More Right Wing Craziness From Mike “Hucksterbee”

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  1. CJtheModerate

    CJtheModerate New Member

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    I do not know the exact numbers, so I cannot comment.

    It's pretty easy to trace the money back to Iran.

    Nothing, but there are several Americans being held on trumped-up charges. We should have used the deal to secure their release.

    If we actually had leverage during the negotiations, we could have gotten that. It's not my fault that Obama tried to negotiate from a position of weakness.

    Why should we trust Iran's allies to inspect their facilities. Do you seriously believe that Russia and China are going to report any violations?

    In other words, this deal is defunct from the start. Russia and China will block any UNSC resolution that hurts Iran, which makes this deal unenforceable.

    Too bad.
     
  2. Margot2

    Margot2 Banned

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    Read about Huckabee's family.

    here's a sample:

    During his father's 2008 presidential campaign, both Newsweek and the Los Angeles Times reported that the younger Huckabee had been dismissed as a Boy Scout camp counselor in 1998.[12][13] Huckabee, then 17, was alleged to have been involved in the hanging of a stray dog.[12]

    When an animal rights group sought records from the Arkansas state police the request was denied. John Bailey, the then-police chief reported that "(Mike Huckabee's) chief of staff and personal lawyer both pressured him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor's request."[12] Mike Huckabee fired Bailey seven months later. In December 2007, Bailey told Newsweek that the governor told him "I've lost confidence in your ability to do your job" and "I couldn't get you to help me with my son when I had that problem."[12]

    Mike Huckabee flatly denied Bailey's account.[12] He insisted his son did not engage in "intentional torture." A campaign official said that David Huckabee "regrets the incident."[12]

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    Huckabee was arrested at 6:00 AM,[14] on April 26, 2007, for attempting to board a plane departing from Little Rock, Arkansas, with a loaded Glock handgun.[15] A misdemeanor charge was brought against him for "attempting to carry a gun in a prohibited place." Huckabee had a concealed-weapon permit at the time of the incident and said he forgot about the weapon in his luggage. A Little Rock Police lieutenant was quoted as saying, "It is not unusual for people to forget they have a gun in their carry-on luggage."[14] He entered a guilty plea with the court.[15] He received a one-year suspended sentence with 10 days of community service.[16]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Huckabee

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    Read about Huckabee's family.

    here's a sample:

    During his father's 2008 presidential campaign, both Newsweek and the Los Angeles Times reported that the younger Huckabee had been dismissed as a Boy Scout camp counselor in 1998.[12][13] Huckabee, then 17, was alleged to have been involved in the hanging of a stray dog.[12]

    When an animal rights group sought records from the Arkansas state police the request was denied. John Bailey, the then-police chief reported that "(Mike Huckabee's) chief of staff and personal lawyer both pressured him to write a letter officially denying the local prosecutor's request."[12] Mike Huckabee fired Bailey seven months later. In December 2007, Bailey told Newsweek that the governor told him "I've lost confidence in your ability to do your job" and "I couldn't get you to help me with my son when I had that problem."[12]

    Mike Huckabee flatly denied Bailey's account.[12] He insisted his son did not engage in "intentional torture." A campaign official said that David Huckabee "regrets the incident."[12]

    Arrest[edit]

    Huckabee was arrested at 6:00 AM,[14] on April 26, 2007, for attempting to board a plane departing from Little Rock, Arkansas, with a loaded Glock handgun.[15] A misdemeanor charge was brought against him for "attempting to carry a gun in a prohibited place." Huckabee had a concealed-weapon permit at the time of the incident and said he forgot about the weapon in his luggage. A Little Rock Police lieutenant was quoted as saying, "It is not unusual for people to forget they have a gun in their carry-on luggage."[14] He entered a guilty plea with the court.[15] He received a one-year suspended sentence with 10 days of community service.[16]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Huckabee
     
  3. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    1. By cutting 2/3rds of Iran's enrichment capability, they are well below the threshold of the number of centrifuges required to build a nuclear weapon. Furthermore, by cutting their uranium stockpile by 99%, even if they wanted to, they'd have to start their enrichment process from scratch.

