestinians their civil rights and property.

    Zionism is fueled on a steady diet of fear and propaganda.. Jewish people deserve better than that.
     
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    And many more :


    https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...mqjWl7sqNBFfK1l3sLENLMEm7oa11MMgIw_fRcEggBfw8






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    also : From ther American-German Bund. There was many Americans with their traditional Anti-British sentiments who'd have gladly wished to see Britain defeated by Adolf. I recall reading of parties being celebrated in America (fence sitting neutrals) during the boming of British cities by Nazi aircraft. IMO - its unlikely that US would have entered WW2 , if it wasn't for Imperial Japan's rude wake up call at Pearl Harbour.

    tata
    Also see this :

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    American Public support for the Nazis .


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    IMO - that';s only a very small number of named Americans - of various ethnic groups who held Anti-British sentiments , who sided/favoured Adolf . It was only AFTER the rude wake up call at Pearl Harbour, when most FENCE SITTING- Americans was swayed against Adolf.
     
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    Well let's use the same argument as is being used the opposite way round in another thread. Care to show me where the Arabs have Jews in camps and have made a plan to systematically exterminate them. I think not.
     
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    You posted an accurate part of American history. I appreciate that.

    I wan't to ask you one question. Before Pearl Harbor, who or what was keeping us from going to war with Germany to protect our allies?

    It is like now, we are fighting for compromise. Our people must compromise. Slipping into fascism is a very real possibility based on our history. We came very close then and we are very close now.

    We have different value systems. We have an authoritarian sect which is extremely conservative and an extremely liberal sect. All the rest of us won't to work it out but we both have to give up something in the mix that is not too over the top for the other. Liberals like to share, authoritarians like to control. There has to be a balance of values to live in a civilized society (not necessarily a happy one).
     
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    actually not really&#8230;
    the world was still in a depression&#8230;Hitler was printing newly formed Riech Marks and created a false economy&#8230;he was employing huge numbers of people to create a war economy&#8230;

    people in the west thought he had the right idea about nationalizing the country..

    people did not know what he was really intending to do.

    my grandfather supported the fascist ideal and wore a hitler moustache at the time and thought mussolinni was also one of the good guys..

    what people are doing here at pf is no worse than the propaganda hitler's nazi party was putting out..

    as for your lat paragraph ..do yourself a favour and don;t look to marrow and her cronies for understanding anything&#8230;for they skew history to suit their hatred towards Israel&#8230;.
     
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    Two concentration camps in Egypt for instance Abu Zaabal and Turra...

    EGYPT:- IT BEGAN IN MAY 1967
    In Egypt, all Jews regardless of nationality, were required to register at the end of May 1967.
    Obviously, for Nasser-who had closed the Straits of Tiran to Israel shipping a few days earlier and was massing a formidable armored force on Israel's southern border-the war was on, and he wanted to be ready to swoop down on the country's Jewish population at a moment's notice.
    And, indeed, when full-scale fighting broke out on 5 June, the Egyptian Police struck: nearly all able-bodied Jewish men between 20 and 50 were arrested and incarcerated in crowded cells, under inhuman conditions.
    (From Newsletter published by American Jewish Committee, Institute of Human Relations, December 1967)

