Survey: Americans support gun control

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  1. Galileo

    Galileo Well-Known Member

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    "A new survey published in the journal Preventive Medicine finds that a large majority of Americans, including gun owners, support strengthening policies to prevent gun violence....

    "About 85% of gun owners and 83% of non-owners said they favored requiring background checks for all gun sales. In 2013, 84% of gun owners and 90% of non-owners favored such a policy.

    "The survey found a clear majority of respondents, 63%, favoring banning assault weapons, though this was lower than the 69% who supported such a ban in the 2013 poll."
    http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/news/306149421.html

    So why haven't new laws been passed to keep guns out of the wrong hands and protect the rights of innocent Americans from gun violence? Gun rights extremists have organized themselves into special interest groups which are able to thwart the democratic and constitutional process. James Madison warned about the evils of such groups:

    "By a faction, I understand a number of citizens, whether amounting to a majority or a minority of the whole, who are united and actuated by some common impulse of passion, or of interest, adversed to the rights of other citizens, or to the permanent and aggregate interests of the community."

    And so the slaughter continues as long as such groups are able to exercise a disproportionate amount of influence over the people's elected representatives.
     
  2. Galileo

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlotte-hill/to-end-school-shootings-gun-control_b_5489209.html
     
  3. Bastiats libertarians

    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    Except the cyanide lie in all that is "assault weapons" aka semi automatic rifles are not responsible for 98% of all fun related deaths in America. Anyone with a brain can see that. And most firearm related murderers either passed a background check or bought the firearm illegally. All of that combined means background checks and banning semi automatic rifles will not stop anything. I also in no way believe the results on the poll. What did they poll the upper west side of New York?

    Jesus Christ did you even dig into the study before you posted this? Go look up the polling they did before making this claim on science direct
     
  4. OrlandoChuck

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    More than 1,300 people responded to the national survey conducted by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research and the Bloomberg School of Public Health.

    Both of these organizations have always been anti gun proponents.


    This survey was only 1300 people out of a country of more than 300 million. Not very representative of the bulk of Americans.

    Other polls and research disputes this.

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/179045/less-half-americans-support-stricter-gun-laws.aspx
    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Less than half of Americans, 47%, say they favor stricter laws covering the sale of firearms, similar to views found last year. But this percentage is significantly below the 58% recorded in 2012 after the school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, spurred a nationwide debate about the possibility of more stringent gun control laws. Thirty-eight percent of Americans say these laws should be kept as they are now, and 14% say they should be made less strict.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/12/gun-rights-support-poll-113476.html
    For the first time in over 20 years, Americans support gun rights more than gun control.
    In a Pew Research poll released Wednesday, 52 percent are in support of the protection of gun rights and 46 percent support gun control. This is the first time in two decades that Pew has found more support for gun rights than gun control.


    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/12/us/gun-control-gun-rights-pew-survey.html?_r=0
    Two years after the mass school shooting in Newtown, Conn., a majority of Americans say it is more important to protect the right of Americans to own guns than for the government to limit access to firearms, a Pew Research Center survey conducted this month found.

    Your contention that the minority control the majority is a fallacy.

    Gun owners are not for mandatory background checks on used guns. They know what the rest of America doesn't. The fact that they can't be enforced without gun registration. Anyone who is a supporter of the 2A will fight gun registration. It is the pathway to future gun confiscation.
     
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    Bastiats libertarians Well-Known Member

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    Follow the link in the article back to science direct. Do a search on firearms and you will see the whole thing is a mouth piece for a gun control agenda. Now start doing a search on the name of the authors. 2 out of 4 that I looked up are part of anti firearm groups.
     
  6. OrlandoChuck

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    The Bloomberg name kind of gave it away.
     
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    the questions from anti gun pollsters are designed to bolster their Graboid idiocy.

    if the average gun owner was told that the only way a UBGC can be enforced was complete and total registration, how many would support that

    how many know that the brady bill did nothing to stop gun crime
     
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    Wow, a total fail for several reasons.

    First, the actual study and report in "Preventive Medicine" has to be purchased. Posting about a source that is not available to the public is pretty low but seems to be typical of gun banners these days.

    Second, the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health web site discusses the paper, and makes a blatant lie:

    http://www.jhsph.edu/news/news-rele...ers-support-stronger-gun-safety-policies.html

    "More than 11,000 people in the United States are killed each year as a result of gun homicides..."

    From the FBI Uniform Crime Report, in 2013 (latest data), there were 8,438 firearm related homicides. Not more than 11,000 as Johns Hopkins claims.

    Michael Bloomberg, the man who banned large sodas, tried to force women to breast feed, and wants to ban firearms, bought Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health for over $1.1 Billion. Obviously, that much money is enough to make a formerly premier academic institution flat out lie.


