Hunt? self-defense? Mr. Orlando shooter killed 49 people and injured another 50 in a span of minutes... THIS is what the AR-15 is designed for - mass killings. Guns meant for hunting and guns that can kill in self-defense are perfectly fine and every responsible person has a right to own them but semi-automatic weapons designed for mass murder? Make no mistake about it, these weapons are designed to kill in numbers, these are not meant to kill a deer or shoot an intruder, they are designed for mass murder. Gun enthusiasts who defend the right to own such weapons claim everyone should be able to buy them but let's speak the truth, most people who buy these do it for the bad reasons - 1. drug dealers 2. gang members 3. people who just love the way it looks and shoots (entertainment) 4. mass murder (aurora, orlando, newton, san bernardino etc..) and the sandy hook killings were also at the hands of a similar semi-automatic weapon. These guns look like military weapons and cool looking but they really have no place in a country where people truly just want guns to hunt and self-defense. These weapons are bought because of the enjoyment, entertainment and for mass killings. I completely understand the need for all citizens to purchase guns but it should be limited to those guns not designed to kill the most amount of people in the least amount of time. I don't need an AR-15 to defend my house or hunt deer and neither should anyone else.
Let me clear this up for you in the first post. There is no definite purpose of anything. My tire iron is a useful tool, until I use it as a murder weapon. My shot of morphine helps ease the pain of my leg amputation, until I use it to poison someone (or get high if you think that's wrong for some reason). We should arrest these individuals who aggress against others, and leave peaceful owners alone. [hr][/hr] The AR-15 is a very capable hunting and target rifle. There's a reason it's the most used platform in the country: high reliability, lots of parts, cheap, powerful, and a quick cartridge. Stop attacking gun owners for the crimes of others. We are not to blame. Million upon millions of us simply go about our lives in peace: hunting, shooting targets, having fun shooting melons, whatever. Rather than feel grief and anger at the perpetrator, you and the conservatives attack gun owners and Muslims respectively. You should be ashamed of yourselves, both sides.
You are bringing up way too much sense. The liberals are afraid of big black things and they don't know how to control the AR-15. Food stamps and free housing don't work for guns, maybe have a law that makes the AR-15 pink will sooth their irrational fears.
The long gun used by the Islamo-terrorist in Orlando was not an AR-15. It was a Sig Sauer MCX Carbine...Not even an AR platform. Amazing how the gun grabbers want to run off at the mouth about the AR-15 soon as someone gets shot with a rifle. These are the same dopes that thing the AR stands for assault rifle. You'd think at least a few of them would educate themselves.
Why no whining about the 9mm handgun he used? I will tell you why, because the AR-15 is the cause celeb of the gun grabbers and the uninformed eat it up because of what they see on TV.
Lots of available ammunition 5.56mm. The ability to customize is almost limitless Light weight and manageable recoil. It's a good weapon for a survivalist, if the (*)(*)(*)(*) ever hits the proverbial fan.
The design of the AR platform is one of the best, and if you do not like buffer springs and gas tubes, the AR-180 is available, I Iike how the AR rifle is available in so many calibers.
The AR is suitable for any of the traditionally lawful purposes one might have for a firearm, and is in common use for same. The idea that the purpose of the AR15 is to commit mass murder, to kill as many people as possible in a short period if time, is mindless nonsense put forth by people who know nothing about guns.
This gun is horrible for close quarter combat because of its size, and its semi automatic meaning not any more deadly then a Glock. I would wager an Uzi or any other sub-machine gun would be far more deadly in a packed club. But the OP is obviously an ignorant constitution hating individual to whom logic and weapons knowledge is a foreign concept.
Not only that but the op spouts off about semi automatics as killing machines. Umm what is a handgun semi auto or auto? At least they stopped using "clips" the term they heard in their favorite leftist actors gun glory movies. Facepalm.
Very true !!!! Moar mindless people are killed by having mindlessly casual sex and acquiring a fatal STD than are killed by guns, yet there is no push by mindless Liberals to license or test mindless people, prior to having mindless sex, for a mindless STD.
As I said to my wife yesterday... Anti-gun loons don't care about what's real and what's not -- they just want to make is as hard as they can for the law abiding to buy/have guns, and they don't care how much they have to lie about it, to themselves and others, to do it. It's really that simple.
