France: Muslims assault Jews in unprovoked attack

The point is, that our foreign policy INCREASES the likelihood of increasing attacks. This isn't even controversial.

 

In the 90's we had a very nasty terror wave the like I dont remember before or since and after each attack you would see ppl gather at the scene and cry "Death to Arabs" "Death to Arabs"!!, there were also some cases of Jewish terror on Arabs back then and I never ever thought "oh well, if the gov would have been more tolerant to the settelrs, or decisive against the Palestinains we would'nt see all that"....no, to me there is no understanding to the intended murder of innocents in cold blood, all terrorists must be fought off no if's no but's.

Im not willing to understand this "We are poor and oppressed - lets hang us a Jew" thinking, and the gov shouldnt let that affect its decision making, imo.

 

Judaized "Muslims" have been attacking Christians since the Talmudists took over Islam after the Prophet Muhammed was assassinated.

As for "Jews", there is no theological difference between Jews & Muslims in the Sinogog of Satan.

Islam was originally a move to bring Christ to Arabia via the Prophet Muhammed. And, Biblically, a Jew is defined in Romans 2:28-29 as those who follow Christ.

And, any member of the nation of Judah who refuses the Prophet and Messiah is cut off and no longer of Judah or Israel regardless of his genetic purity.

 

You are missing the point Gilos. Why would people need to chant 'Death to Arabs and/or Muslims" when it's Arabs and Muslims that are killed disproportionately in actuality as a matter of government foreign policy?

I don't pretend to understand the actions underlying the rationale of terrorists who intentionally kill and target innocent people - Jews or otherwise - either. As I said, such actions are totally counter-productive from a policy perspective.

 

Yeah, and some people's interpretations of the Qur'an and hadith increases the likelihood of increasing attacks, too.

Since the dawn of Islam there has always been an ever-shifting mountain of grievances and excuses, trout. Once it was our infidelity and now it's our foreign policy.

Better to hold psychopaths and sociopaths responsible for their own behavior instead of making excuses for them. Millions of Muslims get through their days without feeling the need to take a meat cleaver to a Jew or a Lee Rigby on account of "Western foreign policy" (or their interpretation of Islamic scripture, for that matter).
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You are stuck in the past; this isn't the Siege of Vienna, for Christ's sake.

The West has had the upper-hand in colonialism/imperialism for centuries now, and it'll be fun to watch their power wane and recede.

 

That's true, from your perspective, you need to try and look at my example at the demonstarters perspective, they thought the gov was wronging them not the Arabs, it was around the peace talks and Israel was assisting in creating the Palestinain authority, trained their police and armed them, the military left the major Palestinians cities so they thought the gov was neglacting their security,

So could I say Baruch Goldstein murder of 40 Palesinians was a counter-productive of the gov "reckless" peace process ?, im sure there are those who will, I just think its not something that we or the gov should take into consideration,

I know you dont approve terror, I dont mean to suggest you do but I think we as society need to be unconditional about some things,

If you disagee with your gov about its policy because you think its wrong than its your right ofc, but I dont think that the gov should think about possible murder waves by some really pissed off ppl when it makes national desicions, everyone have a point of view.

 

Irrelevant.

No, it was once about plain old conquering and now it is (mostly) about your foreign policies.

If the West is allowed to make excuses, then the Muslims should be allowed this as well.

 

Where on earth are you getting this from?

Seriously, yesterday I was apparently creating my own personal 'holocost', and now this.

Are you okay and everything?

 

Very true.

So let's begin by holding the lunatic Jewish state, prone to fits of madness and psychopathy, to account, rather than make excuses for them.

Oh.

Wait.

You won't do that, and why not?

Because you do not recognise the insanity in them.

Just as mad men themselves do not recognise their own insanity.

 

No, I'm stuck in the present with a bunch of psychopathic jihadist idiots who think and behave like they're at the gates of Vienna, for Allah's sake.

I guess that would be fun after choking on your own imperialist medicine for so long.

As for this American, I'm looking forward to the prospect of ignoring the Old World and its atavisms.

 

You'd have a point if that was mostly the case.

We have learned to become resilient, and so will you.

Then good riddance to the orientalists.

 

An ironic statement coming from someone who spends much of their time obsessing over Jews and spouting their Jew hatred and anti-Israeli xenophobia on the Internet.

Despite your gratuitous prattle, I've always been a proponent of the two-state solution, and I don't support the actions of either party - Israeli or Palestinian - that are consistent with one side or the other reaching a one state solution for themselves.

 

Since it is mostly the case with jihadists, my point stands.

Been there, done that. Now that we've taught each other how to become resilient, perhaps we can move on to learning something different for a change. Won't that be refreshing after 1400 years?

And bad Saidist rubbish, for that matter.

 

"Stop asking what you have done wrong. Stop it! They're slaughtering you like sheep and you still look within. You criticize your history, your institutions, your churches. Why can't you realize that it has nothing to do with what you have done but with what they want." -- Dr. Tawfiq Hamid

Do you know what dar al-Harb is? Do you know what jahiliyya is? Do you know who Sayyid Qutb or al-Banna are? Are you a Muslim or simply a Muslim apologist?

 

You know it will never happen, that is why you can say it.

 

I don't know if it will happen, but I never thought I would live to see the demise of the USSR, either.

Nevertheless, I think it's reasonable to support the national aspirations of both parties and a peaceful end to this conflict.

 

There is 100% no way.

I assure you, Israel and organised Jewry would do anything, and I mean ANYTHING to stop it being so.

Time will tell. However, I think it would be better to have one state, not a Jewish state, a Christian state, or a Muslim state, but a country (renamed from scratch if need be), for all, and that all those displaced can come back.

 

Expect that the primary motive of most (if not all) of the Islamic attacks in the West have been about revenge.

The West (specifically America) doesn't seem too keen on learning.

 

Yes.

I'm simply a goomba.

 

I agree...A fully inclusive democratic and secular state. That's the only long-term sustainable solution imo.

 

Judging from their words and deeds, I have discovered that their own ideological, imperialistic and revanchist impulses are their primary motives.

I get the same impression from your neck of the woods.

 

Wrong.

— Osama bin Laden, 2004

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Beirut

The West and Arabs were allies in WWI. Unfortunately, Britain and France decided to screw them over with the Sykes-Picot agreement, and its been downhill ever since. The West was never interesting in learning.

 

That is a lie from bottom to top it has been about preventing the spread of Jahilliya through offensive Jihad against dar al-Harb, spare me your BS I have read Qutb's Milestones.

 

Which will never happen either, as Israeli Jews/international Jewry want something quite the opposite, and will not relent.

Just wait to see what they really have in mind.

Will be too late when this genie is out the bottle.