Moscow voices alarm as NATO Romanian missile defense base goes live

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  1. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Change the goalpost some more why don't you? The US screwed up and made mistakes which benefitted ISIS, but they're not allied. This is what your link says.
     
  2. AboveAlpha

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    A U.S. President is the Commander in Chief of U.S. Armed Forces and as such he can deploy the U.S. Military all on his own.

    THAT is what makes a U.S. President the worlds most powerful man.

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    Ok. Now I know the main villain in the world :D
     
  4. AboveAlpha

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    This is EXACTLY what I am talking about!!!

    They only talk about the TAX REVENUE they are getting from these Energy Export sales!!

    But where the HELL is the profit money going???

    In Putin and 110 of his buddies POCKETS!!

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    Come on!!

    The U.S. is not a villain anymore than the Russian people are villains!!

    I have a lot of Russian friends many of them being my Cold War adversaries and I try to keep in touch.

    They as well as I are really upset that after so many decades of Cold War and finally Russia becomes a democracy that all this talk by Putin about a war between the U.S. and Russia has been being generated only to cover Putin's theft.

    My old friends...most who were former KGB, GRU and Soviet Military have the same opinion I have that this madness must STOP!!

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  6. Balancer

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    Electricity is not taken out of thin air. Require more spending on infrastructure (as it is in Russia there is a great pace, particularly in the nuclear industry), wage workers, maintaining the work, etc.

    Are all of the profit from power generation in the United States goes to the state?
     
  7. Balancer

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    So I do not insist :) I simply show the absurdity of some of the evaluations above in the subject line.

    If theft allows Russia every year becomes richer, the country's inhabitants live better - then let it be theft. Just not as in Ukraine, Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and other countries where the United States were trying to establish their democracy ...
     
  8. AboveAlpha

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    The thing is the F-22 Raptor is a 1988 design and the F-22 was flying back in 1996.

    That was 20 years ago.

    The USAF considers the F-22 an OLD DESIGN.....and yet neither Russia nor China has not come even close to deploying a Stealth Fighter and the T-50 only exists as 6 aircraft and another 6 will be built and that is it because the T-50 has many design flaws and is not stealthy at all.

    The Chinese have an even bigger failure with their Stealth Fighter design.

    While both Russia and China continue to at least try to make an aircraft even half as good as the F-22 the United States is currently building and already had tested and deployed the first of the Gen. 7 Stealth Robotic Self Autonomous Fighter/Attack Drones.

    The U.S. Navy already has flow the Generation or Gen. 6 Bat Wing X-47B Stealth Fighter/Attack drone off a carrier and landed it.

    LINK....http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-critics-warn-heralds-rise-killer-robots.html

    Now this was a while ago and the U.S. has jumped from the Gen. 5 F-22 over the Gen. 6 X-47B and we are BUILDING AND DEPLOYING the first in a long line and number of Gen. 7 Stealth Robotic Self Autonomous Fighter/Attack Drones that without the added weight of a pilot and all the life support that goes along with one these Gen. 7 Stealth Robotic Aircraft can fly faster...stay in air on station for up to 3 days....and can carry a huge amount of munitions and cannot be hacked as they are SELF AUTONOMOUS thus they are Robotic....and we are building tanker and Electronic Warfare and Air Supremacy versions of them.

    They are 60 YEARS ahead of anything Russia or China posses.

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    That is different because U.S. Energy Companies are NOT STATE OWNED!!!

    If they were by law all their profit would go back to the state and they would not be taxed because no one but the state could take that profit and THERE....is where I want you to understand what Putin is doing!!!

    THINK ABOUT THIS.....Since all Russian Energy Companies that export Oil, and Natural Gas were SEIZED by Putin and now are STATE OWNED......WHY WOULD THEY BE PAYING TAXES!!!!!?????????????

    If they are state owned then BY LAW....100% OF THEIR PROFITS MUST GO BACK TO THE STATE!!!

    So there is no taxes on state owned companies!!!

    This is how Putin is FOOLING THE RUSSIAN PEOPLE!!!