    2. Then it should be easy to convict them in court. There's already judicial infrastructure in place for this.

    3. Why would Iran agree to having something that has nothing to do with their nuclear program as a condition for nuclear negotiations and what country would back our demand?

    4. No we couldn't. The Russians and Chinese refused to back our demand. It was wildly unreasonable to even demand it.

    5. Because the only countries in the world are Iran, The US, Russia, and China? No neutral nations exist?

    6. China and Russia backed the last round of sanctions and back the current deal cutting Iran's stockpile and enrichment capability, so you are clearly wrong.

    7. Yes, it is too bad your "plan" would never work.

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    1. By cutting 2/3rds of Iran's enrichment capability, they are well below the threshold of the number of centrifuges required to build a nuclear weapon. Furthermore, by cutting their uranium stockpile by 99%, even if they wanted to, they'd have to start their enrichment process from scratch.

    2. Then it should be easy to convict them in court. There's already judicial infrastructure in place for this.

    3. Why would Iran agree to having something that has nothing to do with their nuclear program as a condition for nuclear negotiations and what country would back our demand?

    4. No we couldn't. The Russians and Chinese refused to back our demand. It was wildly unreasonable to even demand it.

    5. Because the only countries in the world are Iran, The US, Russia, and China? No neutral nations exist?

    6. China and Russia backed the last round of sanctions and back the current deal cutting Iran's stockpile and enrichment capability, so you are clearly wrong.

    7. Yes, it is too bad your "plan" would never work.

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    1. By cutting 2/3rds of Iran's enrichment capability, they are well below the threshold of the number of centrifuges required to build a nuclear weapon. Furthermore, by cutting their uranium stockpile by 99%, even if they wanted to, they'd have to start their enrichment process from scratch.

    2. Then it should be easy to convict them in court. There's already judicial infrastructure in place for this.

    3. Why would Iran agree to having something that has nothing to do with their nuclear program as a condition for nuclear negotiations and what country would back our demand?

    4. No we couldn't. The Russians and Chinese refused to back our demand. It was wildly unreasonable to even demand it.

    5. Because the only countries in the world are Iran, The US, Russia, and China? No neutral nations exist?

    6. China and Russia backed the last round of sanctions and back the current deal cutting Iran's stockpile and enrichment capability, so you are clearly wrong.

    7. Yes, it is too bad your "plan" would never work.

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    1. By cutting 2/3rds of Iran's enrichment capability, they are well below the threshold of the number of centrifuges required to build a nuclear weapon. Furthermore, by cutting their uranium stockpile by 99%, even if they wanted to, they'd have to start their enrichment process from scratch.

    2. Then it should be easy to convict them in court. There's already judicial infrastructure in place for this.

    3. Why would Iran agree to having something that has nothing to do with their nuclear program as a condition for nuclear negotiations and what country would back our demand?

    4. No we couldn't. The Russians and Chinese refused to back our demand. It was wildly unreasonable to even demand it.

    5. Because the only countries in the world are Iran, The US, Russia, and China? No neutral nations exist?

    6. China and Russia backed the last round of sanctions and back the current deal cutting Iran's stockpile and enrichment capability, so you are clearly wrong.

    7. Yes, it is too bad your "plan" would never work.
     
  4. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

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    The U.S. overthrew the Iranian government, installed a dictator and kleptocrat, and trained the secret police that dictator used to disappear and torture people opposed to his rule.

    They have good reason to be hostile.
     
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    The one time we should have listened to the British and the French Intelligence and didn't.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    which is why we needed the deal, no deal means they are free to do as they wish.. and why Israel said they could have the bomb in a couple months without the deal

    does this make IRAN trustworthy now, no, that is why we have inspectors... if they violate the deal will we still have to respond... of course

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  7. CJtheModerate

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    We did not install the Shah. The Shah was already in power. We overthrew his Prime Minister and made the Shah an absolute monarch.

