Trump concedes Obama was born in the U.S.

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  1. TeaAddict

    TeaAddict Active Member

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    Did you read the post you quoted, or the previous ones? I'll summarize

    Me and Tiz were discussing whether the birther movement was racist or not, and my argument is that it has nothing to do with race, considering he attacked Cruz for having been born in Canada.


    lol obviously it does to some people, who rank Trump as a modern Hitler for thinking Obama was born somewhere else.

    Ask a BLM activist whether it "matters" and see what response you get.
     
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    But Cruz really was born in Canada!
     
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    Did the Carson supporters who shot him up to second place in the polls in November think he would never hold a prominent position?

    What about prominent black republican's like Condoleezza Rice, who remain popular among conservatives?

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    I know that...

    And Trump thought Obama really was born in Kenya... but that's racist, apparently.
     
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    Goodness, WHEN did Trump do this???
     
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    Its interesting how you and Hillary think people are irredeemable because they disagree with you.

    The very definition of bigotry.
     
  6. Tiz

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    When he spat in the face of histrory and our constitution and asked to see the papers Obama had already shown years earlier.

    When he said, “What do you have to lose?”
     
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    Sure. The same way the most hardcore Nazis were irredeemable. I don't see any daylight between Hitler and his supporters, circa 1933, and Trump and his supporters today. And neither should you.
     
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    OK, and I see no daylight between socialist Stalin and his supporters and socialist Hillary and her supporters...

    See how ridiculous this sounds??

    I do not want to be rude but I will be frank with you: The crimes against humanity that the Nazis committed were among the worst in human history. Your view is flawed if you can, honestly and with a straight face, compare Hitler, is actions, and his supporters, to Trump, his actions, and his supporters.

    Talk about "spitting in the face of history".
     
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    it was bet on by the prejudiced democrats and raised by the prejudiced republicans.

    its settled now.
     
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    [​IMG]

    It's a silly cartoon.

    Unfortunately, its also accurate.
     
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    I see how ridiculous your claim is, yes.

    It is quite plain that Trump is a populist racist demagogue. He rose to political power by reacting to positive changes in his poll numbers as he was demanding that the American born black president show his papers, who was validated as a natural born citizen years before. This charade led to his political influence skyrocketing as he tuned his demagoguery with poll testing by adding bogus demands that played to the fears of Obama’s middle name, which the polls indicated were quite prevalent.

    This is what made Trump the politician.

    And everybody in the whole world knows it—even the deplorable deniers who support him.
     
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    Good.

    But you see a difference between that and comparing a genocidal monster like Adolf Hitler to Trump?
     
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    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Clinton Foundation took many donations from foreign Governments, so would 995's logic apply to Clinton too?
     
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    Yet your claim is Clinton supports are the same as Stalin's. A man who murdered millions out of fear, Clinton has not killed anyone, at the same time, you charge others with false associations.
     
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    no....

    I was making a point that it is ridiculous to compare genocidal dictators to either one of these candidates.

    Of course I don't think Clinton is the same as Stalin.

    Hence my statement "See how ridiculous this sounds"...
     
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    thanks for clearing it up.
     
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    Long before Trump ran for president, I ranked his propensity to be a monstrous dictator (which constitute a shocking percentage of leaders in human history) somewhere between Putin and Saddam Hussein. It shouldn't be that shocking that the United States had a person with the same kind of traits that exist in too many leaders of countries to list. Even people who know very little history could pop off the names of ten or more brutal dictators in twenty seconds.

    Trump, more than anyone who has ran for president in the United States, BY FAR, has a remarkable number of traits in common with people like Hitler and Stalin and Hussein and Mussolini and Putin and Idi Amin and ...

    Indeed, Trump said out loud he wouldn't hesitate to torture not only people he thinks are terrorists, but their FAMILIES too.

    That is pretty alarming stuff.
     
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    Yea sorry about the misunderstanding! I should have been clearer.

    I don't think Clinton is as bad as Stalin, nor are her supporters "irredeemable". I do not see people as evil simply because I don't agree with them.
     
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    Clearly you are not following the story I know.

    I did not mention Penn. I mentioned Philip Berg, a party official who sued Obama. Why sue Obama?

    Berg a state power in the Democrat circles in PA alleged Obama could not legally run to be president since he was born in Kenya.

    He took it up to the Supreme court.

    Trump did not start this.

    Trump has made a major error. He says it was started by Hillary and that just is wrong. She did not support such a claim.
    He should have simply dropped it at Obama is an American.
     
  20. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Question to you.

    Suppose I only steal money from the rich.

    Since they have great wealth and staggering incomes, it can't hurt them, correct?
    Suppose I take their money and blow up cities. Is that good or evil?

    Take a good hard look at my former party's aims. They aim to target a class of humans in this country to force them to pick up all the bills. If they can, they will exclude all but the rich and take what they earned and use it as if it belongs to them.

    Democrats are not honest.
     
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    The legs you have to stand on are zero.
    Now what?
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Look no further than Obama for that dictator.
     
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    His closed door fundraiser where he smarted off with as Unamerican comment
    as it gets.Mocking Americans as " It's not surprising,then,they cling to guns
    or religion. "
    Guns and religion are as American as Mom,Baseball and apple pie.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yer not paying attention to my posts.Of course Hillary was among the first
    birthers.It was her campaign who allowed those like Jonathan Turley to
    stir up controvery over John McCain's status as a " natural born citizen " since
    he was born Outside the United States.Both Hillary and Obama co-sponsored a bill
    by Clair McCaskill and Patrick Leahy in the senate to make allowance for
    McCain with a resolution.McCain was the one who was Birther'd FIRST.
    Senate resolution 511. Got it now.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I apologize since It has been maybe weeks since I read any of your posts.

    What I am talking of is one Philip Berg. Berg was a powerful Democrat who had high position in the PA democratic party. HE adored Hillary and sued Obama. He took all the way to the Supreme Court.

    Trump should have decent people he can rely on to give him accurate information.

    But trust me, if Hillary can't get disqualified over secret classified data, there is no way Trump is disqualified because he never believed Obama. Democrats act like it is a crime to not believe Obama.
     

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