Mass Graves Of Civilians Found In Ukraine

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  1. Jeannette

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    In a village near Donetsk, three mass graves were found with bodies bearing signs of violent deaths. Ukrainian National Guard forces consisting of the Right Sector and Swaboda Nazi parties were stationed in the area two days before they were found, and according to locals they had dug the graves.

    These findings were confirmed by the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission in Ukraine. A plaque on one of them said: 'Died for Putin's lies', when it should have said is: 'Died for Washington and its corporate media lies', because they're the ones that cover up their crimes, and support Nazis for their own self interests.

    One of the victim's mother said her twenty one year old son was taken by the guards and told that he would be exchanged, but no one exchanged anyone, they were all killed.


    "...Mass graves with bodies bearing signs of violent death, and grieving relatives of those who were identified: That was the blood-curdling scene witnessed by an RT crew in a village near the city of Donetsk, in eastern Ukraine.

    Among the four victims was 21-year-old Nikita Kolomiytsev, a local resident, whose grieving mother arrived at the scene of mass graves to identify her son.

    “I couldn’t stand for him to be killed and thrown like a dog somewhere – I had to come and identify him,” Nikita's mother, Galina, told RT.

    Galina said she fled to central Ukraine to take her younger 16-year-old son out of harm's way, but she felt she’d “failed to protect” her elder son.

    “The Ukrainian army took [Nikita]away… my husband went there and told them – take me instead of my son. But they said they had taken him for a further prisoner swap.”

    “No one exchanged anybody for anybody. They just shot them dead here outside the village and threw them into the ground... like dogs,” she added, sobbing..."



    http://rt.com/news/191236-ukraine-mass-graves-exhumation/
     
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    But this will be silent Western media. For sheep is classified information. Suddenly stupid sheep begin to think? Therefore, Western media better talk about "exceptional nation" and same-sex marriage.
     
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    this will only strengthen the separatist cause, since now being captured will likely led to this outcome , so its best to fight to the death.
     
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    The other day, I referred to the Ukrainian military for the first time, openly, as 'fascist'. There was then some debate as to whether that is objective journalistic terminology.

    As many here, I have lost people I called friends to the Ukrainian military. Further, they have taken me captive twice, stolen 2 expensive bulletproof vests (not mine, RT's it must be said), my car, money, possessions. Detained for over 100 hours by them, threatened, life put in danger, it goes on.

    But, I'm still objective about them. And there is now so much evidence of the neo-Nazi idolation, practice, physical representation of Ukraine military, that calling them fascists is nothing other than a statement of fact.

    Calling a fascist a fascist is exactly what a journalist should do.
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    This sheds more light at essence of Ukrainian nationalism. These people deserve death.
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The militia knew what the National Guard as well as para militaries such as Aidar, Azov, and some others were doing, and they responded to those units differently than they did to the regular conscripted Ukrainian soldiers. Russia notified the UN at the beginning about people in Kiev disappearing, and now the UN realizes that people were being killed for their body parts, even wounded Ukrainian soldiers.

    As for the clip, I read a book and a German colonel located in France said at Nuremburg that in the West the German army complied with the Geneva convention, but in the East they simply slaughtered one another.
     
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    Here's a video from Russia Insider showing Poroshenko giving medals to the neo Nazi Azov battalion, which is under the Minister of the Interior Averof and who can be seen standing next to Poroshenko on the right side of the video. The battalion is financially supported by Kolomoisky the owner of Burisma Holdings.

    The Azov is know to have committed some of the worse atrocities in Ukraine, and Vladimir Putin has an arrest warrant out for both Averof and Kolomoisky for bombing and killing civilians in Slaviansk and also for using white phosperous. It is alleged that they were also behind the burning alive and hacking of protesters in Odessa, as well as being involved in the shoot down of the air liner.


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    And here's the latest. More than four hundred bodies have been found in mass graves near the city of Donetsk and Lavrov said that he hoped Western governments will not hush up these facts because there was an apparent blackout of the war crimes in the Western mass media.