Simple reality dictates that the AR-15 is not a good hunting rifle as if used as intended it would make the meat mostly inedible. There are far more capable weapons that are used for this purpose. This weapon is a sporting rifle and though fun to shoot does not require the skill or have the precision required for sharpshooting. Most of the reaction seen is either anger at what it is often used for or reactionary fear that rights to own such a thing are threatened. I would venture to guess that very few members here have even fired one, let alone own one. There is virtually no possibility the assault rifle ban will be brought back.
You have no idea what you're talking about. 2.23/5.56 is a varmint round, suitable for,. well, varmints and small game. Every major gun manufacturer sells hunting rifles chambered for .223/5.56 - if you;re right, why do you suppose that is? I know... you're wrong. You have no idea whatsoever if this is true. Can you regularly hit the bull of an LR-1 target at 1000yds with iron slights on an AR15? I can. You have no clue. Do yourself a favor and don't post on things you know nothing about.
The .223, while a deadly round, is significantly inferior to .308s, 30-06s etc. Even if using a 1920s design 45 acp "Tommy Gun" with 50 rd canister would have been more deadly. 35 people were killed via 2 handguns. Candidly, I believe most died by bleeding out as the police spent 3 hours worrying about their own safety, than were outright killed by a .223. A .223 is basically a high velocity .22. The only thing smaller is the rare .15 which is basically a high powered bb gun with pointed bullet. Imagine if instead he had a Saiga 12 shotgun with AA and a 30 shell canister or a .308 instead of a .223? It would take nothing to extend a 10 round magazine to a 30 round magazine. Just a trip to Home Depot. Worse, we better keep hoping they use .223s rather than bombs. If he had known what he was doing he could have killed everyone inside in 1 second. Just crash a wall with a fast vehicle and a low-skill bomb and a couple big gasoline cans. We are lucky these lone wolf ISIS fighters aren't smart. As long as they do only use .223s the number of murdered will be limited and most shot will survive - unless the police let them bleed for hours. SWAT DOES have full body armor to stop .223s. It is a whole different situation (and killed to wounded ratio) if instead it is an M1 or M1A with black tip or other armor piercing ammo. One shot could kill 2,3,4 people and the police would have a whole different situation in regards to their body armor. Simply, the .223 is about the least, not the worst, a mass murderer could use.
Question....what is it "intended" for? A gun is a tool and like many tools can be used in many different ways. I'm also having issues with the "inedible" part. What do you think an AR-15 shoots....grenades? As far as the "capability for hunting", not really. The AR-15 platform is extremely modular which means it can be customize to suit the purpose, whether that's hunting varmints, deer, hogs, squirrel basically whatever you want. Many states have hunting laws that restrict the magazine size so you can buy magazines for an AR-15 that only hold 5 cartridges. The "precision" much like the hunting can be customized and can be very accurate. I would love to own an AR-15 with additional modification parts. Then I would need 1 hunting rifle and 1 shotgun (birds) and could hunt anything in the US. Are there guns made that are better for all of the above applications yes. The AR-15 platform is a "Jack of all traits master of none", but it does a really good job in all.
That is a very broad brush you are painting with resulting in very inaccurate statements verging on falsehoods. The AR is a very good hunting firearm and comes in many calibers, and no, it will not make the meat mostly inedible. The .300 Blackout is even better suited for hunting than the ancient and venerable .30-30 that has taken moar Deer than other calibers. You need the same amount of skill to shoot an AR rifle as any other rifle, and with the right barrel, you can take P-Dogs at incredible ranges, and P-Dog hunting requires great skill & accuracy. As far as the Anti Gun people go, they do not care about facts, as it suits them, they complain about cheap guns or Saturday Night Specials, then complain about Sniper Rifles, bottom line, they want to ban guns, all guns.
You really don't understand much about rifles and ammos. The .223 is such a small round some states won't even allow it for deer hunting as it is too low a fast kill likelihood. Often the deer would only be wounded, but may eventually bleed out. So you understand, it is just an extremely fast pointed 22 bullet.
And the 5.56 NATO or .223 is only one caliber the AR is chambered for, only a small fraction of what is currently available today.
The AR15 -is- chambered for a number of calibers, though I suspect .223/5.56 is still the most common. I don't think of the AR10/SR25 chassis as an AR15.