    Less than 100 political prisoners were executed between 1970 and 1979. More than 7,900 were executed between 1981 and 1985.
     
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    Mike Huckabee's words aren't remotely as crazy as Obama's reckless, irresponsible and immoral deal with the "Death to America!" crowd in Tehran.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Questerr

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    How many would have been executed had we allowed them to complete their transition to democracy instead of squashing it to protect oil profits?
     
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    They are free to do as they wish now...this "deal" did not change anything. :roll:

    http://www.thetower.org/3227-irgc-chief-says-that-nuclear-deal-violates-irans-red-lines/
     
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    Why must our government do this stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) over and over again? Why does one side try to defend TODAY'S stupid (*)(*)(*)(*), by pointing out the other side's stupid (*)(*)(*)(*) from decades ago. To me this only illustrates that today's idiotic ruling elite has been unable to learn ANYTHING from the prior dumbasses. That that they enthusiastically emulate mistakes already made, and then proudly announce to the world some perceived victory, only illustrates the cavernous depth of their idiocy. And then there are the people who blindly defend them....
     
  12. CJtheModerate

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    That is beside the point. The Shah was authoritarian, but his human rights violations pale in comparison to those of the Islamic Republic.
     
  13. Talon

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    I'm sure Ali Khamenei and his goon squads appreciate your efforts, but who is forcing the Islamist butchers in Tehran to execute, imprison and oppress anyone?
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    So the Iranian people should love us because the dictator we supported only killed a few of their people?

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    No one. They are horrible people. But people who are at all surprised the Iranians are hostile to us are naive at best.
     
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    I'd rather live in a country where a hundred political prisoners get executed in a decade than one where seven thousand get executed in five years.
     
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    Iran is not going to use any bomb they get against Israel. Iran's leaders USE suicide bombers but are not themselves suicidal, If they were as suicidal as Republicans make out they would have tried to invade Israel by conventional means already. Iran wants a bomb to defend against India, Pakistan, and us, all of whom have threatened to invade

    It might actually be good for Iran to have a bomb as they could use it againt ISIS and not turn the entire Islamic world against them

    Even with their present tech they are still years away from a bomb. I've been hearing they are getting a bomb next month for 15 years now.

    War with Iran right now would be utterly disastrous for us. We would see $10 a gallon gasoline in 6 months whether we won quickly or it was a protracted conflict.

    The Repubicans want war. They always want war. This is mainly so they can make money through their war profiteering cronys (and no, I can't provide a link to this as if I could I would be dead, and if I did this whole board would be too) and tighten their hold on power through wrapping themselves in the flag. Nobody is more pwned by their pols than Republicans are on the issue of war. Except maybe in regard to "trickle down economics" :roflol:
     
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    But would you love the country who supported and trained the first dictator or would you be hostile to them?
     
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    Well, $100 billion will buy the thugs in Tehran a lot more internal oppression and external aggression. In the minds of Obama and his mindless sycophants, this will lead to "a more hopeful world". Unfortunately, the road to their imaginary utopia will be paved with the coffins of Tehran's opponents at home and abroad.
     
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    Makes you wonder what they will say when the bomb gets dropped on Israel? It's republican congress's fault? Mike Huckabee's?

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    No actually you weren't.
     
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    The regime that you refer to as "the Iranians" is hostile towards its own people. When power and the survival of your illegitimate regime is all you care about, you're going to be paranoid about anyone and everyone who doesn't lick your jackboots.

    Did Obama's gestures and appeasement change their attitude? Not at all.
     
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    Why do so many presume the guy the U.S. helped overthrow was some kind of shining example of democracy?
     
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    Right. He was evil because he wanted oil revenues to go to Iran instead of America and Britain.
     
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    He is right Obama has betrayed multiple Allies, made a bad deal, and has basically Rearmed Iran for the eventual attack on Israel and Iraq.
     

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