    The Nuvorussiya militia believe that the civilians were murdered by the National Guard fighters who had been staying in the village. . Ukrainian authorities denied the accusation, and said that not a single National Guard fighter was in the area, although other Ukrainian units were deployed there at the time.

    And now the hypocrisy, Kiev said that it wants to conduct an open and impartial probe of the massacre as soon as it regained control of the area. In other words the same ones who committed the crimes, now want to conduct an investigation into the crimes. No doubt Washington will support this, I mean they can't lose out on all the shale gas in Eastern Ukraine just because the people object. Better to kill them off or scare them away.

    One company which has been given the rights to develop shale gas fields in Eastern Ukraine is Burisma Holdings. Burisma Holdings is owned by Governor Igor Kolomoisky who financially supports the Azov, Aidar and other militias which have committed major atrocities in the Donbas area. Other than his men being under suspicion for such things as the Odessa fire and the shoot down of the airliner, Russia also has an arrest warrant out for him for bombing of civilian areas in Slaviansk with white phosphorous so it could be ethnically cleansed. Slaviansk contains the strongest deposit of shale gas, and the people there had objected strongly to fracking.

    Hunter Biden, the son of US Vice President Biden has been made a member of the Board of Directors of Burisma Holdings, as well as David Leiter, former Senate chief of staff to Secretary of State John Kerry, and Devon Archer, former adviser to John’s Kerry 2004 presidential campaign...if one should wonder why the lives of the people in the Donbas have become so inconsequential to the powers that be.


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    http://en.itar-tass.com/world/752232

    MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. Sergei Litvinov, a private of the Dnieper battalion has admitted killing women and children in the Luhansk region for remuneration offered by tycoon Ihor Kolomoyskyi, Russia’s Investigative Committee spokesman Vladimir Markin said on Wednesday.

    The Russian Investigative Committee has brought official charges against Sergei Litvinov for murdering innocent civilians during the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine

    “Litvinov has testified that he personally killed peaceful civilians, including women and children who were not linked to the military conflict, in the villages of Melovoye, Shirokiy, Makarovo and Kamyshnoye /in Ukraine’s Lugansk region/on the basis of information provided by anonymous sources,” Vladimir Markin, the head of the Russian Investigative Committee, said, adding Litvinov had received remuneration from oligarch Igor Kolomoisky’s personal funds for committing the murders.

    "I would like to calm those who are going to accuse us of bringing the man into Russia from the territory of another state: this man has entered the Russian territory himself disguised as a peaceful civilian in order to be admitted to hospital. At present, Litvinov has been arrested and will be escorted to Moscow soon to undergo a psychological examination,” Markin said.

    A psychological examination is a standard procedure required when someone is suspected of committing grave crimes against human life and health.

    Russian investigators know names of Ukrainian commanders performing criminal orders

    Russia's Investigations Committee knows the names of commanders of Ukrainian Armed Forces units who perform criminal orders of the Ukrainian state leaders, Vladimir Markin, the official spokesman for the committee said on Wednesday.

    "Today we have the names of many commanders of army units, as well as militants of the Right Sector and the National Guard who are performing criminal orders of the Ukrainian military and state leadership," he said.

    Case against Ihor Kolomoyskyi

    Basmanny district court of Moscow arrested in absentia the Governor of east-central Ukraine’s Dnipropetrovsk Region Ihor Kolomoyskyi in July. Russian law enforcement agencies accuse Kolomoyskyi of masterminding murders and use of banned ways and methods of warfare. He is suspected of initiating and financing military operations in south-eastern Ukraine, where over 3,000 people have been killed since April, according to the UN human rights office. Kolomoyskyi was put on international wanted list on June 21.

    Kolomoyskyi, according to open sources, is one of the richest Ukrainian citizens, founder of the Privat financial and industrial group. Upon the decision of the Verkhovna Rada, Kolomoyskyi was appointed Governor of the Dnipropetrovsk region. In this office, he declared an active fight against the Donetsk and Luhansk people’s republics and proposed to form at his expense military units for a raid against them.
     