    The gun debate is over. The data proves gun banners are wrong, the public has turned against the banners. The gun banners have lost in every state of the nation. Now all the banners can do is lie and refer to surveys that can't be seen.
     
  9. Bowerbird

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    No gun rights groups EVER intimidate - haven't you heard? If four women meet in a coffee shop 40 armed civilians can gather outside protesting and that is NOT intimidation

    Americas first amendment is under fire from the rabid "defenders" of the second amendment.
     
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    funny you say that after threatening the US........attempting to silence the gun owners......sha!!!
    by the way, you ever come up with proof that anyone brandished a weapon at that peaceful protest?
     
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    I'm not sure that a study done by the John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health is exactly non-biased, considering that it's namesake (named after he gave $107 million to the school) is a primary funder of anti-gun groups in this country.
     
  12. OrlandoChuck

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    Do a search for how much different special interest groups spend in Washington. Other groups spend hundreds of millions. What the NRA spends is chump change. I don't see the NRA even close to the top spenders.
    https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s

    Your article says the CDC has been prevented from doing a gun violence study.... Wrong...

    In the wake of the Sandy Hook tragedy, President Obama issued a list of Executive Orders. Notably among them, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) was given $10 million to research gun violence.

    The Institute of Medicine and the National Research Council released the results of their research through the CDC last month. Researchers compiled data from previous studies in order to guide future research on gun violence, noting that “almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals.
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/cdc-study-use-firearms-self-defense-important-crime-deterrent
     
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    None of which serves to invalidate the findings of the gallup poll, holding that fifty two percent of all respondents do not support any new restrictions on firearms or firearm ownership.

    More detail would be used in thoroughly discrediting this claim. But that has already been done. There is little reason to prove a point that has already been proven.
     
  14. Bowerbird

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    No I can imagine that the NRA spends less than Exxon however it DOES spend and it IS an influence - more so though with generation of "grass roots" and atroturf support

    Of COURSE!! Defunding and threatening are not "prevention" in any way shape or form..............
    And the period from 1996 - 2014???
    Oooooh1 my favourite cherry picked misquote

    The NEXT sentence says that since this does not agree with other research it is recommended that future studies be done

    Check it out for yourself

    http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2013/Pri...e-the-Threat-of-Firearm-Related-Violence.aspx
     
  15. Galileo

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    The pro-gun extremists on the board are very outspoken about their views on the matter as usual. The real truth is that people are much more likely to voice support for gun control if they asked specific questions about gun laws such as "Do you support universal background checks?" When survey respondents are asked general questions such as "Do you support more restrictions on guns?" they are more likely to say "no". This shows that many Americans are ignorant about current gun laws, but they do support gun control.
     
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    To be honest you have to ask them if they are in favor of gun registration so that UBC's can be enforced. The answer is a resounding NO.
     
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    In other words it is not what question is asked, but rather how it is asked, that achieves the desired results. In simpler terms, the discussion pertains to how people are manipulated.
     
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    I've been relieved, and amused to see how the general trend in gun laws has gone in America over the last few years. Look at how concealed carry has become almost universal.
    Here in Clark County, NV., we just saw the end of handgun registration, via the "blue card". It's no longer required. It's odd though, that Metro threatens FFL's with nasty actions, unless they continue to register handgun sales through Oct. Still, the National inertia is decidedly going in the direction of firearms freedom.
    What is this doing to the crime rates? That's the amusing part.
     
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    Some countries have whats called forced registration, when voluntary registration doesnt work. Theirs a lot of pro-gunners that are scared to death when u mention the word "registaton". Doesnt bother me at all, because I know the truth.
     
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    youre kidding right? the nra has one of the largest lobbies, if not the largest lobby in Washington. millions of supporters send their monies to them. and do u think their lawyers work for free?
     
  21. OrlandoChuck

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    I guess you didn't click on my link that disagrees with you. The NRA isn't even close to the top 20. Click the link.

    https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/top.php?indexType=s
     
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    What you know is what you have chosen to regard as the truth. That does not mean that it is the truth.
     
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    What's the truth? Do you somehow think that it's a good thing to be listed in government databases as a gun owner?

    Also, research Canada's gun registration plan (and abandonment of the plan). They found that gun registration did almost nothing to solve crimes, and was just a big waste of money.
     
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    Show us the proof of this.
     
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    May not be one of the largest (I think the energy lobby has that one cornered) but it is substantial and backed by the armaments industries

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/nra-lobbying-money-national-rifle-association-washington-2012-12

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    That is because poor old Canada has this huge border with the USA

    Gun registration has worked elsewhere
     

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