No Christian persecution in the US? Try telling that to these Christians.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/...being-persecuted-in-the-u.s.-its-because-your

if you follow the above HYPERLINK you will be shocked at what's happening

snip

Phillips refused, citing his Christian beliefs, but offered to serve them any other baked goods. Mullins and Craig opted to sue him instead, claiming that he had treated them in a “dehumanizing” way, and two courts ruled that Phillips should be coerced to make the wedding cake for the couple. Instead, in order to remain loyal to his conscience and his faith, Phillips stopped baking wedding cakes entirely. According to him, this has cost him 40% of his business revenue...........................

Elaine and Jonathan Huguenin were forced by a court in New Mexico to pay more than $6,600 in fines in 2012 after they declined to use their business, Elane Photography, to photograph a lesbian “commitment ceremony.”

The University of Toledo fired one of their staff members when she disagreed with the idea that gay marriage was a civil rights issue:,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


In 2013, the state of Oregon went after the little family bakery of Aaron and Melissa Klein, when they declined to provide a wedding cake for a lesbian wedding, again citing their Christian beliefs. The state of Oregon fined them, going so far as to garnish their bank accounts and assets and taking a total of $144,000 for their refusal to violate the tenets of their faith. The bakery, which the couple worked to create for years, was shut down. ..........................

A lesbian couple sued the Wildflower Inn under the state public accommodations law in 2011 after being told they could not have their wedding reception there. The owners were reportedly open to holding same-sex ceremonies as long as customers were notified that the events personally violated their Catholic faith. It wasn’t enough. The inn had to settle the case in 2012, paying a $10,000 fine and putting double that amount in a charitable trust.......................

The New York State Division of Human Rights (DHR) has ruled that the Roman Catholic owners of an Albany-area farm violated the civil rights of a lesbian couple when they declined to host the couple’s same-sex “marriage” ceremony in 2012. Robert and Cynthia Gifford, who own and operate Liberty Ridge Farm in Schaghticoke, were ordered by DHR Judge Migdalia Pares and Commissioner Helen Diane Foster to pay $10,000 in fines to the state and an additional $3,000 in damages to the lesbian couple, Jennie McCarthy and Melissa Erwin for “mental pain and suffering.” Additionally, the Giffords must provide sensitivity training to their staff, and prominently display a poster highlighting state anti-discrimination laws..........................

In 2014, an Indianapolis bakery owned by Randy and Trish McGath found itself the target of an online campaign launched by gay activists after they cited their Christian beliefs as the reason they would not provide a cake for a same-sex wedding. They were smeared as homophobes and hateful people, although they were willing to serve the gay community—just not participate in the celebration of a same-sex wedding.

Baronelle Stutzman, the owner of Arlene’s Flowers and Gifts in Richland, Washington State, was ordered to pay over $1,000 in fines in 2015 after declining to provide floral arrangements for a same-sex wedding. She had previously sold the couple in question flowers many times, but stated simply that providing floral arrangements for a wedding would violate her Christian beliefs.

In 2015, Mennonite couple Richard and Betty Odgaard were forced to close their business in Des Moines, Iowa, after being targeted by gay activists for their refusal to host a gay ‘wedding’ in their wedding chapel. A boycott campaign replete with vicious, profane messages and a civil rights complaint resulted in the Odgaards’ having to pay out a $5,000 settlement—ultimately, they lost their livelihood.................

A small-town Indiana pizzeria owned by a Christian family has closed its doors after being terrorized by pro-homosexual bullies opposed to the family’s religious values................


end snip


yes, the above instances are just a sampling of Christian persecution right here in the USA. The govt has taken it upon itself to deem the choice of engaging in homosexual-sex to being superior to the religious rights protected under the Constitution. In addition, excessive financial fines are being imposed. We can only hope that as new justices are added to the SCOTUS that the Constitution is restored to this nation along with common sense.

 

There was a time when people refused to serve blacks in restaurants, diners and at lunch counters.

 

sure, those Democrat supported Jim Crow laws were wrong and the GOP fought for and won civil rights.

Race is how one is born, it is not a choice and thus why civil rights should cut across all races.

