Russian Hackers Aided Trump Campaign

Tsk tsk, looks like Russia got the U.S. president it preferred. And the alt-right is perfectly fine with Russia's hacking and meddling in a U.S. presidential election. And this news article wasn't written by some housewife writing fantasy fiction for the alt-right...and don't bother blathering about the NY Times. When a reporter there is caught making something up, they're fired. At Breitbart, they're promoted to CEO.

American intelligence agencies have concluded with “high confidence” that Russia acted covertly in the latter stages of the presidential campaign to harm Hillary Clinton’s chances and promote Donald J. Trump, according to senior administration officials.

They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/u...column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

 

You're more mad at the Russians for exposing the DNC corruption then you are the corruption existing at the DNC. That is why you lost. You turn a blind eye to corruption in the name of the greater good, but soon, everyone in your party becomes just as deceitful and corrupt as the leaders. A real game of thrones at the DNC. You people need to do some serious soul searching before you nominate another criminal, taking bribes/speaking fees and selling out American interest to the highest bidder/donor. You could of had Bernie, but your lack of morals caused you to defend Hillary at all cost, rather then through her overboard. She led you to massive defeat, and you people deserve it. Karma.

 

Hillary Clinton harmed Hillary Clinton. Not the Russians, White Supremacists, or Chinese hackers. The woman is a crook and most working, tax paying citizens saw through her lies. If you are still compelled to beat yourself up seeking someone to blame, yell at Jill Stein. She may well have cost you the election.
Next time, choose someone more deserving to be nominated, not some criminal who smiled as she shoved her finger in Bernie Sanders rear end as she threw him under the bus.
Oh, yea. Make sure there is not a trail of now exposed e-mails proving Clinton did just that.

 

If she did not insure the security of her email system that is her problem but yo do realize it shows even more the case of how she disqualified herself from being the President or ever again involved in our national security.

That whoever was doing the hacking, and no evidence it was the Russian government, apparently didn't find anything on the RNC server is also bad news for her.

The Democrats lost get over it.

 

Was it the Russians? Georgia discovered it was DHS who tried to hack into their system. Now why would our own government do such a thing?

 

You should know by now that actual goal of the American right-wing is to destroy the US as we know it. They're happy that they're getting help from outside sources it makes their job easier.

I mean, who actually thinks that all of Trump's deep ties with the Russian oligarchy are coincidental?

 

So let me ask you a serious question. Yes we all get that the Russians hacked the democrats and released (*)(*)(*)(*) they didn't want anyone to see, and that's upsetting. But do you not have a problem with the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up and corrupt things that WERE ACTUALLY RELEASED. You guys keep whining about "Russia did this and russia did that" but not once have you guys denounced or criticized the things that were actually IN THE EMAILS. You guys seriously don't have a problem with that? And do not respond with "but the Russians". Either finally admit you have no problem with the corrupt (*)(*)(*)(*) that was revealed or that you do. Plain and simple.

 

These would be the same intelligence agencies that assured us that Saddam had stockpiles of WMD's?

 

News flash bro, every Intel service worth its salt hack the DNC, RNC, Hillary... We do the same thing. To lay it all on the Russians when China and Israel did it to is hella lame. If there wasn't corruption to exspose, nobody would of cared because the data would be "worthless".

 

I take anything the NYT, or The WaPo types on behalf of the democrat party while posing as reporters, and draw the opposite conclusion. It's 99.99% accurate that way.

 

Clinton's losers can bark only on forums.

 

Fake news. The dems are desperate to explain the awful performance of crooked Hillary.

 

so you are OK that Obamas state department used taxpayer dollars tried to throw the election in Israel ? You sure this wasn't a payback is a b**** thing from Netanyahu. Seems to me he had more to gain from Trumps election that Putin did.


Obama admin. sent taxpayer money to campaign to oust Netanyahu



The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.
Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report.

 

So if the Russians cost Clinton the presidency does that mean Comey is off the hook? Does that mean the republicans aren't racist? Does that mean the election wasn't stolen by politicians striking people from the voter rolls? Does they mean she didn't lose because she's a woman? Does that mean she didn't lose because of fake news?

Damn it Jim, the Clinton campaign was dead, now it's a zombie!

 

I do think it's messed up that the Russians interfered and America should take appropriate retaliation. Having said that, the Russians didn't hack voting machines. Instead they brought the truth to light. They showed Americans the inner workings of the Clinton campaign and it was worse than a sausage factory.

They also showed how easy hacking is and this emphasized how big of a deal it is that Hillary Clinton used a private unsecured server.

I hope those that think Edward Snowden is a hero realize they he did far more damage to America than the Russians did. Oh and where is Snowden? Why he's in Russia!

 

News flash bro, every Intel service worth its salt hack the DNC, RNC, Hillary... We do the same thing. To lay it all on the Russians when China and Israel did it to is hella lame. If there wasn't corruption to exspose, nobody would of cared because the data would be "worthless".

 

This is more fake news...

Just like Hillary was going to win by 20 points.

Progressives once again trying to blame others for their delusions.

Progressives are mad they lost and they're mad their dear Hillary was exposed as a tyrant and massivly corrupt politician.

