Dulles' resignation was a formality. Kennedy told him he wanted his resignation on his desk immediately after the Bay of Pigs fiasco which was hatched by the idiots in the CIA before Kennedy took office. Kennedy was quoted as saying that he would break the corrupt CIA into 1000 pieces.
That's interpretation and opinion about Dulles who resigned. Kennedy like all politicians said many things and did the opposite. He never broke up the CIA and actually worked well with them - - - Updated - - - Allen Dulles resigned. The troop increase was planned by Kennedy and merely carries out by Johnson. So 11110 is irrelevant
That EO only specified the issuance of silver certificates during the transitional period when silver coinage was replaced by clad,no boogeyman there. And Dulles STILL resigned,he wasn't 'fired',although Kennedy probably gave him a choice troop strength in Vietnam had been growing during 1963,with US 'advisers' clandestinely fighting with the south vietnamese,up to 16,000 were already in country.....1963 was also a transitional year in Vietnam,with a coup that deposed president Diem,one which the Kennedy administration stood around and watched.
I have Soupnazi and LoneStrSt8 on ignore, but if anyone with a clue what they're talking about and who wishes to provide and discuss evidence wants to discuss this further I'd be delighted to. By the way, one of them said this memo from George Bush doesn't exist, the last post of theirs I will ever read as wilfull ignorance annoys me more than anything else in the world, well here it is - https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bush_Sr,_JFK_-_J_Edgar_Hoover_memo_2.jpg It mentions 'George Bush of the CIA', the CIA initally claimed it was ANOTHER George Bush, who turned out to be a lowly clerk, when infact it was George HW Bush. There are also pictures of a man in Dealey Plaza at the time who looks an awful lot like George Bush. We also know for a fact he was definitely in Dallas that day, this is 100% documented fact, though he himself claims he 'can't remember' where he was when it happened. http://www.wnd.com/2013/09/did-george-h-w-bush-witness-jfk-assassination/
That's my evidence. I've never seen a body bounce toward a gun shot. It might recoil. I think it was the CIA, maybe with LBJ's acquiescence. The CIA thought of Vietnam as it's war. JFK already wanted out. There probably were some bit players from outside the agency, but not many.
No use answering a coward who doesn't want to discuss their views like an adult,but only runs away Gizmo is typical of the CT'er who finds this board,thinks what they post is the first time it's been seen here. And George H.W. Bush was a businessman in 1963,and wasn't involved in politics till 1964,and the only 'documented' proof of the claim Bush was in Dallas is a blurry,grainy photo that could be anyone.
Talk about willful ignorance,the memo was NOT from Bush,but from J.Edgar Hoover...gizmo just can't stop insulting...
Well, since there are many facts that have not been accepted as evidence in this case, and much heresay that has been accepted, I think I will stick to my own assumptions. You gotta remember, Gerald Ford and Arlen Specter were on the Warren Commission. All Ford ever wanted to do was "put long national nightmares behind us."
Oswald was ONE of the shooters but I'd bet he didn't know who his immediate boss was. "I'm just a patsy" is right. I think it was LBJ, maybe Edwin Walker was mixed in there somehow although it is said Oswald tried to kill him, too. Throw in one or two fellas from the CIA. I don't think the Cubans had anything to do with it. Or the Mafia. They were too outside and too dumb.
You originally said TELEGRAM not memo it was this TELEGRAM which I said does not exist. If you meant something else fine it is a minor mistake. However you have consistently been making massive claims which are false and there was no such TELEGRAM. The memo in question is very old and has been around a long time. It was not referring to future president bush and that is proven. George Bush is not an uncommon name. The George Bush served as director of the CIA in the seventies not before. A blurry photograph proves nothing. Bush was in Texas that day because he lived there. He was not in Dallas and your claim it is documented is false - - - Updated - - - That's cause you have never seen one shot except in movies and TV. Sorry but that has long been explained and is not evidence - - - Updated - - - That's cause you have never seen one shot except in movies and TV. Sorry but that has long been explained and is not evidence
Because he applied for work there when he needed a job. After he was hired they planned the motorcade route. Not a mystery
That's MORE than serendipity, don't ya think? "I got my intentions. I got my gun. Now all I need is a clear shot. Oh, lookee here!!!"
You are obviously confused as to the sequence. He did not buy the gun to shoot Kennedy he just wanted a gun. He got the job because he needed a job and they were hiring. He did not begin planning to shoot Kennedy until a few days before when he learned Kennedy would drive by the building. He had only a few days to plan based on the opportunity which arose
That's fine if you buy the plot. I believe Oswald was handled Step A thru Step Z and he didn't know by whom.