    Putin brags about all the Tax Revenue that now comes on time from these Russian State Owned Companies....BUT....if they are state owned THERE SHOULD BE NO TAX UPON THEIR PROFITS BECAUSE IT IS SUPPOSED TO ALL GO BACK TO THE PEOPLE!!!

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  10. AboveAlpha

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    What are you talking about???

    The Russian Economy is on the verge of collapse and 111 Russian's and Putin is one of them OWN OVER 35% OF TOTAL RUSSIAN WEALTH!!

    This is the greatest wealth disparity in HUMAN HISTORY and not even during the Middle Ages when Kings and Queens ruled did such a disparity of wealth exist!!

    You are fooling yourself!!

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  11. vis

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    You are too much optimistic saying that inhabitants in Russia live beter and better every year.
     
  12. Balancer

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    Yes. But I did not write anything about the F-22.

    The Chinese have a much more serious problem. They still can not even repeat the level of the engine AL-31F. Which was developed in 1973.

    While both Russia and China continue to at least try to make an aircraft even half as good as the F-22 the United States is currently building and already had tested and deployed the first of the Gen. 7 Stealth Robotic Self Autonomous Fighter/Attack Drones.

    We know about the aircraft. And, yes, of course, the future of local wars for unmanned systems. But it's - future.

    You want to say that Russia and China are now at the level of the United States of the 1950s? :)

    Or do you feel so confident that the Russian experimental unmanned strike aircraft will appear only in 2076?

    I have bad news for you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_Skat

    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Дозор-600

    https://lenta.ru/news/2016/03/31/uav/

    http://www.tvc.ru/news/show/id/17711

    It is only then that it became known. And secrecy in Russia in the development of weapons returned. Even here, among close to the Air Force, for example, was a surprise to the massive use of bombs with satellite-guided KAB-500S in Syria. Previously, it was officially announced that the bomb did not pay off and it did not do commercially. And in Syria, they suddenly began to use the dozens. Also, nobody in Russia did not expect such number of cruise missiles "Caliber", that they were used against ISIS.

    So that public information is not found no serious information on the development of Russian UAVs shock.

    Undoubtedly, Russia lags behind in the field of UAV development from the US. But behind that for 60 years? Nonsense :)

    More about five years ago, I would say that Russia lags behind years 15. But there were many pleasant surprises in this direction in recent years. In 1990s Russia, indeed, far behind the United States. But in the 2000s it was the accelerating move forward. The US, by contrast, slowed down the development of military technology. Therefore, the gap began to shrink.
     
  13. Balancer

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    As in the US things are with companies that only part of the shares are owned by the state?

    RAO UES state owns a 52% stake.
     
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    You know Vis as YOU know I have many Russian friends and they are all former KGB, GRU, Soviet Military..etc...and as they were my Cold War counterparts we all went through the same thing together and we all NEVER want to see another Cold War!!!

    But my friends are afraid to speak out as far as what Putin is doing.

    And they are the smart one's because those who do go public and speak out have a nasty habit of disappearing or ending up dead!

    The Russian Economy as it is currently going can only survive until spring of 2017 before another total collapse occurs like what happened in 2014.

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  15. Balancer

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    I've posted previously on this misconception. But, as I understand, you ignored me. I see no reason to repeat.

    You're wrong coarsely. Like many Western politicians who are trying to destroy the Putin's power without understanding the situation in Russia only strengthen his power and destroy the last remnants of opposition.
     
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    I cannot believe you are not getting this because I do not think you are stupid.

    If a company is 100% STATE OWNED...it does NOT pay taxes as 100% of that companies profits go back to the people.

    So WHY are these 100% State Owned Russian Energy Companies paying taxes???

    And why is no profit money from these companies going back to the Russian people???

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    I just live here :) And I see with my own eyes, as the year-on-year increases living standards of people around. Well, my own too.

    Of course, not all is well. A lot of negativity, especially in the field of bureaucracy and increase in the number of prohibitions. But the trend to changes in the standard of living steadily positive in general. Grow revenues. Reduced alcohol. There is a growing birth rate and life expectancy. The Russians again began to be proud of their country, which was not 25 years ...
     