 

Here's more:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...emocrats-and-america-vs-trump-and-russia.html

DEFCON 1
World War III: Democrats and America vs. Trump and Russia
The CIA believes Moscow tried to destroy Hillary Clinton and tilt the election. Republicans stayed quiet. This is a fight for who controls America: you or Putin?
Michael Tomasky
MICHAEL TOMASKY

12.10.16 10:58 AM ET
Make no mistake, yesterday’s Washington Post revelation that the CIA has concluded that Russia was actively trying to elect Donald Trump as opposed to just “meddling with” the election, is a nuclear bombshell. And if the Post piece is Hiroshima, then today’s New York Times story, which adds the detail that Russian actors also hacked email accounts at the Republican National Committee but did not release those publicly as they did Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign emails, is Nagasaki.
Hyperbole? Think again. A foreign government may have determined the outcome of a presidential election. And not Canada or Costa Rica, but Russia: the United States’ chief historic adversary and an oligarchy ruled by a tyrant who has systematically taken away rights. Bombshells don’t come much bigger.
Oh, wait; yes they do. On top of all the above, leaders of one of our two political parties—I’ll let you hazard a guess as to which one—argued against letting the American public know about all this before the election, reportedly saying it would be too partisan. That’s not hardball politics. That’s a hair’s breath away from treason.

So yes, this is major. But let’s catch our breath. We don’t know yet for a fact that these allegations are true. Both stories came from anonymous intelligence community sources, and in all such cases, the sources need to be considered. So the Obama administration and the CIA should put this information out there publicly.
And if the evidence is persuasive, what next?
It’s hard to say. It will be easy to prove to all but the most purblind partisans that Russia had the intent of electing Trump. But it will be much more difficult to prove that Russia did in fact elect Trump. That may never be provable. Unless evidence emerges that Russia specifically altered vote counts, Republicans will always be able to say it was something else and turn it back on Hillary.
Good luck getting Republicans to agree on anything here. Mitch McConnell? Please. He’s the one who said, at a hush-hush meeting back in September where administration officials urged that bipartisan group of 12 legislators go public with concerns about Russian interference in the election, that he would not participate and that if Democrats did so, he would tell the American people this was just partisan politics.
Think that through. McConnell, according to the Post story, showed no concern about the truth of the allegations. And bear this nugget in mind: This was not Barack Obama trying to persuade him to join in this bipartisan effort. This was Lisa Monaco, the president’s counterterrorism adviser; and Jeh Johnson, the Secretary of Homeland Security secretary; and FBI Director James Comey. McConnell told Comey, in essence, to go take a jump in the lake. McConnell was interested only in party, not at all in country. That’s not treason, but it sure isn’t patriotism.
This obviously cries out for hearings and an investigation, or a few of them. If we lived in a different universe, we’d ideally have a bipartisan investigation by Congress that was honest and serious and was able to be finished or at least to reach decent conclusions before the Electoral College votes on December 19.
But that will not happen. Republicans will make the Democrats do all the lifting here and then will cry that they’re being partisan and it’s just sour grapes. (Republican Senator John Cornyn tweeted, All this 'news' of Russian hacking: it has been going on for years. Serious, but hardly news.") But this is a genuine crisis. The guy who got 2.8 million fewer votes to begin with, and won because he took three states by less than 1 percent may have made it over the finish line, limping as he was, with a push from Vladimir Putin.

I know I often say “imagine if Hillary had done this,” but in this case, it’s not a mere hypothetical. Imagine the situation were reversed, and this lurid right-wing dystopic fantasy were playing out before our eyes—remembering, I should note, that Trump earlier in the campaign encouraged Russia to do more hacking of Clinton! What would the Republicans be doing? A few things, I think:
•They’d certainly be calling the election illegitimate and would declare Clinton an illegitimate president.
•They’d call on the electors to seat Trump, citing—and properly, by the way—the Founders’ view that electors existed for precisely this purpose.
•Noting that Clinton had (in this hypothetical) earlier egged Russia on, they would be accusing Clinton of being an agent of a foreign government; that is, of treason.
•They’d be legally brilliant and diabolical that it’s far beyond my capacity even to imagine.
And what would rank-and-file conservatives be doing? Hard-shell Trumpists? Richard Spencer? The good folks at Stormfront?
What should the Democrats do? I’m not exactly sure. Demand the release of the information. Demand a real investigation, one that can be completed by Dec. 19, when the electors meet. Pin McConnell’s ears to the wall in every way they can think of, discredit him as much as possible. Liberals groups need to agitate from the outside. The media needs to get the message that conservatives aren’t the only people who get pissed off.
In a word: Fight. Like hell. Obama too. He’s been doing his job—ensuring the peaceful transition of power. But that is just a custom. He didn’t swear an oath to it. He did however swear an oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. That comes first.

Liberals often accuse Democrats of bringing a knife to a gun fight. For this one, it’s time to haul out the bazooka.

 

Hmm, more fake news. You realize they have no actual evidence don't you?

 

whoever hacked Clinton and the DNC it was most likely because hillary decided to color outside the lines and have her own server. She might well have won the election had she not decided to break the rules. That having a server in the basement for convenience now seems real inconvenient in hindsight doesn't it ?

 

So is the OP saying the Russians got Trump elected?

 

It's the latest excuse for crooked Hillary losing.

 

Golly Gee - if those on the left had not said/emailed those things there would be nothing to hack. Nice try.

 

Let's say the Russians did hack the emails and they did so to get Trump elected.

Did it really work?

Yes, Trump was elected but he won by tearing down the midwest blue wall. Everything I've read says those miswest voters voted FOR Trump because of the jobs issue. They didn't vote against Clinton. Trump campaigned in their state and gave them attention. Clinton basically ignored them.
In Philadelphia the turnout of blacks was low and it wasn't because of emails it was because of president Obama not being on the ticket.

I'm not condoning the Russian hacking, I'm just saying I don't think it mattered other than lowering her total vote count in states she won anyway.

Clinton lost because of the midwest and the jobs issue. If Clinton had not lost PA, WI and MI she would have won even without Florida.

 

What did the interfer with? Hillary got the most popular votes, didn't she? Did Trump win any of the Blue States? Lying Croked Hillary lost because she thought that she was entitled to be President and she ignored the Rust Belt States. It's time to dump the Clintons into the trash can of forgotten people. Good riddance.