    TESTIMONY OF AN EGYPTIAN JEWISH REFUGEE
    The following is the testimony of a Jew, one of those expelled from Egypt, on the hardships that he suffered from the time of his arrest on 5 June 1967 until he left Egypt. (In this as in the testimonies that follow, full personal details have been withheld, to protect members of the family still residing in Egypt, Iraq and Syria, respectively.)
    Name: Saliman K.
    Age: 55
    Occupation: Owner of a cosmetics firm in Alexandria
    Present place of residence: BatYam, Israel
    On 5 June 1967, at 8 o'clock in the morning, about seven officers and police pounded on the door of my apartment and asked me to accompany them for "five minutes". As an experienced person, I already knew what it was all about, and I managed to take a sum of money with me.
    Together with other Jews, I was transported to the "Sharif" Police Station in Alexandria and 22 of us were placed in a small detention cell. Among us were boys aged 16-17, and there were also three old men of 80 and over. In the cell with us was also the Chief Rabbi of the Alexandria Jewish Community, Haham Nafusi. We stayed in that small cell about three days, without any sanitary arrangements and without food. At first they did not bring us even water, and when I applied to one of the prison officers about this, he answered very clearly: "It is better that you die like this than by gas.,,
    On the second day of detention, the condition of one of the old men became grave, because of the lack of water, and he actually appeared to be dying. Our shouts did not move the warders from their hard-heartedness. I therefore used the proven method of "bakshish". I took a ball-point pen apart and put a five-pound note into its tube. In a whisper I called to the warder who
    was standing guard alongside the cell door and I passed the tube to him through the hole of the lock. I whispered: "Water, water!" At first the man appeared to be at a loss and was perplexed; then he disappeared for a minute and returned with his mouth full of water; he placed the pen tube in his mouth and again, through the hole of the lock, spurted the water inside. On the other side, we held the fainting old man with his mouth to the hole and the water was poured into his throat.
    Only early on the third day of detention, after we had sent off a letter to the Police Commander in the Rabbi's name, in which he adjured him by Allah, did one of the warders appear and place a bucket of water in the middle of the cell. We drank from the bucket like horses. On the same day, we shouted, demanding food. Once, when I shouted, armed police burst into the cell. We pretended to be sleeping. They went from one to the other of us, demanding that he say something so as to identify the shouter by his voice. When they reached me, they recognized my voice, and I admitted that I had shouted. They immediately attacked me and wanted to carry out an act of sodomy on me, but the terrible screams of my cell companions frightened them off and they left me.

    Abu-Za'abal
    After three days of detention, I was put onto a truck together with 22 other Jews, and we were taken to Abu Za'abal Prison, near Cairo. Here there were 600 Jews, among them old men and young boys, and also among us were men suffering from diabetes and various heart ailments.
    In the prison we were placed in cells measuring 5 by 8 metres. Seventy men were put into one cell. Here the prison warders abused us incessantly. They would hit us on the back and on the soles of our feet. They enjoyed seeing us racked with pain. Each day they forced us to shout in chorus: "Long live Abdul Nasser!" "Down with the Anglo-American imperialists!", "Palestine for the Arabs!" Whoever did not shout with all his might was placed by the warders in front of the rest and they would beat him until blood flowed.
    They forced Rabbi Nafusi to climb up to the iron bars, to hang there and declare with the rest, "Long live Abdul Nasser!" If he did not shout with all his might, he was struck. After two days, he was released from the prison and returned to Alexandria.
    For 25 days I stayed in the prison until, as a national of a foreign State, I was given attention; I was then transferred from the prison, with 11 Jews of Greek and Spanish nationality, to a Russian ship anchored in Alexandria port. The ship brought us to Cyprus. From Nicosia I succeeded in contacting my wife and three children in Alexandria. I instructed them to apply to the Consulate of the State of which I am a citizen to handle their departure from Alexandria. After a fortnight, my wife and children left Egypt and came to me.

    Broken in Body and Spirit
    Afterwards I went with my family to Naples. While I was in Naples I used to visit the port from time to time to see whether, among those arriving from Egypt, there were relatives and friends of mine. The scenes that I witnessed in Naples were terrible. Each day Jewish refugees from Egypt arrived at the port and the same suffering and torture could be seen in their faces and on their bodies. Most of them had been imprisoned in the "Ezbekia" Police Station in Cairo. They arrived with shaven heads and broken limbs. Some were without teeth, on others there were signs of cigarette burns on their faces. A boy aged 16 arrived with all the fingers of his hands cut off!
    All the Jews expelled from Egypt were foreign nationals. Jews of Egyptian nationality were transferred at the beginning of the year to the El-Toura prison near Cairo. Since then, not one Jew has been released from that prison, and, according to what is told by the prisoners' relatives who reach Naples, those detained are suffering from nervous breakdowns; some of them tried to commit suicide, and others are known to have died in the prison.
    The unfortunate situation of these Jews who are left in Egypt is well known to me as a person who lived there. In the name of humanity, I declare that everything must be done to help these people and to assist them to get out of the hell in which they are now.
     

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