France: Muslims assault Jews in unprovoked attack

Propaganda directed at Western useful idiots, what Bin Laden says to his fellow pedophile worshipers in private is another matter altogether:

"I was ordered to fight the people until they say there is no god but Allah, and his prophet Muhammad."

Osama Bin Laden December 2001

http://edition.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/tape.transcript/

Thanks for (*)(*)(*)(*)ing playing, derka derka derka.

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Israel is already a fully democratic and mostly secular state save for marriages under the auspices of the religious authorities and the like. The one state solution is nothing more than a call for an Islamist theocracy under Muslim majority and the destruction of Israel through a demographic shift.

 

Told ya.

 

Symbolic references to religion in an attempt to glorify his cause.

Come, Dr. Face, the first step is always denial.

 

And what were the factors that led to Qutb's radicalization, Mr. 'I have read Qutb's Milestones?'

 

His cause is the destruction of secularism and the rise of Islamic Theocracy.

 

Western decadence and Muslims turning away from Allah and becoming more westernized. It is about Islam nothing more and nothing less.

 

... the Muslim community has long ago vanished from existence ... we can say that the Muslim community has been extinct for a few centuries, for this Muslim community does not denote the name of a land in which Islam resides, nor is it a people whose forefathers lived under the Islamic system at some earlier time. It is the name of a group of people whose manners, ideas and concepts, rules and regulations, values and criteria, are all derived from the Islamic source. The Muslim community with these characteristics vanished at the moment the laws of God became suspended on earth. [p.9]

Our whole environment, people's beliefs and ideas, habits and art, rules and laws -- is Jahiliyyah, even to the extent that what we consider to be Islamic culture, Islamic sources, Islamic philosophy and Islamic thought are also constructs of Jahiliyyah! [p.20]

Enemies of the Believers may wish to change this struggle into an economic or political ... struggle so that the Believers become confused concerning the true nature of the struggle and the flame of belief in their hearts becomes extinguished ... We see an example of this today in the attempts of Christendom to try to deceive us by distorting history and saying that the Crusades were a form of imperialism. The truth of the matter is that the latter-day imperialism is but a mask for the crusading spirit, since it is not possible for it to appear in its true form, as it was possible in the Middle Ages. [p.159-160]

http://gemsofislamism.tripod.com/milestones_qutb.html#answer_west

 

I never denied he's a bigot, just a bigot in different clothing.

 

Oh please the polling data clearly shows that the majority of Muslims the world over support theocratic governance, that is a statement of fact, especially considering that all of the recent elections in the Muslim world have resulted in large Islamist theocratic party majorities and the Palestinians voted for freaking Hamas which calls for the extermination of the Jews and the destruction of Israel right in their charter and those are the people who you want hand the Jews over to? And you think that is more likely to happen than a two state solution? Israel will never passively agree to its own destruction through a demographic shift.

 

Brainwashing false propaganda.

 

So now the Pew Global Attitudes study:

http://www.pewglobal.org/2005/07/14/iii-how-muslims-see-themselves-and-islams-role/

And the Gallup poll on Islam and Democracy:

http://www.gallup.com/press/109693/islam-democracy.aspx

are to be considered propaganda now?

Once again the one state solution is nothing more than a call for the destruction of Israel and Israel will never agree to it, so to argue for it rather than for the two state solution is nothing more than an argument in favor of continued conflict.

 

And of course arguments calling for a two-state solution has resulted in peace for the last 65 years. A one state solution will result in a secular democratic state not the destruction of Israel, except perhaps in name. Only those who fear democracy, long-term peace and favour continual conflict, oppose a one state solution which is why neoZionism remains the major impediment to peace.

 

Absolute non-sense provide ANY indication WHATSOEVER that the Muslims would vote for secularism or a liberal democracy. When given the vote they voted for Hamas and Hamas has been Talibanizing Gaza ever since. In fact today in every Muslim majority democracy there sits an Islamic theocratic party in power.

Israel is not going to commit national suicide, the one state solution is nothing if not the destruction of Israel through a demographic shift which would grant a hostile openly anti-Semitic peoples majority rule over half of the worlds Jews.

 

I'm sorry but that is just absolute nonsense and paranoid claptrap.

 

The polling data and the election results don't lie.

 

Divorce already?

 

Firstly US-based think tanks like Pew are little more than organs of state propaganda, and secondly, the findings of the poll cited didn't purport what your leap of fantasy implied anyway.

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Jack, people other than partisans often agree and disagree about many things.

 

Then why doesn't it tow the Obama party line of "Islam isn't the problem" and "religion of peace"??? Regardless that's just an ad-hominem logical fallacy, can you provide evidence of skewed and distorted poll results? Can you post what you find faulty in their methodology?

Yes they most certainly did, read the gallup poll demonstrating that the majority of Muslims favor Islam and the Koran being the only source of legislation and the overwhelming majority say that it must be a source of legislation or the only source of legislation. Not to mention the fact that they had the vote already and they voted for Hamas which is not just Islamist but radical Islamist fundamentalist who have been busy Talibanizing Gaza since obtaining power instituting such policies as amputation for theft and crucifixion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_the_Gaza_Strip

 

The facts (as has been demonstrated) show otherwise. Some Westerners (specifically Americans) think that they can do whatever they please in the world and not get punished. Think again.

 

You were almost there.

http://books.google.com/books?id=AZ...q=why qutub writing grew more radical&f=false

So, Qutb didn't declare war on America because teenage pregnancy happens to be the norm in the country.

 

Sorry, I'm not with you on the Obama party line bit. Might I suggest that is an example of a logical fallacy emanating from YOU?

I'm not claiming that the poll results are distorted, merely that you have extrapolated disingenuous conclusions from them. I don't see how the Pew findings are anyway relevant to what is being discussed.

 

Again, you are making tenuous connections predicated on a set of generic-based assumptions, treating Muslims as one singular group of people. You frequently generalize about Muslims in this way, which is why in essence there is barely a cigarette papers difference between somebody like Jack's bigoted views and yours.

Your language is sensationalist, and dare I say it, hysterical when the subject of Muslims is discussed. Jonsa, for example, rightly pulled you on this recently after you went into a rant about Mohammad being a paedophile. It was crass and silly. And here you are at it again with your absurd and emotive 'Talibanizing' quip.

The notion that the practices of the Taliban be transferred to Gaza is straight out of the Hasbara Handbook. It's not even subtle propaganda but crude propaganda designed to inflame and incite hatred against Muslims. You seem to find it perfectly acceptable when you accuse Jack of demonizing Jews as a collective, but are unable to recognize similar behaviour in yourself when describing Muslims. That makes you nothing other than a hypocrite and I'm glad Jonsa spotted it too.

 

I'm basing my claims on statements of fact IE according to poll results the majority of Muslims support theocracy in that of those polled the majority supported Sharia being the only source of legislation and the overwhelming majority support it being either the only source of legislation or that it must be a source of legislation. I further base my assertion on past experiences IE the Palestinians have already voted for Hamas which is theocratic to the core.

My claim that Gaza is being Islamisized is not sensational unless of course you consider reality and facts to be sensational:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_the_Gaza_Strip

But I notice you completely ignored the article which backed up my assertions.

As to the Mohammad thing Jack is the one who brought it up and I simply commented that it was a statement of fact.

 

Apparently, muslims in France now beat up French for eating pork sandwiches in public places. What's next? You gonna get beaten up in France for wearing a cross in public? Forget Magen David, no one in France have the balls to wear it nowadays...

 

What have I extrapolated that is disingenuous exactly? Once again the poll demonstrates that the majority of Muslims support Sharia being the only source of legislation.