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    Look....you really do not understand me or my motives.

    I spend YEARS in Russia providing security for U.S. Military Nuclear, Chemical and Biological Weapons Destruction Teams and the United States has spent over $300 BILLION purchasing all these old Soviet weapons and destroying them in an environmentally safe way.

    I speak Russian and I have many Russian friends and I love the Russian people...well most of them anyways....and the LAST THING I want to see is the Russian People having to go through more hardship and the U.S. does not want this either as we have spent a lot of money propping up the Russian Economy before Putin annexed the Crimea and it is IN THE BEST NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS OF THE UNITED STATES FOR RUSSIA TO HAVE A SOUND ECONOMY!!!

    But what is going on as far as how 111 Russian's own over 35% of all Russian wealth is a TRAVESTY.

    And all my old Russian friends feel the same way.

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    But don't you see???

    This is Putin''s BIG LIE!!!

    He is stoking the fire of Russian Nationalistic Patriotism for the sole purpose of keeping people's mind's off his theft of Energy Export Profits!!!

    If you are truly Russian it is your DUTY to investigate this and tell others!!!

    But be careful.

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  20. Balancer

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    Well, you stop repeat tales.

    Here, I have a daughter in prep school started to go to 6 years. Once out of school back and asked - "Is it true that our president - a murderer?"

    I wonder - "Where did you get this?". No, I know people who have and believe in Russia. no evidence there, but that's their opinion. But surprisingly, when a child says in 6 years.

    It turns out that such a daughter and her class teacher teaches literature.

    I'm disgusted. Political views - a private matter. But politics can not be washed brains of 6-year old children. He complained to the school principal. That said, they say, yes, indeed, it is not good to teach children the radical politics. And what do you think? Teacher teaches that all that and teaches children to opposition views.

    Here we have totalitarianism.

    In American schools teach young children because President Obama - a murderer?
     
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    I repeat the question. Or through electronic translator it is not clear? As the company pays taxes, if it belongs to the state is not 100%, and 52% in the US?

    The Russian state owns not 100% of shares in RAO UES of Russia, but 52% of the shares.
     
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    In U.S. Public Schools it is unlawful to teach religion, teach a specific political ideology although teaching politics and teaching kids the different political ideologies plural is fine.....and free speech takes precedence over everything for the kids but teachers cannot force their beliefs upon students.

    Now as far as Putin he has a huge approval rating in Russia but as I have stated....he is stealing the wealth of Russia from the people.

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    OK....then in that particular company as most now in Russia are 100% State Owned....48% of the companies profits cannot be taxed as 48% of the companies profits MUST BY LAW.....go to the Russian General Accounting Office and this money is used in the National Fiscal Budget.

    BUT....no such money has been paid to the Russian Government and THAT is what I am talking about!!

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    Brings you here rude English, does not distinguish between Russians ("Ruskiye" — Russians by nationality) and Russians ("Rossiyane" — Russian citizens). Russia - a very multi-ethnic state. And the "Russian Nationalistic Patriotism" in relation to Russian citizens (not Russian by nationality) sounds like an oxymoron. "Hot snow" or "Wet desert". In Russia grows patriotism today. And I do not see anything wrong with that. Americans are always proud of their patriotism, why it is bad for Russia?

    To this I answered above.

    Even if hypothetically, it turns out that Putin's entourage stole something, what alternative do you propose. Here, we overthrew Putin. Staged as Maidan Ukraine. What's next?
     
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    A teacher teaches 6-year old children in Russia, that President Putin - murderer. This is our totalitarianism.

    What do you think, where did President Putin such a rating? Option about the control of the media will not do. Today 80% of Russians get their information from the Internet. Including with foreign sites. Including of extremely anti-Russian Ukrainian sites :)

    I work as a web programmer in the company trading on the Forex market. All colleagues are constantly in contact with a foreign business. TV, as I do not look - just the Internet. Two years ago, more than half had a vibrant opposition views. During these two years, almost all become far more powerful patriotic than I am.

    Do you think that was the reason for this change? Remember what happened in the world in 2014 and continues to this day? :)
     

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