Moscow voices alarm as NATO Romanian missile defense base goes live

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  1. Fallen

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    As a new Romanian interceptor missile base prepares to go live Thursday, Moscow has slammed NATO’s expanding defense shield, calling it a threat to security, and a violation of a key international treaty.

    "The creation of a European and global missile defense shield has an adverse effect on strategic stability," Mikhail Ulyanov, head of the Russian foreign ministry's department for proliferation and arms control issues, said on Wednesday.

    NATO will formally declare its missile defense base in the remote location of Deveselu, Romania, operational on Thursday, bringing to fruition a plan to construct a shield in eastern Europe that was first announced by George W. Bush as far back as 2007.

    “Our direct interests, the interests of our national security are affected by the decision,” said Ulyanov.

    The Russian official said that not only was the missile defense aimed at neutralizing Russia’s offensive capability – an accusation the Pentagon has repeatedly rejected – but that Deveselu’s MK 41 launching systems it uses could be re-equipped with offensive cruise missiles.

    READ MORE: US missile shield in Europe poses no critical threat to Russia – Strategic Missile Forces commander

    Ulyanov said that Washington was acting in breach of the 1987 INF treaty, under which Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan signed their respective countries up to obligations “not to possess, produce, or flight-test a ground-launched cruise missile (GLCM) with a range capability of 500 km to 5,500 km, or to possess or produce launchers of such missiles.”

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    Not aimed at Russia’: State Dept. contradicts Pentagon on US missile defense expansion goals


    The US embassy in Moscow produced a counter-statement, condemning Moscow’s allegations as “unacceptable and irresponsible.”

    “The missile defense system is not aimed at Russia, or undermining its strategic potential. From the point of view of geography and physics, it is impossible to shoot down Russian inter-continental missiles from Romania or Poland,” said the document, penned by embassy spokesman William Stephens, and obtained by RIA news agency.

    Washington says that the eastern European missile defense segment is meant to thwart a potential threat from Iran, but in a separate statement on Wednesday evening, Russia’s foreign ministry said that worries that Tehran posed a threat to NATO were “unfounded.”

    The missile shield uses a network of radars that track potential threats in the atmosphere, before launching an interceptor missile from a stationary base, or a fleet.

    Simultaneously with Romania coming online, construction work is beginning on a complementary base in Poland, which will complete the eastern European segment of the shield in 2018.
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    is this it? [video=youtube;Qfn14PYjNsM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfn14PYjNsM[/video]
     
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    how many treaties have been violated by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and Crimea?
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this should make putin even madder whats obama trying to do push putins button to start ww#3? [video=youtube;gSKcUFheFTc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSKcUFheFTc[/video][​IMG]
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-georgia-exercises-idUSKCN0Y21RP
     
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    i sure hope so.

    let's get the party started!!!!!​
     
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    I thought the Russians always claimed that antimissile defense systems were largely useless.

    So why do they whine now?
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    no one cares about their whining.


    when they do barrel rolls around our aircraft, they lose the option of whining
     
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    yeah lets make sure you butt is on ground zero and the first to go.. so we wont have to see your lame post here any more:roflol:
     
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    None since it was a co. And even before that, in 2000s when US was first talking about puting missile shield in Poland. The relations were good before that if you recall. It was also US who pulled out of ABM treaty

    http://www.spacedaily.com/news/bmdo-01zzo.html

    It's funny Watching you guys trying to say how Russia violated the treaty when US initiated this by pulling out of ABM treaty
     
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    very similar to a burglar voicing opposition to putting a lock on a door. We've seen this reaction many times before from the USSR.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what the (*)(*)(*)(*) is a "co"???

    and no, it was a revolution against an oppressive regime.
     
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    They are not whining.


    READ MORE: US missile shield in Europe poses no critical threat to Russia – Strategic Missile Forces commander

    This is just showing the world how NATO is aggressively expanding and that Russia isn't happy. It's like when someone has a finger in your face while saying "I'm not touching you"

    You want to punch them in the face, but you keep your self from doing so. This is where russia dissatisfaction is. They are being provoked
     
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    The Neocons are out to rule the world. They are now basically giving Russia and China the choice of being vassals of the US dominated One world order, or war. They will keep turning up the heat until they either capitulate or attack. Or the crazy bastards may blow up a US city in a false flag operation and blame it on North Korea or Iran and vaporize the country to demonstrate what they can really do...
     
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    Nope. Kiev snipers were firing on both sides to incite a bloodbath. A bugged phone call has shown this. Obviously not everyone wanted to join the neo natzi militants Co, and so Kiev sent armored their Army to take the cities. One of those cities (Crimea), had a democratic vote and decided to join russia as to escape the nationalist who took control.

    Protesters Call For A New Ukraine Revolution
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...estors-call-for-a-new-ukraine-revolution.html


    Congress quietly killed their support. IMF pulled out. Russia is taking Ukraine to court for 3 billion. Ukraine defaults on debt. The current leader is even less popular then the previous. Look at the polls
     
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    a vote done while under foreign military occupation, is not a democratic vote
     
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    Good. Let Russia (*)(*)(*)(*) and moan like the little Pansy's they are.

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    You guys love to bring up that bugged phone call all the time but I got to ask, What did it prove exactly and how?
     
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    What if russia put a missile shield in Cuba? Or Canada?

    Perhaps your response will be very similar then.
     
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    who's stopping them?
     
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    But but but... Nazis. Lmfao.
     
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    That Kiev snipers incited a confrontation between opposing side leading the situation to escalate the way it did.
     
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    That's the end result that you think the call proved but HOW does it do that?
     
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    No one. Unlike US, Russia is not trying to aggressively encircle someone.so they have no reason to put a nuclear missile shield in Cuba.

    But I'm sure you would know our response if they did.

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    There was already a Russian military base in Crimea. So fail
     
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    who are the western hemisphere nations threatening missile attacks on Russia?

    NATO's missile shield is not aimed at Russia, and cannot stop Russia's nukes.

    its not intended to
     
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    Listen to the calleft and you will find out.
     
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    You act like I haven't. I have. And it's pretty clear that the call in no way shape or form proves anything remotely like what you just claimed. That is why I am asking YOU the DIRECT question, HOW?

    Iv a feeling you won't answer.
     

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