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    This is a "heart warming" news to the Maidan junta in Kiev and its proponents in this discussion. Perhaps, entire Ukrainian government is a bunch of criminals awaiting justice in some form.
     
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    Absolute silence from the "Putin is Hitler" crowd? Color me surprised.
     
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    Kolomoisky was appointed governor at the suggestion of Yulia Tymoshenko, and I believe Odessa falls in his region. He and the Minister of the Interior Averkov are both suspected of the atrocities which had occurred at the fire in Odessa, and someone did post a recording of him saying a few things about it which were quite incriminating. As for the airliner, the controller at the airport said that the Ministry of the Interior knew about the shoot down immediately, and that the Ministry of the Defense did not know anything about it.

    Burisma Holdings is also the murky company which had lobbied heavily in Washington DC to keep the blame on Vladimir Putin about the plane shoot down. As for Kolomoisky, he did own a few airlines so he did know his way around airports and he had the money and connections to commit a crime of that magnitude. The transcripts and the information in the black boxes have never been revealed to the public.
     
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    Interesting what punishment can be used by Russians, if those men get caught and convicted? In old communist time they would be shot or sent to Gulag to work to death.
     
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    I think Russia wants a Nuremburg type of trial, so people can see the hypocrisy of the U.S. and the E.U. and the criminals they were working with. Russian authorities have been interviewing prisoners and refugees to find out the names of the ones who committed crimes, and they are all listed in what they call their White books. I think Russia is hoping for an open and shut case on the top conchos...maybe even Yatsenuk, because for all his Nazism it seems he's the hardest one to convict. :oldman:
     
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    Putin should be tried and hanged for his war crimes.
     
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    I guess so. There will be a lot of bubbling there. However, I doubt this would impress American media or the government. Both are cynical and will try to remain mute about the event. May be American public will never know of this trials.
     
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    Russia’s foreign minister said on Wednesday that 400 bodies had been found in mass graves in eastern Ukraine but the claim looked highly contentious after it emerged that reports from the scene had been distorted by Russian media.

    Rossiyskaya Gazeta, the government newspaper, described Mr Graudins as being there “with a team of OSCE experts” and having visited the “mass burial sites in Donetsk region where more than 400 civilians and executed rebels were discovered”.

    RIA Novosti, the influential state-run news agency, ran the headline: “OSCE expert: about 400 bodies found in burial sites near Donetsk.”

    However, a close reading of Mr Graudins’ comments shows that he spoke only of 400 unidentified bodies being located in Donetsk morgues, where many bodies of victims from the armed conflict in eastern Ukraine have been taken.

    Casting more doubt on the veracity of the reports, the OSCE published a statement saying that Mr Graudins – who is actually a pro-Russian activist in Latvia – had “no link whatsoever” to the organisation.


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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...dies-discovered-in-Ukrainian-mass-graves.html

    So.... another lie from another pro-russian liar. Nothing special
     
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    Elf, the article in the Telegraph is referring to what was found by Wednesday. Lavrov's statement was a later one, it refers to what was found on Thursday not Wednesday. Now the Telegraph did not make that mistake by accident. They are deliberately trying to give the impression that the Russian press is lying. It's called propaganda.
     
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    btw
    terrorists-seps firing from living house
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    no doubt they would be much like the Slansky trials and the rest of the Soviet kangaroo courts.
     
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    Sure looks that way, except to the war crazies in Europe and America.
    USA sends gifts for First Day of school in NovoRussia, 01 October 2014
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    What war crimes, putting Khodorovsky in jail for not paying his taxes? :roflol:
     
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    Ronstar should recall what happened to the USA puppet judge who ordered the death of Saddam Hussein.
    He was killed by USA ISIS gurus.
    So much for loyalty from your masters towards their puppets.
     
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    the "Ashkenazi military"????

    no such thing exists.

    sounds like an anti-Semitic slur.
     
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    I don't agree with such a way of moderation.
    So Good Bye.
    At least for three days
     

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