It is not a plot it is what the evidence shows happened. There is no evidence supporting other beliefs
I think you're totally right about this, it has been confirmed now he was an FBI informer (as was Jack Ruby who was also mob connected), it seems he was also definitely working for the Office of Naval Intelligence when he went to Russia, and he was being handled by the CIA upon his return to Dallas (David Atlee Phillips who was chief of covert action for the Western Hemisphere was seen with Oswald by a guy called Antonio Veciana who was later shot in the head to silence him, he lived but never talked after that). We know, the CIA have admitted, that he was being impersonated by somebody in Mexico City, which could only be the CIA, and George de Mohrenschildt has also been confirmed as a long time CIA asset too. So he was definitely being handled by the CIA. It is also worth googling a guy called Richard Case Nagell, it all ties in to the same thing and same people, always comes back to intelligence/CIA. I do believe they used the mob and the Cubans, they were already working with both to overthrow Castro, and the Texas oil men HL Hunt allegedly paid the assasins, and LBJ and Hoover were involved. E Howard Hunt's confession is truthful, Edwin Walker was pictured in Dallas too he seems to have been the organiser on the ground. In my opinion there is no doubt whatsoever the USA underwent a coup d'etat in 1963 when the military-industrial-intelligence complex took over the running of the country, there is no objective and fair examination of the facts that doesn't come to that conclusion. I believe the same people also killed RFK, they really had to or he would have won and reopened the investigation into his brother's death, and the CIA have been heavily linked to that since day one, and they also killed MLK too. Its really incredible stuff. It is also worth noting Oswald was probably never supposed to leave the TSBD alive, when he realised he was being set up or something had gone wrong he panicked and ran, thats why they had to get Ruby to kill him in a clean-up operation, he was supposed to be shot dead on the scene by the police rushing in but left before that could happen. And the authorities in Texas were definitely in on it too, the police, the DA all of them especially the DA. Over half the police force in Dallas at the time were either KKK or John Birch Society, they hated Kennedy with a passion and the whole city was as corrupt and right-wing as it gets, I have no doubt the authorities in Texas were deeply involved, and that Texas was chosen for that reason, also LBJ had enormous influence and they could handle the parade route and investigation etc to make sure it all went to plan. Oswald probably called his handler and was told meet me in the Texas Theatre, so he went there and they tipped off the police that's where you'll find him. There was a description of the shooter of the president circulated through police radio 15 minutes after the event, even though not a single person actually saw him shoot the president, and nobody knows where it came from, and, suspiciously enough, it matches exactly an incorrect description of Oswald contained in his military intelligence file (which btw was altered both before and after 22nd November 1963). Its all murky as hell but every single time every piece of evidence leads back to the CIA. They definitely did it.
Also interesting to note the term 'conspiracy theorist' was coined by the CIA in the immediate aftermath of the JFK assassination specifically to use as a pejorative description of those who doubted the WC verdict. That's where we got the phrase from, its quite funny when people who don't have a clue what they're talking about use that term they are literally parrotting the line written for them by the CIA for that exact purpose, its just drinking the kool-aid and sucking on the government teat, those with closed minds who find it uncomfortable and scary to doubt official narratives provided by authority find it much easier to do that than actually think for themselves. Whereas of course its all theory anyway, none of it has been proven in a court of law, even the WC verdict is just a theory. So people who are interested in the JFK assassination like to call WC believers 'Lone Nut Theorists' as they believe in the Lone Nut theory. Its rather convenient that RFK, JFK and MLK were killed by lone nuts with no motive at all, just a crazy person don't worry there are no big bad men out there with nefarious intentions, just drink your kool-aid and go back to sleep.
Not only are you wrong about those claims being confirmed but in fact no evidence exists to support them. FBI experts in the mafia and organized crime have long since debunked the story that RUby was connected to the mob. In fact the rumor that he was connected traces back to Ruby himself as a form of self promotion. No evidence exists that Oswald was an FBI informant or that he was connected to any intelligence agency. Your claims are just claims with no supporting evidence. No one in th CIA claimed or admitted that Oswald was being impersonated in Mexico. DeMorenschidt was never connected to the CIA in any known official fashion. You really need to back up your claims you have yet to do so. It seems you hear stuff and make up your own spin.