How one chooses to engage in sex is a choice. It is insulting to those of us who are actually a minority to be compared with a sexual lifestyle choice.

 

There is absolutely no doubt these are examples of Christian persecution, pure and simple!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

You must be confused. The story you posted is an example of discrimination against homosexuals. The baker in the story is not being discriminated against. You can't legally deny someone service based on their sexual orientation in the state they live in. It would be discrimination against christians if the couple were denied a wedding cake because they were christian and the baker refused to make them a cake for that reason.

 

Being required to obey the same laws as everybody else isn't persecution and isn't against the constitution.

Laws establishing equal rights on grounds of sexuality weren't brought in to attack Christians. There are plenty of Christians who support them and plenty of non-Christians who feel just as strongly as you do against. The same applies to laws against discrimination grounds of race, gender, religion, nationality or disability. Some people oppose those laws and would wish to break them (sometimes on a religious bias). That doesn't mean those laws are persecuting them.

No it hasn't. When you repeatedly misrepresent reality like this, you destroy any credibility you could have.

 

Sorry, your belief in imaginary friends doesn't permit you to break the law.

 

Freedom of religion is gone in the U.S.

But at least we can worship in secret, in our homes, at night, if we can elude the authorities.

 

Oh baloney.. You can still go to any church you choose to attend.

 

Are you guys ever going to stop lying? The Southerners supported Jim Crow not Democrats. It just so happened that the entire South had at that time had virtually all Democrats in office until Sen Storm Thurmond the ARche Segregationist switched parties and became what he always shoukd have been, a Republican. History tells us that thecSouth hated Lincoln the Republican so much that they stayed as Democrats even though they still voted mostly like Republicans. The GOP did not did NOT fight for civil rights the West Coast, many Midwest, and Northeast Democrats fought for civil rights. The NORTHERN Republicans at many of them joined the Northern Democrats to vote for civil rights.

I really hate it when oeople either lie, distort, or twist history fir partisan reasons.

 

I was using hyperbole to illustrate the direction we are headed.

 

And if the religious Alt Right does not take over and pervert or change the Constitution we will not be forced into their Nation religion of Evangenitalism.

 

You never had the right to break the law based on your religion.

 

State in exact term what is thus alleged persecution of Christians you claim exists in the US Pleaee be specific.

 

Republicans were a key force in the passing civil rights legislation in the 1960's.

Since then, Republicans have dropped off the civil rights bandwagon because that movement has gone from supporting equality of opportunity to supporting equality of results.

 

Pure and simply either a distortion, twisting, of a lie about what persecution of religion is.

- - - Updated - - -

You dare try to explain truth and the American way go oeople bent upon trying to manufacture a case fir persecution where one dies not exist.

 

Excellent points in that it us absolutely true that there were people who tried to used the Jude's-Christian Bibles to support slavery.

 

In 1964, President Lyndon B. Johnson, a Democrat with a mixed record on race, signed the Civil Rights Act into law ...

 

Civil Rights and how they voted.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/28/republicans-party-of-civil-rights

 

Let me ask thus question of thecOP and this'd of you who support his contention the the photographers were persecuted fir their religious beliefs.

What if a. Religious cult group established a religious commune in the SouthWest desert and one of their women was caught engaging in adultry. The cult decided to stone her to death and actually did hit her with enough stones to cause her to die after bleeding out for a few hours in the hot sun. When the sheriff arrested the gang of cultists who actually threw the stones and killed the woman woukd you using the same logic as in the wedding photo case claim that this gang of cultist stone throwing murderers were being persecuted????

 

Did you CHOOSE to be heterosexual? Would you just at soon have sex with a man as with a woman? Was there any point in your life when you found men attractive as sexual partners?

 

Basically the Christians here are arguing they are being persecuted because they are not being allowed to persecute others.

 

You are aware that sexuality has to do with attraction, that it is not a choice, and that someone can be gay even if they have never had sex, right?

 

Yeah, I'm sure he did it all by himself.

 

Sorry, but Muslims get all the benefits of freedom of religion, its just Christians that are being persecuted by those godless commie progressives...